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Originally Posted by Pengy:
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I think we can safely say OP is toast and that wasn't the first word I typed

 

 

I think OP put his head in is hands because its dawned on him what's to come 

allegedly he's crying his eyes out - reckon he's booking in to that jail

 

 

I've read loads over this last week....and more and more of his testimony isn't adding up for me Pengy.

Dame_Ann_Average
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Or

I think we can safely say OP is toast and that wasn't the first word I typed

 

 

I think OP put his head in is hands because its dawned on him what's to come 

allegedly he's crying his eyes out - reckon he's booking in to that jail

 

 

I've read loads over this last week....and more and more of his testimony isn't adding up for me Pengy.

the trouble with SA is they have a habit of rehabilitating their sports superstars and OP is one of them.  I'm wondering if he'll get off with a very light sentence.  They are more likely to forgive an Afrikaaner than an English South African (English speaking)  I was gobsmacked reading stuff about how much distrust there still is between Afrikaaners and English SAs   the hate is still there.  One only has to think some of their recent sports stars who have virtually got away with it - such as cricketer Ntini accused of rape, conviction squashed, James Dalton aka Bullet accused of trying to drown his wife (case postponed so many times it was thrown out in the end), Hansie Cronje - fraud with Indian bookmakers despite being a pious Afrikaaner boy - motto What would Jesus do? Even today despite dying, Hansie is still considered one of the most influential South Africans

 

Two of my all time favourite South African rugby players (I'm nuts about SA rugby and follow The Blue Bulls (Blou Bulle) avidly) have shocked me - Japie Mulder fined for 'interfering' with his best friends 14 year old daughter - a fine FGS!!!  And my absolute favourite rugby player James Small exposed as a drug/alcoholic wife beater   must be something in the psyche left over from apartheid or the fact that these knobs are put on such a pedestal

 

all of the above are still considered heroes by the SA public

FM

I'm playing catchup this morning.

From what I have seen, Nel is coming across as patronising and arrogant. He needs to tread carefully and not overstep the mark (in my opinion).

I think the professor ought to have replied to Nel, "I answered your question the first time you asked, but you didn't get the answer you wanted, which is why you asked the question three times".

 

 

 

Yogi19
Originally Posted by Yogi19:

I'm playing catchup this morning.

From what I have seen, Nel is coming across as patronising and arrogant. He needs to tread carefully and not overstep the mark (in my opinion).

I think the professor ought to have replied to Nel, "I answered your question the first time you asked, but you didn't get the answer you wanted, which is why you asked the question three times".

 

 

 

  Howzit Yogs

FM
Originally Posted by Yogi19:

I'm playing catchup this morning.

From what I have seen, Nel is coming across as patronising and arrogant. He needs to tread carefully and not overstep the mark (in my opinion).

I think the professor ought to have replied to Nel, "I answered your question the first time you asked, but you didn't get the answer you wanted, which is why you asked the question three times".

 

 

 

Morning Yogi  

 

I think he's behaving exactly like Roux did ...but this is a supposedly expert witness used to doing this day in and day out. Roux was relentless with Joe Bloggs off the street trying to recall the events that they heard. 

Dame_Ann_Average
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:

I'm playing catchup this morning.

From what I have seen, Nel is coming across as patronising and arrogant. He needs to tread carefully and not overstep the mark (in my opinion).

I think the professor ought to have replied to Nel, "I answered your question the first time you asked, but you didn't get the answer you wanted, which is why you asked the question three times".

 

 

 

  Howzit Yogs

Good Pengy, how are you?

Yogi19
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:

I'm playing catchup this morning.

From what I have seen, Nel is coming across as patronising and arrogant. He needs to tread carefully and not overstep the mark (in my opinion).

I think the professor ought to have replied to Nel, "I answered your question the first time you asked, but you didn't get the answer you wanted, which is why you asked the question three times".

 

 

 

Morning Yogi  

 

I think he's behaving exactly like Roux did ...but this is a supposedly expert witness used to doing this day in and day out. Roux was relentless with Joe Bloggs off the street trying to recall the events that they heard. 

Hi Dame.

But you didn't like it when Roux did it.

I do agree that an expert witness should be cross examined in a thorough way, it's Nel's tone and attitude I don't like.

Yogi19
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:

I'm playing catchup this morning.

From what I have seen, Nel is coming across as patronising and arrogant. He needs to tread carefully and not overstep the mark (in my opinion).

