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Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:

 

am going to miss it all 

 

I think Nel speaks, then Roux and then Nel can refute...think that's how it works 

it's a bit like a mini session like when they did heads when he was found guilty

 

sorry flooring woman came and has now gone

 

 

if it's solid oak lay it in your own pad 

Dame_Ann_Average
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Pengy:

stands, gives slightly shake of head, speaks to his sister.

 

 

Oooo next Tuesday to deliver sentence is a possibility 

 

 

yes....I will miss heads of argument but will here the sentencing if it goes ahead on Tuesday 

I think M'lady wants this finished so I think that she will find the time - hope it's done before I go to uni 

FM
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Pengy:
 

I think M'lady wants this finished so I think that she will find the time - hope it's done before I go to uni 

 

I think I am fine on Tuesday.... if not it will be the school run and breakfast club whether they like it or not 

good enough for the little blighters 

FM
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
 

 If you don't mind answering, what did he die of, Dame?

 

 

he died of an heart attack at 37 Yogi, it took them 45 minutes to get an ambulance to him and the nurse/first aider on duty was treating him for asthma...even though his cell mate was telling telling her that he was having an heart attack and the warder was shouting to get paramedics there...it was a shambles.

My cousin is still perusing a court case for an apology and the prison service and ambulance service will not issue one. she even met with the Minister for the Prison service  She is not after compensation she would't get it anyway as she is not listed as his next of kin, his own parents are still classed as that after having him put up for adoption at 14 . 

  That's absolutely shocking Dame xx

FM

All the mulling over what sentence / punishment is appropriate, reminds me of Penology [ no its not what you think  ].

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penology

 

Penology was part of Criminology - probably the most interesting subject of my Law degree. Hope Masipa remembers the wider context when handing down a sentence. Its all been too Oscar-centric 

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by Roger the Alien:

All the mulling over what sentence / punishment is appropriate very much reminds me of Penology [ no its not what you think  ].

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penology

 

Penology was part of Criminology - probably the most interesting part of my Law degree. Hope Masipa remembers the wider context when handing down a sentence. Its all been too Oscar-centric 

I wouldn't trust Masipa to run my bath 

FM

I have read back in here. Thanks for the posts, ladies, as I couldn't be bothered to catch up on You Tube. This trial has dragged on so long, I'm at the stage now when I just want the sentence handed down - and I can't help thinking that judgey had already decided on the sentence she will give, long before any closing arguments took place.

Yogi19

 

 

an open letter to Oscar Pistorius from Ari Seirlis, the CEO of QASA, the QuadPara Association of South Africa.

 

http://www.dailymaverick.co.za...erence/#.VD_9Bb5xuTM

 

 

Dear Oscar – here’s how you can still make a difference 

Mr Pistorius, the greatest contribution you can make for those with disabilities will be in prison. So show the country that you are the great man you said you were – take your punishment, and make prison a place where disabilities are well accommodated.

People with disabilities in South Africa - and the formal disability agencies and associations representing this constituency - have been trying, desperately, to be recognised in the mainstream.

We want equal employment opportunities, we want to be recognised as contributors to society in South Africa, we want the opportunity to circulate in accessible transport and building infrastructure. We want to get degrees, diplomas, jobs, promotions; we want to have families.

All part of normal society.

However, when we transgress, and break the law, we must accept the appropriate punishment, too. We do not want special laws for people with disabilities just because one OP killed his girlfriend. And now you, the very same person who bragged about fighting your way into the Olympic arena, which you thought was greater than the Paralympic arena, are desperately trying to find a way of doing community service in the disability sector and community.

You must also show your colours in the correctional services arena. JAIL.

We do not want you doing community service in our sector. You profess to have inspired the disability sector and constituency. A referendum would prove you wrong. Your arrogance has never been embraced by us. Your achievements have only fed your own ego. Your definition of philanthropy is giving away an old pair of Nikes and a scratched pair of Oakleys, mixing with people with disabilities whilst cameras flash; giving away your signature.

You should learn from the greatest philanthropists. Alas, it is too late.

If you want to make a difference for the disability sector, please go to jail and make sure that they provide the necessary reasonable and accessible accommodations for yourself and those with disabilities to follow.

Influence the correctional services authorities on what is required to have basic human rights in prison. No more, no less.

By not serving time in jail, you are ensuring that those facilities, should they not be accessible, will simply remain so.

You are fast, you are agile, you know how to use a weapon - so don't fear, you will survive. The only difference is that you won't have a fan club.

Stand up and show us the man that you said you were. Take your punishment, and you will see that South Africans are very forgiving.

You have lots to contemplate behind those bars and, I guess, still plenty of time to make a difference on this earth.

 

Dame_Ann_Average

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