I thinks Masipa is on a sticky wicket with this judgement Pengy 
given what the legal experts rather than just twittering journos are saying, I think you could be right
I thinks she must do something with CH, otherwise an appeal must follow swiftly
BREAKING WIND: Lunch break extended as #oscarpistorius is locked in toilet. They're calling for a cricket bat #oscartrial199
I love Neal - he was born in SA, raised in England and played football for England then returned to SA when his father got sick - he's the only white football pundit in SA and is on that radio station I listen to 
the tweets are turning firey on twitter - most are referring to the fact that as a white, rich man he's been able to escape a murder rap but if he was black he'd almost certainly have been found guilty - think this could have racial tension implications
OscarTrial the orderly announces that proceedings will resume soon.
apparently Roux and Nel are back now
the tweets are turning firey on twitter - most are referring to the fact that as a white, rich man he's been able to escape a murder rap but if he was black he'd almost certainly have been found guilty - think this could have racial tension implications
yes, I feared that as soon as she announced the second verdict
what is a 'reasonable' man and how do you empirically measure it? 
#PistoriusTrial ITs not just a 'reasonable man' test, its also did he have any other option? ie cd he have fired just ONE shot rather than 4
what is a 'reasonable' man and how do you empirically measure it?
every reasonable man/woman/or child would not have reacted in the way he did that I know of
OscarTrial Masipa: the test for negligence - would a reasonable person have foreseen the reasonable possibility of the consequence
#OscarTrial The Reasonable Man test is contentious - what is a reasonable man? How is it defined? Masipa goes to literature on this
what is a 'reasonable' man and how do you empirically measure it?
every reasonable man/woman/or child would not have reacted in the way he did that I know of
especially when she's quoting case law from the apartheid era 
RT @karynmaughan: Masipa: One must test reasonableness against backdrop of someone of the same background as the accused
#oscartrial Masipa: disability mud be taken into account..
they they mean must
what is a 'reasonable' man and how do you empirically measure it?
every reasonable man/woman/or child would not have reacted in the way he did that I know of
especially when she's quoting case law from the apartheid era
yes
RT @karynmaughan: Masipa: One must test reasonableness against backdrop of someone of the same background as the accused
#oscartrial Masipa: disability mud be taken into account..
they they mean must
exactly call security - they were hanging about outside by all counts 
Masipa says #OscarPistorius wouldn't have been expected to run from danger, but there were other options (phone security)
because he murdered her and you have not taken this into account in the DE charge 
Masipa says there were other things that #OscarPistorius could've done instead of arming himself and shooting at the door #sabcnews
think she's heading towards a CH verdict just how long the sentence will be is the question we want answered
All accused had to do was pick up cellphone to call for security... could have run to balcony to scream... says Judge.
All accused had to do was pick up cellphone to call for security... could have run to balcony to scream... says Judge.
this is what I can't understand to the DE charge 
Masipa: at time Pistorius heard window slide open, he was nearer to balcony than the bathroom (ie he could have called for help)
Masipa says there were other things that #OscarPistorius could've done instead of arming himself and shooting at the door #sabcnews
think she's heading towards a CH verdict just how long the sentence will be is the question we want answered
another week probably
Judge offers alternative scenario - if OP had woken to see silhouette over bed and shot... could have been excusable
so she's not persuaded it was reasonable 
Masipa: "The accused had reasonable time to reflect, to think and to conduct himself reasonably. I am not persuaded that a reasonable..."
Masipa: at time Pistorius heard window slide open, he was nearer to balcony than the bathroom (ie he could have called for help)
and I repeat guilty of DE I AM CONFUSED AS TO SHE CAN COME TO GUILTY OF ch AND NOT THE OTHER IF SHE DOES
oops sorry
how can the type if bullets used not be relevant? 
Judge offers alternative scenario - if OP had woken to see silhouette over bed and shot... could have been excusable
so she's not persuaded it was reasonable
its mad innit, making no sense whatsoever
how can the type if bullets used not be relevant?
Judge cites
#OscarPistorius background, growing up with crime, and with no father at home.
*BBC
Masipa: Would a reasonable person have foreseen that whoever was behind the door might have been struck by a bullet and die? Answer is yes.
why have we stopped???
I'm going to miss the first 30 minutes...keep the tweets coming..I will try and be back for 10 to nine
And with that - we're adjourned for the day. So clearly, culpable homicide will be the sentence, but she hasn't spelled it out yet.
Judge cites
#OscarPistorius background, growing up with crime, and with no father at home.
*BBC
like millions of others CS...he's just an hotheaded idiot
Judge cites
#OscarPistorius background, growing up with crime, and with no father at home.
*BBC
2/3rds of South Africans black and white grow up with that scenario but don't shoot people because of it
Masipa: Would a reasonable person have foreseen that whoever was behind the door might have been struck by a bullet and die? Answer is yes.
why have we stopped???
If she's lenient you can bet Nel will appeal, she's just made a mockery of the ED not guilty charge
Judge cites
#OscarPistorius background, growing up with crime, and with no father at home.
*BBC
2/3rds of South Africans black and white grow up with that scenario but don't shoot people because of it
snap Pengy... no excuse and he's done it far too frequently
Masipa: Would a reasonable person have foreseen that whoever was behind the door might have been struck by a bullet and die? Answer is yes.
why have we stopped???
If she's lenient you can bet Nel will appeal, she's just made a mockery of the ED not guilty charge
why do I keep putting that back to front I meant DE
So what would we talking length wise for a sentence if "culpable homicide" is the verdict?
