I feel there will be a breakdown imminently
yesssss, his life is on the line
I feel there will be a breakdown imminently
yesssss, his life is on the line
so in fear of his life he fired accidentally????? fired randomly - considering how many times he hit target I'm finding that statement hard to believe
he stood in the passage contemplating his options yesterday and today he didn't have time to think, he's contraindicated himself all the way through his testimony
so in fear of his life he fired accidentally????? fired randomly - considering how many times he hit target I'm finding that statement hard to believe
I am too
Nel is getting grumpy but Oscar is staying calm.
Me too, I'd be punching Nel by now. I think he is heavily medicated, Aimee.
I can't seeing being heavily medicated Yogi, he would have grounds for a mistrial... and he shouldn't keep on about his life on the line, Reeva lost hers
He's calmer than yesterday, despite being cross examined by that yapping jack russell, so I think he is medicated - but I could be wrong.
I'm trying to keep up with this thread (it's my main source of info!) but... on the DM site he says he told the judge he didn't mean to kill Reeva.. or anyone. What did he think four bullets were going to do when they exploded? Turn into pixie dust and glitter and leave 'anyone' unscathed? I doubt it was premeditated, but I don't believe for a minute it was an accident.
now that the questions are harder why are you emotional judge seems to disagree but I'm with Nel
Judge is right to pull up Nel, he is out of order.
He's calmer than yesterday, despite being cross examined by that yapping jack russell, so I think he is medicated - but I could be wrong.
I am quiet happy he's got the yapping jack russell probing him
now that the questions are harder why are you emotional judge seems to disagree but I'm with Nel
me too...its all about him and I have said that since he started giving evidence
I'm trying to keep up with this thread (it's my main source of info!) but... on the DM site he says he told the judge he didn't mean to kill Reeva.. or anyone. What did he think four bullets were going to do when they exploded? Turn into pixie dust and glitter and leave 'anyone' unscathed? I doubt it was premeditated, but I don't believe for a minute it was an accident.
Couldn't agree more Kaffs - especially when you factor in that the bullets were the type to expand to ensure a definite kill on impact as Nel has said, it doesn't matter that Reeva was the target, that gun was loaded to kill and he shot to kill 'a burglar'
I'm trying to keep up with this thread (it's my main source of info!) but... on the DM site he says he told the judge he didn't mean to kill Reeva.. or anyone. What did he think four bullets were going to do when they exploded? Turn into pixie dust and glitter and leave 'anyone' unscathed? I doubt it was premeditated, but I don't believe for a minute it was an accident.
I think he's altered facts to suit his testimony, but that doesn't mean to say he knew Reeva was behind the door Kaffs, but to say he didn't intend to shoot or kill anyone is just daft.
I'm trying to keep up with this thread (it's my main source of info!) but... on the DM site he says he told the judge he didn't mean to kill Reeva.. or anyone. What did he think four bullets were going to do when they exploded? Turn into pixie dust and glitter and leave 'anyone' unscathed? I doubt it was premeditated, but I don't believe for a minute it was an accident.
I don't think it was "an accident", in as much as I think he meant to shoot the person in the toilet, but I don't think he is guilty of premeditated murder of Reeva.
Judge is right to pull up Nel, he is out of order.
I think it's a valid question, whilst I agree with the Judge that he's been 'emotional' throughout the trial, when ever he gets asked a difficult question he does start wibbling and crying and it could in all honesty, be perceived as a tactic to elicit sympathy.
I'm trying to keep up with this thread (it's my main source of info!) but... on the DM site he says he told the judge he didn't mean to kill Reeva.. or anyone. What did he think four bullets were going to do when they exploded? Turn into pixie dust and glitter and leave 'anyone' unscathed? I doubt it was premeditated, but I don't believe for a minute it was an accident.
I think he's altered facts to suit his testimony, but that doesn't mean to say he knew Reeva was behind the door Kaffs, but to say he didn;t intend to shoot or kill anyone is just daft.
I agree.
Judge is right to pull up Nel, he is out of order.
I think it's a valid question, whilst I agree with the Judge that he's been 'emotional' throughout the trial, when ever he gets asked a difficult question he does start wibbling and crying and it could in all honesty, be perceived as a tactic to elicit sympathy.
and don't forget its my life on the line...you shot and killed an innocent person and so it should be
Judge is right to pull up Nel, he is out of order.
I think it's a valid question, whilst I agree with the Judge that he's been 'emotional' throughout the trial, when ever he gets asked a difficult question he does start wibbling and crying and it could in all honesty, be perceived as a tactic to elicit sympathy.
No, it was a snide question and as judgie pointed out, Oscar has been emotional throughout, not just now.
He's calmer than yesterday, despite being cross examined by that yapping jack russell, so I think he is medicated - but I could be wrong.
I am quiet happy he's got the yapping jack russell probing him
I don't like jack russells.
He's calmer than yesterday, despite being cross examined by that yapping jack russell, so I think he is medicated - but I could be wrong.
