If he gets convicted, there might be an appeal.
i think he'll walk out of court 
I'm beginning to think this is what's going to happen 
very sad if he does, the barsteward
If he gets convicted, there might be an appeal.
i think he'll walk out of court
I'm beginning to think this is what's going to happen
Why?
#oscartrial Roux: We are well within the time frame'. Judge says;"I hope so because I have other duties'
If he gets convicted, there might be an appeal.
i think he'll walk out of court
I'm beginning to think this is what's going to happen
Why?
not 100% convinced that the State has done enough for murder. As for CH he could get away with a hefty fine and walk
Right, I have half an hour to do some housework and prep tonight's dinner. Back soon.
If he gets convicted, there might be an appeal.
i think he'll walk out of court
I'm beginning to think this is what's going to happen
Why?
because it appears its ok to shoot at anything that makes a noise in your home in SA, even if its lovers/wives
If he gets convicted, there might be an appeal.
i think he'll walk out of court
I'm beginning to think this is what's going to happen
Why?
not 100% convinced that the State has done enough for murder. As for CH he could get away with a hefty fine and walk
3 pages back..I slaved at 6am this morning and you didn't even make it 
this made me lololol
If he gets convicted, there might be an appeal.
i think he'll walk out of court
I'm beginning to think this is what's going to happen
Why?
not 100% convinced that the State has done enough for murder. As for CH he could get away with a hefty fine and walk
An injustice if this man 'walks' no pun intended .
If he gets convicted, there might be an appeal.
i think he'll walk out of court
I'm beginning to think this is what's going to happen
Why?
not 100% convinced that the State has done enough for murder. As for CH he could get away with a hefty fine and walk
The state hasn't convinced me on the premeditated murder charge, but I thought on Oscar's testimony alone that there was enough for CH. A fine for killing someone who hadn't actually threatened you doesn't feel right (even if he did think it was a burglar).
If he gets convicted, there might be an appeal.
i think he'll walk out of court
I'm beginning to think this is what's going to happen
Why?
because it appears its ok to shoot at anything that makes a noise in your home in SA, even if its lovers/wives
What a place to live.
The state hasn't convinced me on the premeditated murder charge, but I thought on Oscar's testimony alone that there was enough for CH. A fine for killing someone who hadn't actually threatened you doesn't feel right (even if he did think it was a burglar).
I think they have proved it was premeditated, although not towards Reeva. He picked up a loaded gun, removed the safety catch and allegedly yelled 'get the f*ck out of my house' he then proceeded to shoot into a space less than one metre and did not give anyone time to leave...even if it was a burglar. he was under no threat, went towards the supposed danger and threatened them
I think even if he didn't think it was Reeva, which I still have many doubts about... he thinks he's above the law
What a place to live.
Questions were being asked today about why the trial has not heard evidence from Oscar Pistorius's housekeeper after it emerged he was there on the night of the shooting.
Carice Viljoen, one of the first witnesses to arrive at the athleteâs villa, told the court today how she was met by a man called âFrankâ - his Malawian live-in helper - at the front door.
Her testimony suggests he was the closest person to the shooting and could have crucial evidence about the fateful night.
His unexpected mention stunned those following the trial who took to Twitter to express their disbelief.
Aislinn Laing, South Africa correspondent for the Daily Telegraph, tweeted: âAstonishing, but again perhaps an indication of SA attitudes, that weâve heard nothing until now about the nearest person to what happened.
'"Frankie" is a Malawian man who was Pistorius' live-in help. Why hasn't he given evidence?'
Andrew Harding, the BBCâs Africa correspondent, tweeted: âViljoen briefly mentions athleteâs housekeeper - presumably black, and the invisible figure in this case.
âHousekeeperâs name is Frank. Note - only first name used. Hint of the âupstairs downstairsâ divisions that still lurk in post-apartheid SA.â
Another user, Jennifer James, added: âFrank worked for #pistorius at the house. Why havenât we heard his testimony?â
What a farce ,mayhen took place that night and he states he slept through it .!!
The state hasn't convinced me on the premeditated murder charge, but I thought on Oscar's testimony alone that there was enough for CH. A fine for killing someone who hadn't actually threatened you doesn't feel right (even if he did think it was a burglar).
