Even picturing him doing that is making my blood boil. The arrogant, patronising, condescending little barrister needs taking down a peg or two.
In a virtual sense, of course.
Ag man! I can tell you're feeling the love for Gerrie
*punches screen and sends Pengy the bill for new ipad*
Even picturing him doing that is making my blood boil. The arrogant, patronising, condescending little barrister needs taking down a peg or two. In a virtual sense, of course.
Ag man! I can tell you're feeling the love for Gerrie
*punches screen and sends Pengy the bill for new ipad*
there's a possibility of a ricochet but that toilet is a very confined area. He did seem to hit her with as we now know, deadly accuracy with 3 of the 4 shots fired 
I put it to you . . . sound like Rumpole of the Bailey LOL
That if Reeva thought there was an intruder she may have been pressed up against the door to listen to what was happening
That's a good supposition Saint and may explain why he was able to hit her with such accuracy - someone correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the first shot hit her right hip?
Yes.
Not watching as you know, but .. if he thought she was in bed and told her to stay there... and she wasn't... how would she know there was an intruder?
there's a possibility of a ricochet but that toilet is a very confined area. He did seem to hit her with as we now know, deadly accuracy with 3 of the 4 shots fired
I put it to you . . . sound like Rumpole of the Bailey LOL
That if Reeva thought there was an intruder she may have been pressed up against the door to listen to what was happening
That's a good supposition Saint and may explain why he was able to hit her with such accuracy - someone correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the first shot hit her right hip?
Yes.
Not watching as you know, but .. if he thought she was in bed and told her to stay there... and she wasn't... how would she know there was an intruder?
He had shouted out to tell the intruder to get out of his house.
Even picturing him doing that is making my blood boil. The arrogant, patronising, condescending little barrister needs taking down a peg or two. In a virtual sense, of course.
Ag man! I can tell you're feeling the love for Gerrie
*punches screen and sends Pengy the bill for new ipad*
there's a possibility of a ricochet but that toilet is a very confined area. He did seem to hit her with as we now know, deadly accuracy with 3 of the 4 shots fired
I put it to you . . . sound like Rumpole of the Bailey LOL
That if Reeva thought there was an intruder she may have been pressed up against the door to listen to what was happening
That's a good supposition Saint and may explain why he was able to hit her with such accuracy - someone correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the first shot hit her right hip?
Yes.
Not watching as you know, but .. if he thought she was in bed and told her to stay there... and she wasn't... how would she know there was an intruder?
He had shouted out to tell the intruder to get out of his house.
ah right, thanks yogi.
Obviously just a very unfortunate accident then. Honest, m'lady.
I recall years ago when I was married, my hubby got in hours later that he had promised and was pissed up too, we ended up in a huge row and he just wouldn't shut up and go to bed to sleep it off. .he followed me all over the bluddy house as I was trying to get away from his whittering.. in the end I went in the bathroom, being the only door with a lock, to get him out of my face.
Good job I didn't live in SA 
Mind you he still carried on whittering thru the door. .if there had been a gun in there he may have been the one that got shot
I recall years ago when I was married, my hubby got in hours later that he had promised and was pissed up too, we ended up in a huge row and he just wouldn't shut up and go to bed to sleep it off. .he followed me all over the bluddy house as I was trying to get away from his whittering.. in the end I went in the bathroom, being the only door with a lock, to get him out of my face.
Good job I didn't live in SA
Mind you he still carried on whittering thru the door. .if there had been a gun in there he may have been the one that got shot
Thanks Erin.
interesting point in that weblink ask brunt about why the toilet door was locked if you're an intruder - possible fuel for the fire for prosecution case that Reeva was scared of him???? 
interesting point in that weblink ask brunt about why the toilet door was locked if you're an intruder - possible fuel for the fire for prosecution case that Reeva was scared of him????
It has to be the case because the other option is that the intruder broke into his house via the bathroom and then locked him/herself in the toilet
Have to agree with Martin Brunt about locking the toilet door - I always do so even when I'm the only one in the house so there is the opening (s'cuse pun) that either Reeva was just in the habit of doing so when she went to the toilet or she closed it in fear - guess we'll never know unless OP tells us and I doubt he will
Have to agree with Martin Brunt about locking the toilet door - I always do so even when I'm the only one in the house so there is the opening (s'cuse pun) that either Reeva was just in the habit of doing so when she went to the toilet or she closed it in fear - guess we'll never know unless OP tells us and I doubt he will
Not a chance of that .
Listening to him this morning I thought he has a script and is sticking to it .
interesting point in that weblink ask brunt about why the toilet door was locked if you're an intruder - possible fuel for the fire for prosecution case that Reeva was scared of him????
It has to be the case because the other option is that the intruder broke into his house via the bathroom and then locked him/herself in the toilet
exactly and which is why to me, OPs assertion that he believed there was an intruder in the toilet doesn't make any sense
Have to agree with Martin Brunt about locking the toilet door - I always do so even when I'm the only one in the house so there is the opening (s'cuse pun) that either Reeva was just in the habit of doing so when she went to the toilet or she closed it in fear - guess we'll never know unless OP tells us and I doubt he will
Not a chance of that .
