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Interesting how C5 wrote up the episode:

 

In the wee hours of last night, coconut-fan and self-described eccentric, Paula came over a little unwell. But don't get too upset. After receiving advice from the Big Brother doctor, the decision was taken to move our former supermodel from the dank CBB basement to the glorious world above. She is a new luxury housemate. It's a real rags to riches story!

On leaving their bedroom, the original ground-level housemates met the new recruit with squeals of surprise.

"I can’t believe you’re here. It’s brilliant!" exclaimed Rylan

"Yeah, cool," replied Paula in a monotone that suggests she hasn’t forgotten the moment last night that he, together with partner-in-crime, Frankiechose her over Tricia to be sent down.

Rylan has been sitting with Paula in the garden ever since, listening to her colourful conversation and clearly hoping to build bridges after their shaky start.

Will Paula forgive and forget? You better stay tuned to the website to find out.

FM
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:

As far as I remember from my counselling... a 'full blown' panic attack wouldn't last for three hours straight.   Your body is physically incapable of maintaining that level of arousal (no, not that kind smutheads) for so long.    If she was in a state for three hours, she was either faking it or milking it imo.    If (and that's a big if - it was a panic attack and it was her first - she may have been upset for three hours, but she wouldn't be 'screaming and vomiting' as I've read for that long)    The fact that the website is talking about her move to the luxury house as a 'rags to riches' story makes me even more convinced it's all fake - either by her or by them.

kaffy one of my worst bouts of panic attacks lasted 3 days solid with absolute no relief from anything. . it was wave after wave of panic and anxiety and no down time at all.. it was the worst time ever..  nothing had any affect on it at all.. eventually it died out of it's own accord but I had the worst adrenaline hangover ever after that one and was knocked out for a week..  more recently I have ones that last all day with no relief either and my body so tensed up and rigid it is impossible to do anything til it wears off. . so as I said before they are all different 

 

I steer clear of reading/believing Fives reports or red tops or gossip rags cos they exaggerate everything and make something out of nothing, if not downright lie all the time.. so I have no idea if she is faking or not nor do I give a dam if she was, but I do know anything is possible in panic attack world so I can speak from experience there having gone thru quite a few different types of attacks myself since they started almost 35 yrs ago   

Mount Olympus *Olly*

Jeeze Olly - that's rough.      I was told that your body can't handle the 'extreme' panic for more than 10 minutes without passing out,- but I know what you mean about waves of it  (32 years and counting for me, but thankfully not as severe as yours)     that's how I handle mine - ride out the extreme and know it's going to end and I can 'talk myself down' usually now.  I feel for you if you suffer like that.  I'll shut up about Paula then. 

Kaffs

yeah those ones I get are pretty rough.. and are always lingering under the surface day in day out, hence the agoraphobia symptom I got on top.. 

 

funnily enough I've never passed out nor felt like I was having a heart attack with any of my anxiety attacks. . so already mine differ from how the 'experts' describe what they are supposed to be like. . I find breathing or catching my breath is one of my main problems and an inability to concentrate or stay still as it makes me fidgety ...  plus the feelings of fear and the loose bowels that brings with it too..   and also sometimes a weird feeling of over alertness/clarity where noise and light  is too bright or too loud or too clear.. all very nice stuff  

Mount Olympus *Olly*
Originally Posted by Mount Olympus *Olly*:

yeah those ones I get are pretty rough.. and are always lingering under the surface day in day out, hence the agoraphobia symptom I got on top.. 

