are they due a lunch break soon? I need to nip out quickly but don't want to miss the actual verdict...

My take on it all, based on instinct and info form various different places and OP's character is that they had a huge row and she locked herself in the bathroom to get away form OP and he was pissed off with that so started banging on the door with a bat to try to open it and she screamed to tell him to stop and in a fit of fiery rage he went to get a gun to shoot the lock off and shot her as well.. intent may not have been to shoot her but he did considering the ammunition he used and she may have been collateral damage but if he'd missed her and got in I bet it wouldn't have been for a 'friendly' chat.

I could be completely wrong but I reckon it was something like that ..  who am I to say but nothing else makes sense to me

Masipa: OP has not admitted that he intended to kill the decease or anyone.

sounds like she's going back towards the defence version 

Masipa: OP has not admitted that he intended to kill the decease or anyone.

sounds like she's going back towards the defence version 

FGS No DE either 

Cheers Dame

Damn I wanted to miss the lunchtime traffic, with my aggy I have to plan to go when it is quiet and not busy on the road so I can do a dash and back asap..  if it looks like a verdict wont be until after lunch I may risk going now and do a catch up with thread when I get back.. decisions decisions

#PistoriusTrial JUdge says from onset every time he fired, he believed deceased was in bedroom. Evid doesnt support dolus eventualis

Oscar is in a bit of a state.

I'm not sure...she may run over Olly...I think he's going to get away with it 

I will miss this thread when it is over. .I've nto watched any on the TV or LS but have followed this thread.

am constantly refreshing now to find out the verdict ..

thanks to all of you for giving me a good read. .

Hope he gets a long long sentence

Really hope the British guy's trial is televised too. .I'll be stuck for something to follow on here if it isn't

Gawd no I knew I'd be hooked to the LF if I started . .

plus I don't get up til later in the morning anyway as don't go to sleep til later at night so I would have missed loads of it..

I don't get this, did the judge think he was shooting to kill the door then?

with four shots using high velocity bullets he surely meant to kill or wound someone. .

the tie thinks he'll can't get away with CH - so I guess this is the best we can hope for 

are they due a lunch break soon? I need to nip out quickly but don't want to miss the actual verdict...

My take on it all, based on instinct and info form various different places and OP's character is that they had a huge row and she locked herself in the bathroom to get away form OP and he was pissed off with that so started banging on the door with a bat to try to open it and she screamed to tell him to stop and in a fit of fiery rage he went to get a gun to shoot the lock off and shot her as well.. intent may not have been to shoot her but he did considering the ammunition he used and she may have been collateral damage but if he'd missed her and got in I bet it wouldn't have been for a 'friendly' chat.

I could be completely wrong but I reckon it was something like that ..  who am I to say but nothing else makes sense to me

According to BBC twitter feed he's been found Not Guilty.

twitter peeps are not happy - saying because he's a rich, white sports hero, he's going to get off. 

Ironically JT and the Tie are talking about a reasonable man about Pretoria - let's face it, anyone else would have been found guilty of DE 

of murder Cinds - we still have a possible Culpable Homicide (manslaughter) verdict to go 

twitter peeps are not happy - saying because he's a rich, white sports hero, he's going to get off. 

Ironically JT and the Tie are talking about a reasonable man about Pretoria - let's face it, anyone else would have been found guilty of DE 

he deserves every bit of it...sorry Yogi but that's how I feel 

I understand, Dame. 

I do feel sad that someone who has so much talent and has achieved so much in spite of his disability, has effectively ruined his own life - but my sympathy lies with Reeva.

I should add re my above post that I am totally against state sanctioned murder capital punishment but do understand the need for vengeance and wouldn't blame someone on Riva's behalf taking the little scroat out. .In France they'd call that a crime of passion I think

I think her family have behaved impeccably throughout... unlike the Pistorious clan