I think the professor ought to have replied to Nel, "I answered your question the first time you asked, but you didn't get the answer you wanted, which is why you asked the question three times".

 

 

 

Morning Yogi  

 

I think he's behaving exactly like Roux did ...but this is a supposedly expert witness used to doing this day in and day out. Roux was relentless with Joe Bloggs off the street trying to recall the events that they heard. 

According to Sky updates - Roux has complained that Nel didn't give Botha time to answer his questions - not sure why were are no longer live as they're back and OP should be up next

 

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:

I'm playing catchup this morning.

From what I have seen, Nel is coming across as patronising and arrogant. He needs to tread carefully and not overstep the mark (in my opinion).

I think the professor ought to have replied to Nel, "I answered your question the first time you asked, but you didn't get the answer you wanted, which is why you asked the question three times".

 

 

 

  Howzit Yogs

Good Pengy, how are you?

I'm good thanks

FM
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:

I'm playing catchup this morning.

From what I have seen, Nel is coming across as patronising and arrogant. He needs to tread carefully and not overstep the mark (in my opinion).

I think the professor ought to have replied to Nel, "I answered your question the first time you asked, but you didn't get the answer you wanted, which is why you asked the question three times".

 

 

 

Morning Yogi  

 

I think he's behaving exactly like Roux did ...but this is a supposedly expert witness used to doing this day in and day out. Roux was relentless with Joe Bloggs off the street trying to recall the events that they heard. 

Hi Dame.

But you didn't like it when Roux did it.

I do agree that an expert witness should be cross examined in a thorough way, it's Nel's tone and attitude I don't like.

apparently that's why they call him the bulldog he's unrelenting

FM
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
 

But you didn't like it when Roux did it.

I do agree that an expert witness should be cross examined in a thorough way, it's Nel's tone and attitude I don't like.

 

  

 

I didn't mind when he did it with the expert witnesses..but I found his bullying approach to the neighbours awful... I think all experts should be cross examined rigorously to be honest. 

 

Dame_Ann_Average
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:

I'm playing catchup this morning.

From what I have seen, Nel is coming across as patronising and arrogant. He needs to tread carefully and not overstep the mark (in my opinion).

I think the professor ought to have replied to Nel, "I answered your question the first time you asked, but you didn't get the answer you wanted, which is why you asked the question three times".

 

 

 

Morning Yogi  

 

I think he's behaving exactly like Roux did ...but this is a supposedly expert witness used to doing this day in and day out. Roux was relentless with Joe Bloggs off the street trying to recall the events that they heard. 

Hi Dame.

But you didn't like it when Roux did it.

I do agree that an expert witness should be cross examined in a thorough way, it's Nel's tone and attitude I don't like.

apparently that's why they call him the bulldog he's unrelenting

More like a pitbull.

I no likey his style.

Yogi19
Originally Posted by Pengy:

Shriwen Diwani (sp) is due to be flown out tonight to SA for allegedly having his wife killed - doubt there's enough money in the world to save him - wonder if his family have been on the phone to Barry to defend him?

 

 he's not got a cat in hells chance...saying that some of the evidence is overwhelming in his case .

Dame_Ann_Average
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Pengy:

they're showing graphic pictures of Reeva's wounds which is why we can't see anything

 

 

I am seeing them  I have channel 517 on and can see the wounds. 

channel 517 - I'm on the red button with 501 *runs off to switch*

 

why did I not know about this channel before now - I've been watching on a tiny screen doh!

 

FM
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Pengy:

they're showing graphic pictures of Reeva's wounds which is why we can't see anything

 

 

I am seeing them  I have channel 517 on and can see the wounds. 

channel 517 - I'm on the red button with 501 *runs off to switch*

 

why did I not know about this channel before now - I've been watching on a tiny screen doh!

 

 

 

its the African news channel Pengy 

Dame_Ann_Average
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
 

But you didn't like it when Roux did it.

I do agree that an expert witness should be cross examined in a thorough way, it's Nel's tone and attitude I don't like.

 

  

 

I didn't mind when he did it with the expert witnesses..but I found his bullying approach to the neighbours awful... I think all experts should be cross examined rigorously to be honest. 

 

I didn't mind when Roux did it to the Burger woman and her hubby, because I thought their testimony was suspect/embroidered/altered to fit the prosecutions version of events.