 

funnily enough I've never passed out nor felt like I was having a heart attack with any of my anxiety attacks. . so already mine differ from how the 'experts' describe what they are supposed to be like. . I find breathing or catching my breath is one of my main problems and an inability to concentrate or stay still as it makes me fidgety ...  plus the feelings of fear and the loose bowels that brings with it too..   and also sometimes a weird feeling of over alertness/clarity where noise and light  is too bright or too loud or too clear.. all very nice stuff  

yep - I can't do high streets or busy shops either - thankfully I can still work though and bizarrely enough, managed to commute to Manchester for four years (god bless my divorce)  I developed a 'sod it nobody knows me' attitude and being 'anonymous' really helped.   Suddenly the thought  that I'd nobody to embarrass but me if chucked someone out of the way to get out of a place calmed me enough not to have to do it (in a - nutshell.... I'm sure we could chat all day about it)  It's about 'being in control' for me - I've never felt like I was dying or having a heart attack either funnily enough - just that i was about to become a gibbering wreck, rocking in the corner..

Kaffs

We may never find out all that happened that night or how long it went on for but I didn't think she was faking. If BB had been given any info from the doctor that led them to believe she was pretending illness BB would have made her go back to the basement. Even if the Doc or BB were unsure of the cause they would have to err on the side of her well being to protect themselves.

Yellow Rose
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:

We may never find out all that happened that night or how long it went on for but I didn't think she was faking. If BB had been given any info from the doctor that led them to believe she was pretending illness BB would have made her go back to the basement. Even if the Doc or BB were unsure of the cause they would have to err on the side of her well being to protect themselves.

Or she may have been taken to the DR and told them if she didn't get moved she'd walk.....

 

.. and assuming the believed she was ill - was it looking after her to let her sleep on a sofa with nobody to even check on her?  Bearing in mind she'd allegedly been screaming and vomitting for three hours....

Kaffs
Last edited by Kaffs
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:

We may never find out all that happened that night or how long it went on for but I didn't think she was faking. If BB had been given any info from the doctor that led them to believe she was pretending illness BB would have made her go back to the basement. Even if the Doc or BB were unsure of the cause they would have to err on the side of her well being to protect themselves.

Or she may have been taken to the DR and told them if she didn't get moved she'd walk.....

 

.. and assuming the believed she was ill - was it looking after her to let her sleep on a sofa with nobody to even check on her?  Bearing in mind she'd allegedly been screaming and vomitting for three hours....

As it was in the early hours they may not have wanted the other hm's woken up by her going into the bedroom. They have a lot of cameras in the house so I'm sure they would have monitered her, when her symptons started the phone in the basement rang almost instantly

Yellow Rose
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:

We may never find out all that happened that night or how long it went on for but I didn't think she was faking. If BB had been given any info from the doctor that led them to believe she was pretending illness BB would have made her go back to the basement. Even if the Doc or BB were unsure of the cause they would have to err on the side of her well being to protect themselves.

Or she may have been taken to the DR and told them if she didn't get moved she'd walk.....

 

.. and assuming the believed she was ill - was it looking after her to let her sleep on a sofa with nobody to even check on her?  Bearing in mind she'd allegedly been screaming and vomitting for three hours....

As it was in the early hours they may not have wanted the other hm's woken up by her going into the bedroom. They have a lot of cameras in the house so I'm sure they would have monitered her, when her symptons started the phone in the basement rang almost instantly

We don't know that - we only know they showed the two things together in the edit.   I still say they'd not leave her on a sofa if she was ill = it's BB, so what if someone gets woken up in the night to put her to bedl  Hardly a problem.     I guess I just dont' believe there's much in there that's not scripted/directed now.

Kaffs
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:

We may never find out all that happened that night or how long it went on for but I didn't think she was faking. If BB had been given any info from the doctor that led them to believe she was pretending illness BB would have made her go back to the basement. Even if the Doc or BB were unsure of the cause they would have to err on the side of her well being to protect themselves.

Or she may have been taken to the DR and told them if she didn't get moved she'd walk.....

 

.. and assuming the believed she was ill - was it looking after her to let her sleep on a sofa with nobody to even check on her?  Bearing in mind she'd allegedly been screaming and vomitting for three hours....

As it was in the early hours they may not have wanted the other hm's woken up by her going into the bedroom. They have a lot of cameras in the house so I'm sure they would have monitered her, when her symptons started the phone in the basement rang almost instantly

We don't know that - we only know they showed the two things together in the edit.   I still say they'd not leave her on a sofa if she was ill = it's BB, so what if someone gets woken up in the night to put her to bedl  Hardly a problem.     I guess I just dont' believe there's much in there that's not scripted/directed now.