I think they have proved it was premeditated, although not towards Reeva. He picked up a loaded gun, removed the safety catch and allegedly yelled 'get the f*ck out of my house' he then proceeded to shoot into a space less than one metre and did not give anyone time to leave...even if it was a burglar. he was under no threat, went towards the supposed danger and threatened them
I think even if he didn't think it was Reeva, which I still have many doubts about... he thinks he's above the law
I made a mistake m'lady.
No problems luv off you pop.
The state hasn't convinced me on the premeditated murder charge, but I thought on Oscar's testimony alone that there was enough for CH. A fine for killing someone who hadn't actually threatened you doesn't feel right (even if he did think it was a burglar).
I think they have proved it was premeditated, although not towards Reeva. He picked up a loaded gun, removed the safety catch and allegedly yelled 'get the f*ck out of my house' he then proceeded to shoot into a space less than one metre and did not give anyone time to leave...even if it was a burglar. he was under no threat, went towards the supposed danger and threatened them
I think even if he didn't think it was Reeva, which I still have many doubts about... he thinks he's above the law
Hmm, it could be argued that he armed himself as a means of defense and not as an aggressor, and that he went towards the danger in order to protect Reeva, not to kill the burglar.
If he gets convicted, there might be an appeal.
i think he'll walk out of court
I'm beginning to think this is what's going to happen
Why?
not 100% convinced that the State has done enough for murder. As for CH he could get away with a hefty fine and walk
The state hasn't convinced me on the premeditated murder charge, but I thought on Oscar's testimony alone that there was enough for CH. A fine for killing someone who hadn't actually threatened you doesn't feel right (even if he did think it was a burglar).
I'm hoping against hopes that like pundits i.e. The Tie have stated that it's likely M'Lady will really concentrate on OPs testimony and not a lot of that will do him any favours. The fact that he had those bullets and fired indiscriminately without a warning shot is enough to get him a custodial sentence but I really doubt it
I made a mistake m'lady.
No problems luv off you pop.
Another witness with a sing song voice.
Hmm, it could be argued that he armed himself as a means of defense and not as an aggressor, and that he went towards the danger in order to protect Reeva, not to kill the burglar.
it could also be argued that he should have checked on her before he went into commando mode to shoot through a door personally, I think whoever was behind that door he intended to kill, the black talon bullets were not loaded into that chamber for pigeon shooting 
If he gets convicted, there might be an appeal.
i think he'll walk out of court
I'm beginning to think this is what's going to happen
Why?
not 100% convinced that the State has done enough for murder. As for CH he could get away with a hefty fine and walk
The state hasn't convinced me on the premeditated murder charge, but I thought on Oscar's testimony alone that there was enough for CH. A fine for killing someone who hadn't actually threatened you doesn't feel right (even if he did think it was a burglar).
I'm hoping against hopes that like pundits i.e. The Tie have stated that it's likely M'Lady will really concentrate on OPs testimony and not a lot of that will do him any favours. The fact that he had those bullets and fired indiscriminately without a warning shot is enough to get him a custodial sentence but I really doubt it
The SA judicial system seems so far removed from ours, that I haven't a clue what to expect as the verdict.
The state hasn't convinced me on the premeditated murder charge, but I thought on Oscar's testimony alone that there was enough for CH. A fine for killing someone who hadn't actually threatened you doesn't feel right (even if he did think it was a burglar).
I think they have proved it was premeditated, although not towards Reeva. He picked up a loaded gun, removed the safety catch and allegedly yelled 'get the f*ck out of my house' he then proceeded to shoot into a space less than one metre and did not give anyone time to leave...even if it was a burglar. he was under no threat, went towards the supposed danger and threatened them
I think even if he didn't think it was Reeva, which I still have many doubts about... he thinks he's above the law
Hmm, it could be argued that he armed himself as a means of defense and not as an aggressor, and that he went towards the danger in order to protect Reeva, not to kill the burglar.
any sensible person would move away from the danger if they have that option and OP did, not towards it. He probably felt braver knowing he had those bullets in his gun - even in the remote possibility he didn't know it was Reeva in the bathroom, he knew someone was there, gave no warning shot but the release off the gun and fired - smacks of aggression albeit high on adrenalin to me
I'm hoping against hopes that like pundits i.e. The Tie have stated that it's likely M'Lady will really concentrate on OPs testimony and not a lot of that will do him any favours. The fact that he had those bullets and fired indiscriminately without a warning shot is enough to get him a custodial sentence but I really doubt it
I'm hoping so too Pengy...if not I hope he never makes another penny
Another witness with a sing song voice.