Yogi19
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:

 

The wound is still up on the screen behind Nel 

 

Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Pengy:

they're showing graphic pictures of Reeva's wounds which is why we can't see anything

 

 

I am seeing them  I have channel 517 on and can see the wounds. 

channel 517 - I'm on the red button with 501 *runs off to switch*

 

why did I not know about this channel before now - I've been watching on a tiny screen doh!

 

 

 

its the African news channel Pengy 

I can see it now as I've switched

 

to be fair to Botha he's not a ballistician so Nel is asking him to commit to something he is not an expert on hence why Roux was complaining.  However, Nel is rather tearing his testimony apart

FM
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
 

But you didn't like it when Roux did it.

I do agree that an expert witness should be cross examined in a thorough way, it's Nel's tone and attitude I don't like.

 

  

 

I didn't mind when he did it with the expert witnesses..but I found his bullying approach to the neighbours awful... I think all experts should be cross examined rigorously to be honest. 

 

I didn't mind when Roux did it to the Burger woman and her hubby, because I thought their testimony was suspect/embroidered/altered to fit the prosecutions version of events.

you pair   to use a SA rugby term - chirping back 10 metres

FM
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
 

But you didn't like it when Roux did it.

I do agree that an expert witness should be cross examined in a thorough way, it's Nel's tone and attitude I don't like.

 

  

 

I didn't mind when he did it with the expert witnesses..but I found his bullying approach to the neighbours awful... I think all experts should be cross examined rigorously to be honest. 

 

I didn't mind when Roux did it to the Burger woman and her hubby, because I thought their testimony was suspect/embroidered/altered to fit the prosecutions version of events.

you pair   to use a SA rugby term - chirping back 10 metres

I have no idea what that means, but I like it.

Yogi19
Originally Posted by Pengy:
 

I can see it now as I've switched

 

to be fair to Botha he's not a ballistician so Nel is asking him to commit to something he is not an expert on hence why Roux was complaining.  However, Nel is rather tearing his testimony apart

 

To be fair...Roux sort of introduced it, so it left the door wide open for Nel to do this 

Dame_Ann_Average
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
 

But you didn't like it when Roux did it.

I do agree that an expert witness should be cross examined in a thorough way, it's Nel's tone and attitude I don't like.

 

  

 

I didn't mind when he did it with the expert witnesses..but I found his bullying approach to the neighbours awful... I think all experts should be cross examined rigorously to be honest. 

 

I didn't mind when Roux did it to the Burger woman and her hubby, because I thought their testimony was suspect/embroidered/altered to fit the prosecutions version of events.

you pair   to use a SA rugby term - chirping back 10 metres

I have no idea what that means, but I like it.

you know when a referee has penalised a player and they won't shut up and keeps arguing with him, in SA they call that chirping and a punishment is to make the side that the chirping player is from move back 10 metres and if still doesn't shut up he'll do it again all the way to the try line if necessary so you have to be careful about chirping in SA

FM
Originally Posted by Pengy:
 

you pair   to use a SA rugby term - chirping back 10 metres

I have no idea what that means, but I like it.

you know when a referee has penalised a player and they won't shut up and keeps arguing with him, in SA they call that chirping and a punishment is to make the side that the chirping player is from move back 10 metres and if still doesn't shut up he'll do it again all the way to the try line if necessary so you have to be careful about chirping in SA

 

clear as mud  I know not one jot about Rugby 

Dame_Ann_Average
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Pengy:
 

you pair   to use a SA rugby term - chirping back 10 metres

I have no idea what that means, but I like it.

you know when a referee has penalised a player and they won't shut up and keeps arguing with him, in SA they call that chirping and a punishment is to make the side that the chirping player is from move back 10 metres and if still doesn't shut up he'll do it again all the way to the try line if necessary so you have to be careful about chirping in SA

 

clear as mud  I know not one jot about Rugby 

  you must come over to the dark side of rugby - you're missing so much with the haka

 

 

 

FM

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 6m

I haven't seen #OscarPistorius this upset (during a recess) in a while. His brother, sister and aunt all hugging now him as he sobs audibly.
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Alex Crawford ‏@AlexCrawfordSky 6m

#OscarPistorius OP is sobbing his heart out. Comforted by psychologist and enveloped by his siblings

 

and

#OscarPistorius The psychologist has had a short chat with the defence team. OP looks like he is packing up his stuff to leave court?

 

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