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Originally Posted by Aimee:
Oscar did ask to meet Reevas parents but they wasn't ready

yes - that's one alleged 'lie' dispelled.  Fair play to June Steenkamp for telling Nel and getting it on record.  As much as what is happening must be tearing her apart, she's being fair to OP.  She could just have shut her mouth 

FM
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:

 

I'm watching bits...but I have to go out shortly, he's going to start crying because he's tired 

Morning your dameship 

 

I feel there will be a breakdown very soon - he's been accused of saying his tired to cover his lies 

 

morning Pengy 

 

I fear if Nel doesn't come with something soon...he's flogging a dead horse here at the moment I missed that bit about the lying tired stuff, I came back into the room when Judgey was asking him if he was too tired 

Dame_Ann_Average
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Pengy:

so we get to the crux of what Nel is saying - basically that with the alarm system, there is no way burglars could have got into his house without the alarm going off 

 

 

I think that's what he's trying to get too 

took him long enough but it seems Nel's method is to chip chip chip and bang get an admission  or OP says he can't remember  probably because he's not tired 

FM
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Pengy:
 

took him long enough but it seems Nel's method is to chip chip chip and bang get an admission  or OP says he can't remember  probably because he's not tired 

 

so far still not enough evidence fro premeditated...but, he should never be let loose again with a gun 

to be honest I don't think Nel will ever be able to show premeditated 

FM
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Pengy:
 

to be honest I don't think Nel will ever be able to show premeditated 

 

nope  Most of the time I just think he went off Rambo style to be honest without a thought for anyone or anything ...it will never be proven they were rowing I doubt. He's very selective memory hasn't he 

yes to all of that - I don't think he set out to specifically kill Reeva, who ever was in that bathroom, burglar or RS, they were gonners  and that's why I feel the state will only get a CH prosecution 

FM
Originally Posted by Pengy:
 

yes to all of that - I don't think he set out to specifically kill Reeva, who ever was in that bathroom, burglar or RS, they were gonners  and that's why I feel the state will only get a CH prosecution 

 

 

I agree 100%, I also think the case is proven over the gun charges, and those charges can be between 5/15 years...not that he will get that I doubt 

Dame_Ann_Average
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Pengy:
 

yes to all of that - I don't think he set out to specifically kill Reeva, who ever was in that bathroom, burglar or RS, they were gonners  and that's why I feel the state will only get a CH prosecution 

 

 

I agree 100%, I also think the case is proven over the gun charges, and those charges can be between 5/15 years...not that he will get that I doubt 

I keep forgetting about those charges as they seem minor in comparison to RS's murder 

FM
Originally Posted by Aimee:
How long do you think he will get?

Whose idea was it for this to be televised and did OP have a choice in it?

 

anyone's guess Aims...this is SA and he holds a lot of clout, he's still highly regarded in some quarters,,,why I have no clue. 

 

I don't know ho decided to give permission for it to be televised and I doubt OP had any say in the decision as he was the accused. 

 

Dame_Ann_Average
Originally Posted by Aimee:
How long do you think he will get?

Whose idea was it for this to be televised and did OP have a choice in it?

I understand that this is the first televised SA case - the judge at the bail hearing I think was the one who deliberated on whether it would be filmed and what conditions the filming would undertake i.e. like witnesses being able to say they didn't want to be filmed so no OP had no choice in it except to say he didn't want to be filmed whilst giving evidence 

 

as for how long he'll get - sheesh I'm not sure - he could get one sentence for the fire arm offences but not sure if CH would run concurrently or consecutively - not sure of what the SA sentencing system is so will go off and google  

FM
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:

 

 

see this is what I don't get...if a statement is in his favour..he goes into great detail with the wording, if its a negative against him he can't remember. 

yep 

 

Originally Posted by Aimee:
It was a hot night then why was the fans outside

allegedly as the air conditioning wasn't working, he put the fans slightly outside to draw cool air into the room 

FM

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