I know 
what is it with the women of SA and their sing songy voices
Another witness with a sing song voice.
I know what is it with the women of SA and their sing songy voices
and did the impersonation to boot
Hmm, it could be argued that he armed himself as a means of defense and not as an aggressor, and that he went towards the danger in order to protect Reeva, not to kill the burglar.
it could also be argued that he should have checked on her before he went into commando mode to shoot through a door personally, I think whoever was behind that door he intended to kill, the black talon bullets were not loaded into that chamber for pigeon shooting
No doubt he ought to have checked where she was first, but it is all about intention. Was he trying to protect himself and Reeva from a (wrongly) perceived danger, or was he just in Rambo mode?
as we didn't get an Afrikaans to whale to English translation:
Motshuane: My husband phone security. He spoke in Afrikaans. They told my husband they're taking care of the situation. #OscarTrial
as we didn't get an Afrikaans to whale to English translation:
Motshuane: My husband phone security. He spoke in Afrikaans. They told my husband they're taking care of the situation. #OscarTrial
Another witness with a sing song voice.
I know what is it with the women of SA and their sing songy voices
and did the impersonation to boot
If you believe the ladies, their impersonation was of someone in great emotional pain.
Hmm, it could be argued that he armed himself as a means of defense and not as an aggressor, and that he went towards the danger in order to protect Reeva, not to kill the burglar.
it could also be argued that he should have checked on her before he went into commando mode to shoot through a door personally, I think whoever was behind that door he intended to kill, the black talon bullets were not loaded into that chamber for pigeon shooting
No doubt he ought to have checked where she was first, but it is all about intention. Was he trying to protect himself and Reeva from a (wrongly) perceived danger, or was he just in Rambo mode?
do you know, the more this case goes on, the more I'm convinced it's only himself and not Reeva he was protecting. Possibly this stems from being disabled and therefore being more vulnerable than most???? However, I still cannot believe that he didn't check on Reeva nor did he hear a single sound from her that would suggest she was in the room with him - sorry but even in whispered tones you'd hear her or rustling sheets or something
so she's testifying that she didn't hear a woman cry so disputing the State's evidence
No doubt he ought to have checked where she was first, but it is all about intention. Was he trying to protect himself and Reeva from a (wrongly) perceived danger, or was he just in Rambo mode?
see I don't get it at all...he heard a noise before and it was the washer...he went down to investigate the noise and did not shoot through the door...only when he opened it did he realise it was the washing machine...didn't call security, didn't call the police he just armed himself 
I still don not believe for one minute most of his story and not speaking/hearing Reeva is just absurd to me
Hmm, it could be argued that he armed himself as a means of defense and not as an aggressor, and that he went towards the danger in order to protect Reeva, not to kill the burglar.
it could also be argued that he should have checked on her before he went into commando mode to shoot through a door personally, I think whoever was behind that door he intended to kill, the black talon bullets were not loaded into that chamber for pigeon shooting
No doubt he ought to have checked where she was first, but it is all about intention. Was he trying to protect himself and Reeva from a (wrongly) perceived danger, or was he just in Rambo mode?
do you know, the more this case goes on, the more I'm convinced it's only himself and not Reeva he was protecting. Possibly this stems from being disabled and therefore being more vulnerable than most???? However, I still cannot believe that he didn't check on Reeva nor did he hear a single sound from her that would suggest she was in the room with him - sorry but even in whispered tones you'd hear her or rustling sheets or something
If you are right and it was all about Oscar feeling vulnerable and protecting himself, then perhaps that explains why he didn't check on Reeva.
#oscartrial Motshuane says she felt free to watch, because she was told she'd not be called to testify...
so apart from confirming that she didn't hear a woman scream/cry what was the point of her? and we're done for the day
so she's testifying that she didn't hear a woman cry so disputing the State's evidence
selective hearing...no woman crying, no gun shots, no bats...but a man crying
#oscartrial Motshuane says she felt free to watch, because she was told she'd not be called to testify...
so apart from confirming that she didn't hear a woman scream/cry what was the point of her? and we're done for the day
ridiculous and now off until Thursday