I am quiet happy he's got the yapping jack russell probing him
I don't like jack russells.
OI! Milo is half JR
Oooo it's Llewellyn time on Sky
Right, I'm off to get some housework done, see you later.
I won't be here tomorrow and Friday I will be catching up with the thread later...and I'll try and have the lappy on at some point tomorrow to listen in. I have my grandchildren all day...how inconvenient friday I am painting for my daughter...but will have the case on while I throw paint at her kitchen walls
I am off to see reactions from around the web
I'm trying to keep up with this thread (it's my main source of info!) but... on the DM site he says he told the judge he didn't mean to kill Reeva.. or anyone. What did he think four bullets were going to do when they exploded? Turn into pixie dust and glitter and leave 'anyone' unscathed? I doubt it was premeditated, but I don't believe for a minute it was an accident.
I don't think it was "an accident", in as much as I think he meant to shoot the person in the toilet, but I don't think he is guilty of premeditated murder of Reeva.
no.. in as much as I don't believe he thought 'I'll lure her here, wait till she's in the loo and shoot her' It's no big stretch (well.. no stretch at all) for me to believe the argued, she got scared, hid in the loo and he shot her in temper/blind rage
He's calmer than yesterday, despite being cross examined by that yapping jack russell, so I think he is medicated - but I could be wrong.
I am quiet happy he's got the yapping jack russell probing him
I don't like jack russells.
OI! Milo is half JR
Oooo it's Llewellyn time on Sky
But his other half is dominant and makes him gorgeous.
He's calmer than yesterday, despite being cross examined by that yapping jack russell, so I think he is medicated - but I could be wrong.
I am quiet happy he's got the yapping jack russell probing him
I don't like jack russells.
OI! Milo is half JR
Oooo it's Llewellyn time on Sky
just switched over
He's calmer than yesterday, despite being cross examined by that yapping jack russell, so I think he is medicated - but I could be wrong.
I am quiet happy he's got the yapping jack russell probing him
I don't like jack russells.
I'm trying to keep up with this thread (it's my main source of info!) but... on the DM site he says he told the judge he didn't mean to kill Reeva.. or anyone. What did he think four bullets were going to do when they exploded? Turn into pixie dust and glitter and leave 'anyone' unscathed? I doubt it was premeditated, but I don't believe for a minute it was an accident.
I think he's altered facts to suit his testimony, but that doesn't mean to say he knew Reeva was behind the door Kaffs, but to say he didn't intend to shoot or kill anyone is just daft.
exactly... which just reinforces my opinion he's a lying, agressive nutjob who could easily pop a few bullets in her if she pissed him off.
I won't be here tomorrow and Friday I will be catching up with the thread later...and I'll try and have the lappy on at some point tomorrow to listen in. I have my grandchildren all day...how inconvenient friday I am painting for my daughter...but will have the case on while I throw paint at her kitchen walls
I am off to see reactions from around the web
absent I shall keep us all updated
He's calmer than yesterday, despite being cross examined by that yapping jack russell, so I think he is medicated - but I could be wrong.
I am quiet happy he's got the yapping jack russell probing him
I don't like jack russells.
OI! Milo is half JR
Oooo it's Llewellyn time on Sky
just switched over
my fixation with him is not healthy it's the ties that swing it for me
I am off to see reactions from around the web
absent I shall keep us all updated
I know...I might download a movie for them and hope they behave sit and watch it while I pop on and off here
Friday I will have the TV on loud and will try and pop in on my coffee breaks
just switched over
my fixation with him is not healthy it's the ties that swing it for me
I'm more worried about you and Yogi with the silly and ludicrous fixation the the ROUX
Is it finished for the day?
just switched over
my fixation with him is not healthy it's the ties that swing it for me
I'm more worried about you and Yogi with the silly and ludicrous fixation the the ROUX
Is it finished for the day?
yes until tomorrow Saint
Fankoo Pengy
Yogi look what I found *legs it*
just switched over
my fixation with him is not healthy it's the ties that swing it for me
I'm more worried about you and Yogi with the silly and ludicrous fixation the the ROUX
Yogi look what I found *legs it*
Just curious, does anyone believe there is a chance this was an accident? A stupid irresponsible accident?
Hellooooooo to all :waves:
Hi Rox. I am in the, "not convinced it was premeditated murder, but guilty of culpable homicide" camp.
Hello Roxan.
And now for the sake of your reader here we go.
Wibble, wobble, cheesy chips, bum fluff, monkey on a motorbike.
Ha ha ha.
It seems to me that Oscar P was under no immediate threat.
He could have withdrawn, called for security or even left his house.
Firing explosive bullets, was it five times, looks like a massive over reaction to the situation he perceived to be happening.
Those shots were intended to stop someone, not harm and not to scare but to kill.
Hi Roxan - hope you are well
I don't think they will be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. So he will be found innocent of murder.
And then the family will go for a private prosecution (if the countries law allows that)
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