I wonder what she is referring to?

Most of what you posted I can think could be possible by some pure quirk of fate...but! There are still many questions to answer, like it was pitch black but he could see a pair of jeans on the floor, he can't balance yet he bent down on Reeva's side of the bed to get the gun and presumably had his hand on the bed to balance and didn't notice she was not there. Shouting in the hall and waiting to consider his options all the while she was bound to have heard is voice getting nearer and never once made a sound? Its not a slam dunk for me yet Yogi and I do believe Nel entered stuff into evidence to bring out in cross examination, its on the record in court and can be used at anytime...even though it wasn't mentioned before. 

Noticeably today, Roux took us painstakingly through all the text kisses again  I add kisses to all my friends by the way and once to my car mechanic by accident. He avoided the one text that maybe would have tripped OP up and that was the text where she said she was afraid of him at times...this will be brought up of that I have not doubt. I also said the first time around I heard the texts, there wasn't a great deal of romance in them, the majority were more like I would send everyday. 

I don't believe there was this when eyes met across the room romance and to say he was buying a house for them after 5 week was quite frankly laughable Yogi. I definitely think they milked it to the point of it being far fetched. Still all my doubts don't prove premeditated murder Yogi 

one thing I think she said was to do with the dinner - in the bail statement he said they were in bed by 10pm but today he said they were in bed by 8pm.  he said originally that they both went to sleep straight away, today he said that he went to sleep and Reeva was still awake and he'd asked her to close the balcony doors - some are minor discrepancies and others are huge - I think that may count against him 

We need to catch up DS are up to nearly 500 pages last time I looked

its been merged about 4 times 

you should search OP on the shooting range on youtube Yogi...that may give you an idea of why he used the bullets 

We need to catch up DS are up to nearly 500 pages last time I looked

I tried to find the DS thread Aims... can you post a link pretty please? 

he's changed quite a bit Baz...I've read his original statement, maybe fitting facts to match his story...now I'm back to I don't know again 

Originally Posted by Aimee:

We need to catch up DS are up to nearly 500 pages last time I looked

I tried to find the DS thread Aims... can you post a link pretty please? 

I second that Aimee.

That wasn't me Dame I'm in the * guilty as sin * camp  

Originally Posted by Aimee:

We need to catch up DS are up to nearly 500 pages last time I looked

I tried to find the DS thread Aims... can you post a link pretty please? 

I second that Aimee.

I'm not sure how this will help him, it could work either way. If he had to hold on around the bed, collect the gun from under Reeva's side, how comes he didn't notice she was not there if he was holding on to her side of the bed. instinctively you can normally feel a presence in bed next you you...well I always can 

We need to catch up DS are up to nearly 500 pages last time I looked

I tried to find the DS thread Aims... can you post a link pretty please? 

Just further confirms how ridiculous his story is to me, but hey, ho, lets hear the evidence and keep an open mind

But I'm trying to be a Gaga Juror who only goes on the evidence shown in court.

it must be heartbreaking for her to hear the last moments of her daughters life 

And the bullshit and his tears for himself..god it makes me soooo angry, good job I have to go to work and can't listen to all of the legal crap

And the bullshit and his tears for himself..god it makes me soooo angry, good job I have to go to work and can't listen to all of the legal crap

I definitely believe a great deal of tears are for himself and what he did, when he apologised to her parents in court I found that truly distasteful...discretely would have had much more sincerity about it 

I agree Dame. I still believe he did it As murder and not an accident.

I feel he must get a grip, he surely should start thinking about Reeva's family and their feelings..I'm still at the moment in the Culpable Homicide department...although I am sure he's told lies...the gun/car episode for instance. I also think he's covered up his recklessness in the house, but its not proving to me it was premeditated Baz for me

There's the rub for me, he had a grip alright, he ain't got it now....totally self obsessed and self driven, no regard for others imcho

If he did shout out that there were intruders in the house, surely it is possible that Reeva locked herself in the toilet to stay safe and didn't reply to Oscar for fear of said intruders finding her.

If he had shouted that there were intruders in the bathroom, then I would have expected Reeva to reply that it was her in the bathroom and not to panic.

Originally Posted by Xochi:

Originally Posted by Aimee:

We need to catch up DS are up to nearly 500 pages last time I looked

I tried to find the DS thread Aims... can you post a link pretty please? 

I second that Aimee.

here you go...its in general discussion forum 

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk...thread.php?t=1950859

Originally Posted by cologne 1:

Originally Posted by Xochi:

Originally Posted by Aimee:

We need to catch up DS are up to nearly 500 pages last time I looked

I tried to find the DS thread Aims... can you post a link pretty please? 

I second that Aimee.

 

 

here you go...its in general discussion forum 

 

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk...thread.php?t=1950859

Thanks Dame.

So he didn't check that out by simply asking "Reeva, it's Oscar,is that you"

He never once stopped to think that he hadn't heard Reeva speak. If he was so traumatised by a would be burglar, surely she would be at least scared enough to shout and scream too. I'm afraid I still believe in the red mist. He can't cope with it now, but that doesn't undo it.

I know this ...but the OP we are seeing in court isn't the OP that we would have seen last year...speeding, hell raising and shooting guns off at every given chance.  the real OP is the one that laughs about his dog ripping a reporters toenail off and who shoots Melons and talks about a comparison to a brain...this is a pitiful OP, that's killed an innocent person and ruined two families lives. The real OP that was there last year bears no resemblance to the OP of today frankly Yogi 

..and on Valentine's day. 'accidentally' shot the shit out of his gf, believing her to be a burglar. Seriously, I can't even begin to understand why anyone would give him the benefit of the doubt and, no disrespect, but those who do need to read a bit about power and control and the dynamics of relationship/domestic abuse

I know this ...but the OP we are seeing in court isn't the OP that we would have seen last year...speeding, hell raising and shooting guns off at every given chance.  the real OP is the one that laughs about his dog ripping a reporters toenail off and who shoots Melons and talks about a comparison to a brain...this is a pitiful OP, that's killed an innocent person and ruined two families lives. The real OP that was there last year bears no resemblance to the OP of today frankly Yogi 

What I find strange is that he must have had incredible mental and emotional strength to battle through and make a success of his sport , but suddenly he's a total , quivering wreck ,blubbing all over the place ...doesn't ring true to me  

we will not construe that this is from Barry Roux 

Morning Dame.

You can better your last penny that Nel will be going back to Oscar being able to see the jeans on the floor.

Originally Posted by Aimee:

We need to catch up DS are up to nearly 500 pages last time I looked

 

 

its been merged about 4 times 

but are their jurors as good as us - we are thoroughly looking over the evidence 

btw your dameship I'm so tempted to start a Lewellyn's tie twitter account 

and I know it's really bad to laugh but.. the fake Judge account on there had me in stitches today I'm still laughing at the thought of a tweet about the lunch break