Listening to him this morning I thought he has a script and is sticking to it .
If I'm honest I'm surprised that Nel hasn't broken him yet - perhaps that was the reason for the early adjournment today - to let him stew over the weekend and then go at him again??? OP is tougher than I gave him credit for which flies in the face of the 'emotional crying' we've been witness to
There's a lot of fan(ying) around 
innit though hi Moonie 
Hi Pengy
Hows you today?
Howzit Moons ma bra I'm down with the SA slang
*is still trying to work out how Pengys 'bra' got into this convo*
All is well with me fankoo I hope all is well in your world too
Have to agree with Martin Brunt about locking the toilet door - I always do so even when I'm the only one in the house so there is the opening (s'cuse pun) that either Reeva was just in the habit of doing so when she went to the toilet or she closed it in fear - guess we'll never know unless OP tells us and I doubt he will
Not a chance of that .
Listening to him this morning I thought he has a script and is sticking to it .
If I'm honest I'm surprised that Nel hasn't broken him yet - perhaps that was the reason for the early adjournment today - to let him stew over the weekend and then go at him again??? OP is tougher than I gave him credit for which flies in the face of the 'emotional crying' we've been witness to
I honestly think that's exactly why Nel went for an early adjournment .
OP was well and truly tied up in all his contradictions today.
Can't believe OP wants us to believe that Reeva remained mute when all this mayhem was taking place.
OP got so confused when he was asked the question "Did Reeva scream"?
There's a lot of fan(ying) around
innit though hi Moonie
Hi Pengy
Hows you today?
Howzit Moons ma bra I'm down with the SA slang
*is still trying to work out how Pengys 'bra' got into this convo*
All is well with me fankoo I hope all is well in your world too
SA slang for brother I'm fine thank you
there's a possibility of a ricochet but that toilet is a very confined area. He did seem to hit her with as we now know, deadly accuracy with 3 of the 4 shots fired
I put it to you . . . sound like Rumpole of the Bailey LOL
That if Reeva thought there was an intruder she may have been pressed up against the door to listen to what was happening
there's a possibility of a ricochet but that toilet is a very confined area. He did seem to hit her with as we now know, deadly accuracy with 3 of the 4 shots fired
I put it to you . . . sound like Rumpole of the Bailey LOL
That if Reeva thought there was an intruder she may have been pressed up against the door to listen to what was happening
but surely if she thought they were intruders it was because Oscar told her and if he told her, he must have known that she was in the toilet, or at the very least that she wasn't sound asleep in bed?
I wish I'd heard it all now.. damn this working caper.
On Sky news it has been explained that Nel made a significant legal breakthrough today.He made the point in court that OP should have and could have removed himself and Reeva from potential harm, but OP made the decision to go towards the danger and in that moment OP is transferred from potential victim of a violent crime to someone looking for trouble.
On Sky news it has been explained that Nel made a significant legal breakthrough today.He made the point in court that OP should have and could have removed himself and Reeva from potential harm, but OP made the decision to go towards the danger and in that moment OP is transferred from potential victim of a violent crime to someone looking for trouble.
yep nail on head
Although it's not the cracking of OP - he'll have a hard time on Monday coming back from this having ruminated all weekend
Great stuff again everyone, thanks!
OP should have admitted the gun charge, firing in the restaurant, and the illegal bullets. He has shaken his credibility with his pathetic excuses on these lesser charges.
Hope everyone is OK today! 
Hi Roxan How are you?
Exactly - shirking responsibility seems to be a running theme with OP [no pun intended].
It reminds me of the Paralympics when his immediate reaction after one race, was to petulantly badmouth the guy who beat him to gold. He couldn't admit he was simply slower but claimed the other guy had illegal blades. In slow motion they showed the victor's stride rate was simply faster.
Great stuff again everyone, thanks!
OP should have admitted the gun charge, firing in the restaurant, and the illegal bullets. He has shaken his credibility with his pathetic excuses on these lesser charges.
Hope everyone is OK today!
Hi Roxan How are you?
Exactly - shirking responsibility seems to be a running theme with OP [no pun intended].
It reminds me of the Paralympics when his immediate reaction after one race, was to petulantly badmouth the guy who beat him to gold. He couldn't admit he was simply slower but claimed the other guy had illegal blades. In slow motion they showed the victor's stride rate was simply faster.
Hello there
I agree, I was shocked by his reaction. For someone who fought so hard for blades to be allowed for the Olympics it was a pretty poor reaction, made me think he doesn't believe his own story that they don't offer a competitive advantage.
Good point Roxan. And it showed his temper too. I thoroughly enjoyed the Paralympic Games - it was held in a lovely spirit. Op's tantrum was the one sour note.
I agree, I was shocked by his reaction. For someone who fought so hard for blades to be allowed for the Olympics it was a pretty poor reaction, made me think he doesn't believe his own story that they don't offer a competitive advantage.
