Masipa going through case law for culpable homicide conviction and sentencing #OscarPistorius MV
so much for Barry's examples - she seems to have dismissed them
Masipa going through case law for culpable homicide conviction and sentencing #OscarPistorius MV
so much for Barry's examples - she seems to have dismissed them
OP didn't fire lower than than he intended he was on his stumps and fired straight
#oscartrial Masipa also points out that the ability of the accused to foresee the result of his action must also be considered
Masipa says defence referred court to a number of cases but judge doesn't think they're on point. #OscarPistorius #OscarTrial
#OscarTrial Masipa does pay special attention to Voster case - employer shot domestic worker's grandchild thinking it was an intruder.
Judge more impressed by a case cited by state. #OscarPistorius
#OscarTrial Masipa: the loss of life cannot be reversed - hopefully the sentence today can provide closure for the family and all concerned.
so she brought the crap that Oscar Woscar is remorseful
#PistoriusTrial In that case, the court registered the remorse and pain expressed by man accused of THAT crime
so linking it to OPs case surely?
OP didn't fire lower than than he intended he was on his stumps and fired straight
One shot would have been a warning, four shots were meant to kill - regardless of who he thought was behind the door.
if she lets him walk it goes against all she's done previously
Barry Roux's Ubuntu argument doesn't seem to have carried any weight. #OscarTrial
we can only hope so
#PistoriusTrial Must be agonising for both families listening to this legal explanation when they're just desperate to know outcome
Aimee has apparently got Oscar's bag with his stuff in it at the ready in court
OP didn't fire lower than than he intended he was on his stumps and fired straight
One shot would have been a warning, four shots were meant to kill - regardless of who he thought was behind the door.
exactly Yogi
if she lets him walk it goes against all she's done previously
Isn't she known for harsh sentences in cases of violence against women?
Masipa: important factors - extent of deviation from reasonable person (gross) and consequences of conduct (severe).
#PistoriusTrial Judge says one should strive to keep people out of prison (if they not serial criminals)
it's gonna be non custodial - I feel it in my waters
I'm getting annoyed
Judge reads that other verdict, briefly confusing us on benches - where man got suspended sentence for culp homicide.
he's not the only one - I thought the buga had walked
Judge reads that other verdict, briefly confusing us on benches - where man got suspended sentence for culp homicide.
he's not the only one - I thought the buga had walked
it was slightly confusing
Judge reads that other verdict, briefly confusing us on benches - where man got suspended sentence for culp homicide.
he's not the only one - I thought the buga had walked
Hubby walked through the room and spoke to me. I was well confused!
I'm getting annoyed
me too
Masipa"It is clear that the facts in Vorster are dissimilar to the facts in the present case."Why on EARTH did she spend so long on it then?
good point
yes and she was locked in a toilet that the light was broken and her phone was in the bathroom... I don't believe a word of it
#PistoriusTrial Important differences: OP KNEW there was person behind door
most believe he'll get the same sentence as Vorster
#PistoriusTrial Important differences: OP KNEW there was person behind door
most believe he'll get the same sentence as Vorster
Masipa says in the Voster case thee was only 1 shot fired, in Voster aim was to frighten intruder, not shoot as OP #OscarPistorius MV
REALLY not impressed by #masipa reference to Vorster case, but she's pointing out discrepancies #oscar
The only similarity between the cases then is the post fact remorse. The facts are almost polar opposite. No way sentence can be the same.
Ooh!
if she lets him walk it goes against all she's done previously
Isn't she known for harsh sentences in cases of violence against women?
allegedly but if she was she'd have found for DE not CH
I wish they could announce the sentence first, then tell us how they reached the decision. The waiting is excruciating!
Clearest indication Judge Masipa has given yet that #OscarPistorius is going to prison - "correctional supervision not appropriate"
can we hope that?
#OscarPistorius Masipa - find degree of negligence in this matter is too severe for sentence suggested by defence
if she lets him walk it goes against all she's done previously
Isn't she known for harsh sentences in cases of violence against women?
allegedly but if she was she'd have found for DE not CH
which it should have been..she's said herself again today he fired and knew there was someone behind the door
#PistoriusTrial So Judge seems to have ruled out house arrest. But confused everybody by citing a prev case and outling that sentence
#OscarTrial Masipa: in the case referred to, the accused was sentenced to eight years in prison, wholly suspended.
the case where the man shot his wife as an intruder - the one most think where OP got the idea of his defence
Suspended sentence not appropriate in this case
Judge raises blood pressure again by describing another sentence of eight years, with a portion suspended. We're still not at Pistorius ..
Judge: "The present case is so serious that a suspended sentence would not be appropriate in my view." #OscarPistorius
Will he have to stand before she tells us what he gets?
Judge raises blood pressure again by describing another sentence of eight years, with a portion suspended. We're still not at Pistorius ..
Judge: "The present case is so serious that a suspended sentence would not be appropriate in my view." #OscarPistorius
Will he have to stand before she tells us what he gets?
I think so
Short custodial sentence?
Judge, now agreeing with Nel, says too lenient sentence might prompt public to lose faith and take justice into own hands. #OscarPistorius
Judge rules out suspended sentence for #OscarPistorius
Judge says she wants to ensure Pistorius will remain a useful and productive member of society. Inching towards a conclusion now.
so OP is to get the mercy he didn't show whoever was behind that door
Short custodial sentence?
sounds like it Yogi
Judge: "A non-custodial sentence wd send the wrong message to the community.On the other hand a long sentence would not be appropriate."
Masipa: True mercy has nothing to do with weakness but is an element of justice. #OscarPistorius #OscarTrial
so he's effectively got off with the Tasha's incident
don't know if Nel will appeal now ...I think it's better than we expected
Masipa: Five years in prison. #Pistorius
Firearms - 3 years suspended for 5 years on condition that he doesn't reoffend of a crime where there is negligence involving the use of a fire arm
sentences run concurrently
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