Okay. I haven't read any more of this thread yet but I need to say this.

I've been thinking about this for two days since I posted and have come to the conclusion that the uneasy feeling in my stomach is because I did behave like a bit of a twunt. I was wrong to call pretty_p childish names and for that I apologise. Believe it or not, it's very unlike me to be abusive like that, I've always been able to argue my point of view without resorting to name calling. So, apologies offered.

I don't regret my emotional response however which is that her point of view is heartless in the extreme and that's putting it nicely.

So that's it, I behaved badly but it came from a heartfelt place.

Right, now to read.

Okay. I'm a bit alarmed at the idea that I was 'bragging', not sure where that came from!

As for the whole clique thing, as Saz points out, I haven't been here for a long time, I couldn't tell you who is supposedly in the latest clique and have no idea whatsoever about pretty_p 'always being picked on'. I guess if you post controversial stuff then you'll get noticed but other than that I can say for sure that the only person I am in regular contact with who also posts on here is sponge and we have never in our lives discussed pretty_p's posts or character - we're too busy doing that whole weird stuff called life!

So that's it.

I have often been guilty of the same thing, When you feel passionately about something, emotion gets in the way and the keyboard is all too easy to vent your rage on..
It is all part of being human and it takes a lot of guts to come back and apologise...
It also says a lot about the sort of person you are as well

I think it is a little unfair to say I am heartless - I do not and never have wished this couple any harm whilst at the hands of these criminals all I am saying is that I do not feel sympathy for them.  IMO they were completely irresponsible in going out there and they not only put their own lives at risks but also the lives of others.  Their behaviour has cost somebody a lot of money and allowed these criminals to win which has also possibly put more people in danger - let's face it we can't afford to pay for the release of all the others they have captured (and I believe there are still a number of people being held).  As far as I am concerned their behaviour was utterly irresponsible and yes they paid a high price for that and whilst I am not saying they deserved what happened to them they have to accept some of the responsibility and IMO owe a lot of people an apology.

Thanks Issy, I know tis only t'interweb but I felt I needed to do the right thing in order to make peace with myself.

And pretty_p, nice try honey but once burned and all that, go cast your net elsewhere, I'm not for catching today.

I don't get why it's so bad to post controversial topics. It gets a debate going and because everyone has their own opinion and can get quite passionate about it the result can be a variety of opinions which show the variety of people we have on here. If Pretty P or anyone else annoys people as much as it appears then be the bigger person and ignore her/them. So many have said how they know she's a WUM but yet everyone responds to her. I think some enjoy being annoyed at her and expressing it on here. There will always be someone who the rest of the forum unite against and it just happens to be her now. How many times has it been said on here that there is nothing to get your teeth into (so to speak)? Ask and you get.......get and you moan....go figure 

Skive 

You said what you said coz you felt like it at the time. 

Hi cags, hope you're well. xxx

I can honestly say I haven't joined in on any uniting against anyone, I've been MIA for ages. I just read this one thread because it's sponge's and lost my rag. I can see there is some history here that I know nothing of but my bad behaviour was all my own I'm afraid.

I think we should have more Skive on this forum

I'm ok thanks. Ups and downs but don't we all? 

I didn't mean you with the uniting thing. I know you haven't been around. 

I hope you're well too? Come update us over there

Like you I just typed what I felt at that moment, This place does it to you sometimes.....I apologise if my comment upset you.....

Hey Saz Huge hugs and all that slushy stuff. xxx

Cags, I know you didn't mean me, all this apologising has made me go all over-sensitive!

I'll pop over soon for sure, not much to report tho, working hard but happy which is fine by me. Hope your downs have been fewer than your ups.

No way! I'd be going all pot, kettle and black if I said otherwise. A right back atcha. x

Lovely to see you skive...long time

Apologies for attempting adult conversation - can't really criticise me and then behave like that can you!!

You too. Aw I remember now why I keep coming back to this place, so many lovely people. xxx

Up there ^  somewhere I said sorry and I really meant it.

Hope life is good with you too, I'm in a huggy mood so brace yourself.

I can't believe you haven't  posted in the other I can't believe thread    

pretty p........have you not noticed skive's apology?.....or are you just completely ignoring it cos it suits you?

Look up the word humility ..... there's a good sort.

i read that as humidity........i was think eh?!!!...........

Well I'm sorry but if you really meant it you wouldn't react the way you did when I attempted conversation with you.  In reality what you said yesterday was utterly disgusting yet I said nothing and when you apologised attempted to let it pass however why you couldn't do the same is a mystery.  I am not trying to cause a row here - in fact after this post I am not going to say another word on it - however I feel the point needs making FGS I am made out to be a total villain on here yet when I try and make sensible conversation you come back at me with that - not really very nice is it??  Don't accuse me of things you are guilty of yourself.  Like I say I am not going to mention it again now so just be aware that if you or anyone else does start questioning me about it I will not respond - I will respond to points about the topic of the thread but that is all.

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh dear baby cheesebus..............

Has anyone got any Xanax?

Have you looked that word up yet?

That could work... in a sweaty sort of way.

Are the Chandler's home yet?  

Hey missus! I'm dispensing hugs all over the place tonight so you'd better have one too.

As this is your thread we can talk about whatever we like can't we?

Those two clowns have only themselves to blame for being kidnapped, they were told by friends and family before they left for their bizarre holiday destination that it was dangerous there and that they shouldn't go, but no, they had to be bloody minded and go there anyway.


Silly old fools.


If one penny was spent by our govenment on getting them released then i think they should pay the money back.

back atcha matey xxx........

oooooooooooo how about that i want to reach into my telly box and smack gillian mckeith in da teef??.............man up woman and get a top set.........

I've already said I know nothing of any previous history, I've been away awhile.

I apologise (again) if my response to you today could be percieved as flippant, not my intention. I wish you all the best, have another hug.

I do have to agree with that - although as far as I am aware the British Government didn't contribute (though don't quote me on that).  I think I remember hearing that the Somali Government may have contributed in some way though again I'm not 100% certain of that.

..."Deck the halls with boughs of holly" .....





Ooops wrong thread

Whoever paied the money, it shouldn't have been paid by any government,  the family should have paid it themselves.

That made me snort!

As for Gillian McTeeth - my god the woman is soooooooooooooo annoying it's genius! Love it, keep her in I say!

Oh yeah I completely agree with you.  What gets me though is why hasn't this money been raised for any of the others still being held - why are these two so different to all of those others who equally have families and lives to live.

Are the others being held British? I could go google it but can't be bothered 

That will of course have the knock on effect of restricting holidays in the killing zone to those with cash reserves.  Hardly seems fair.  I was just about to pull the trigger on a spring break in Sudan. 

TBH I don't know - it was just something on this thread the other day that said others were still being held which alerted me to the fact.

It's mostly crews on commercial tankers, isn't it?
And ransoms are usually paid by the companies involved.


I did hear that the Somali community in Britain raised a fair amount of money for the ransom, and certain Somali individuals went back there to try to negotiate their release.