Hi Roxan
it's not his story - it's the poorly constructed story that poor Barry gave him as he's responsible for everything that's going wrong with OPs defence 
Hope you're having a good day
It seems OP's PR machine have made him untouchable...until now .
If you missed it today here it is .
afternoon all
I listened to it whilst throwing paint on the walls of my daughters kitchen, TV full blast and aiming paint from 4 metre's isn't a easy task I can tell you
I have a theory 
In our sub conscious do we dislike the lawyer that is leaning to the opposite view of us the most..all in all I find Roux to be far more annoying than Nel..Yogi is the opposite and tends to see things more plausible than I do in OP story. Just wondering, because this is far more noticeable on DS than here to be honest...and Pengy can't think straight because she's only got eyes for the tie, that's why she's neutral
I'm still of the mind he was just gung-ho, didn't think rationally and did a Rambo. Nothings been proven to make me think 100% he knew it was Reeva, although I think he's been totally stupid and added bits on to make his story more plausible and this is why he's tripping himself up. I believe he is guilty of all the gun charges against him, I think he told lies because he can't stand the thought of his reputation being tainted, him being a good christian boy 
He deliberately went out of his way to kill someone, which he succeeded in doing. He's no excuse, none whatsoever.. I hope he doesn't walk, because I'm sure in his head he feels HE has suffered enough Because after all he thinks it is all about him and how he's feeling, how its affecting his life...he's not had to account for anything in his life and seems to shy away, shift, blame anyone for his wrong doings.
That's my take on it so far...oh and Yogi
I believe they argued and with his anger/jealousy issues he went on the rampage and killed Reeva .
The End .
oh and bye the way, I could be totally wrong and usually am ...because the nicest people can be murders and OP isn't even nice. 
I believe they argued and with his anger/jealousy issues he went on the rampage and killed Reeva .
The End .
and you could be right, I could believe that too, but for the moment I'm going with he didn't know by a slight margin ...just in my eyes there still isn't enough proof Erin.
I truly believe he didn't set out to murder her specifically and it's CH but I want to see more evidence, even circumstantial, of a row that led to Reeva running scared
until then I stand by my earlier statement that irrespective of who he thought was behind the door, in his heightened state of paranoia he would have just shot. I need more evidence of a row
btw your dameship I can't help liking the tie - I'm a lost cause in that respect 
he would own up and asked to be locked up
Human Rights Commission asked to probe Nel over Pistorius trial - Times LIVE http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2014/04/11/human-rights-commission-asked-to-probe-nel-over-pistorius-trial âĶ via @TimesLIVE
really???????
Human Rights Commission asked to probe Nel over Pistorius trial - Times LIVE http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2014/04/11/human-rights-commission-asked-to-probe-nel-over-pistorius-trial âĶ via @TimesLIVE
really???????
that's mad
Human Rights Commission asked to probe Nel over Pistorius trial - Times LIVE http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2014/04/11/human-rights-commission-asked-to-probe-nel-over-pistorius-trial âĶ via @TimesLIVE
really???????
that's mad
wonder how much he paid them to do that possibly how he will appeal?
afternoon all
I listened to it whilst throwing paint on the walls of my daughters kitchen, TV full blast and aiming paint from 4 metre's isn't a easy task I can tell you
I have a theory In our sub conscious do we dislike the lawyer that is leaning to the opposite view of us the most..all in all I find Roux to be far more annoying than Nel..Yogi is the opposite and tends to see things more plausible than I do in OP story. Just wondering, because this is far more noticeable on DS than here to be honest...and Pengy can't think straight because she's only got eyes for the tie, that's why she's neutral
I'm still of the mind he was just gung-ho, didn't think rationally and did a Rambo. Nothings been proven to make me think 100% he knew it was Reeva, although I think he's been totally stupid and added bits on to make his story more plausible and this is why he's tripping himself up. I believe he is guilty of all the gun charges against him, I think he told lies because he can't stand the thought of his reputation being tainted, him being a good christian boy
He deliberately went out of his way to kill someone, which he succeeded in doing. He's no excuse, none whatsoever.. I hope he doesn't walk, because I'm sure in his head he feels HE has suffered enough Because after all he thinks it is all about him and how he's feeling, how its affecting his life...he's not had to account for anything in his life and seems to shy away, shift, blame anyone for his wrong doings.
That's my take on it so far...oh and Yogi
@ the pic. Hi Dame.
Not sure about your theory. I think in this particular instance, I just find Nel an arrogant, sarcastic twonk!
You are right about Pengy and The Tie though.
And I agree about him doing a Rambo, and don't think the state has done enough to prove that there was a huge row and he shot Reeva in a rage.
I also think he is so desperate to get off on all charges that he is telling porkies and that could be his undoing.
There's a lot of truth in your last paragraph too - I do think he feels genuine remorse about shooting Reeva but he is self-centred, and his main concern is how it all affects him.