True we don't know that but despite many things about BB that are annoying it's hard to believe they wouldn't act promptly when an hm is suddenly taken ill.

Yellow Rose

I don't really understand why all the conspiracy stuff TBH. Maybe I'm gullible but .................as I see it - it's well known that she is a very emotionally fragile individual (she's failed the psyche test a number of times)- is it really beyond the realms of possibility to think that the discomfort and unknowness of the basement bought on a panic attack ?

 

She thought she was going into a comfortable house where she would be able to cope.  I guess we all see it different but - it looked genuine to me and I kind of understand why she was stress. It was unexpected and unpleasant - it bought on anxiety.

 

I guess it's something we are all getting better at. Agreeing to disagree 

Soozy Woo
Originally Posted by Pengy:

I'm personally convinced she was faking it and I also believe she threatened to walk if she wasn't allowed into the main house - none of this she was ill - I think BB are using the 'doctor said it' as an excuse as to why she's up there 

I think I agree Pengy... plus like Kaffy I think it is basically scripted these days!

Baz
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:

I don't really understand why all the conspiracy stuff TBH. Maybe I'm gullible but .................as I see it - it's well known that she is a very emotionally fragile individual (she's failed the psyche test a number of times)- is it really beyond the realms of possibility to think that the discomfort and unknowness of the basement bought on a panic attack ?

 

She thought she was going into a comfortable house where she would be able to cope.  I guess we all see it different but - it looked genuine to me and I kind of understand why she was stress. It was unexpected and unpleasant - it bought on anxiety.

 

I guess it's something we are all getting better at. Agreeing to disagree 

I think this is the point Soozy - she thought she would be going into a luxurious house and it turned out not to be. 

 

To be fair, I do agree she has problems and should never have entered the house, but having been denied 3 times by psychologists in the past she was still determined enough to go in this time.  She must know the show well enough to understand what that involves.  However bad C5 are for letting her in, it seems she was desperate to appear.  I personally don't enjoy seeing sick people break down and that's what she's heading for if she really is as ill as is being said

 

I think the sooner she's evicted, the better it will be for her  

FM
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by Supes:

I also think it unlikely that if she was considered to be genuinely ill that they would have put her on the sofa to sleep, to be 'found' by the other hms the next morning.

Exactly.    I think even C5 would have got her a bed and got one of the 'sensible' ones to keep an eye on her.

 

Nor do I think she'd have greeted them with a big smile and 'you can't keep a good one out' or whatever it was she said.     She'd have been shell shocked and shakey

And therefore presumably not immediately asking for coffee?

FM
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by Supes:

I also think it unlikely that if she was considered to be genuinely ill that they would have put her on the sofa to sleep, to be 'found' by the other hms the next morning.

Exactly.    I think even C5 would have got her a bed and got one of the 'sensible' ones to keep an eye on her.

 

Nor do I think she'd have greeted them with a big smile and 'you can't keep a good one out' or whatever it was she said.     She'd have been shell shocked and shakey

And therefore presumably not immediately asking for coffee?

  pump some caffeine in there - great for settling your nerves!     

Kaffs
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by Supes:

I also think it unlikely that if she was considered to be genuinely ill that they would have put her on the sofa to sleep, to be 'found' by the other hms the next morning.

Exactly.    I think even C5 would have got her a bed and got one of the 'sensible' ones to keep an eye on her.

 

Nor do I think she'd have greeted them with a big smile and 'you can't keep a good one out' or whatever it was she said.     She'd have been shell shocked and shakey

And therefore presumably not immediately asking for coffee?

Would BB expect a sleeping hm to wake up, and stay awake to keep an eye on her till morning, just can't see that myself as BB have staff to monitor the hm's. I'm seeing lots of assumptions but still no facts as they've not been released

Yellow Rose
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:

I think we're on our own on this one YR.

That's for sure Sooz as neither side is understood by the other it's stalemate lol

for sure - we all see it from a personal perspective.  Olly sees it from her experience and thinks it looks real - I see it from mine and know if I had a panic attack I'd immediately want to go to what I feel is a 'safe' place - which would be to hell out of the BB house.   

Kaffs
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:

I think we're on our own on this one YR.

That's for sure Sooz as neither side is understood by the other it's stalemate lol

I'm still open to the possibility that it was a genuine panic attack, however, on balance and on the little evidence we do have, think it's unlikely, or, at the v least, it was exaggerated. 

FM
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:

I think we're on our own on this one YR.

That's for sure Sooz as neither side is understood by the other it's stalemate lol

for sure - we all see it from a personal perspective.  Olly sees it from her experience and thinks it looks real - I see it from mine and know if I had a panic attack I'd immediately want to go to what I feel is a 'safe' place - which would be to hell out of the BB house.   

I've no idea whether it was a panic attack or some other condition that caused the symptoms lol. None of my comments are aimed personally at anyone, just a different point of view over some things

Yellow Rose
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:

I think we're on our own on this one YR.

That's for sure Sooz as neither side is understood by the other it's stalemate lol

gerrrin the norty corner you pair >>>>>>>> 

Have we been put on the naughty chair

yes and there'll be no supper until you see the error of your ways 

FM
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:

I think we're on our own on this one YR.

That's for sure Sooz as neither side is understood by the other it's stalemate lol

I'm still open to the possibility that it was a genuine panic attack, however, on balance and on the little evidence we do have, think it's unlikely, or, at the v least, it was exaggerated. 

I'm with you on that Supes.  I doubt it was a 'genuine' panic attack but you are right about us having very little evidence so I suppose we should cut her some slack ......................... except I still believe she hyped it to the hilt 

 

I've had panic attacks that were so bad I was convinced I was having a heart attack and it took days to recover from but I do accept they can be in varying degrees 

FM
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:

I think we're on our own on this one YR.

That's for sure Sooz as neither side is understood by the other it's stalemate lol

for sure - we all see it from a personal perspective.  Olly sees it from her experience and thinks it looks real - I see it from mine and know if I had a panic attack I'd immediately want to go to what I feel is a 'safe' place - which would be to hell out of the BB house.   

I've no idea whether it was a panic attack or some other condition that caused the symptoms lol. None of my comments are aimed personally at anyone, just a different point of view over some things

I know that - it's all part of the BB experience - debating with folks. 

Kaffs
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:

I think we're on our own on this one YR.

That's for sure Sooz as neither side is understood by the other it's stalemate lol

gerrrin the norty corner you pair >>>>>>>> 

Have we been put on the naughty chair

yes and there'll be no supper until you see the error of your ways 

If the supper is the rubbish food dumped into the basement I wouldn't eat it anyway

Yellow Rose
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:

I think we're on our own on this one YR.

That's for sure Sooz as neither side is understood by the other it's stalemate lol

gerrrin the norty corner you pair >>>>>>>> 

Have we been put on the naughty chair

yes and there'll be no supper until you see the error of your ways 

If the supper is the rubbish food dumped into the basement I wouldn't eat it anyway

 can't tempt you with day old noodles? 

FM
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:

I think we're on our own on this one YR.

That's for sure Sooz as neither side is understood by the other it's stalemate lol

for sure - we all see it from a personal perspective.  Olly sees it from her experience and thinks it looks real - I see it from mine and know if I had a panic attack I'd immediately want to go to what I feel is a 'safe' place - which would be to hell out of the BB house.   

I've no idea whether it was a panic attack or some other condition that caused the symptoms lol. None of my comments are aimed personally at anyone, just a different point of view over some things

I know that - it's all part of the BB experience - debating with folks. 

  These reality shows bring out all kinds of different opinions so no way will everyone agree all the time lol, it wouldn't be a normal Forum if that ever happened

Yellow Rose

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