I saw a Panorama (I think) programme which cast doubt on his guilt, so I'm open minded on the Dewani case.
I saw the one on Sky, I think it proved beyond doubt he was guilty. I think she was a beard and not his wife in the proper sense
I saw a Panorama (I think) programme which cast doubt on his guilt, so I'm open minded on the Dewani case.
I saw the one on Sky, I think it proved beyond doubt he was guilty. I think she was a beard and not his wife in the proper sense
Judge defends husband and wife state witnesses - the Burgers - against defence claims that their evidence was suspiciously similar.
Burger and Johnson's evidence was unreliable. Judgey agreed with me.
I saw a Panorama (I think) programme which cast doubt on his guilt, so I'm open minded on the Dewani case.
I saw the one on Sky, I think it proved beyond doubt he was guilty. I think she was a beard and not his wife in the proper sense
I'm not saying I think he is innocent, just that I don't know if he's guilty.
I hope it's televised, it should make interesting viewing.
Masipa says they weren't to know why Cpt Van Aardt wrote the statements in the style he did.
public slap down for Mike - no promotion for him
Burger and Johnson's evidence was unreliable. Judgey agreed with me.
I never thought they were Mrs Burger's evidence tallies with OP's internet usage at 2am in the morning when she said she heard rowing
I'm not saying I think he is innocent, just that I don't know if he's guilty.
I hope it's televised, it should make interesting viewing.
yes, I could be persuaded if the proof was there...I have been in this case
kudos to him for supporting OP at court
Judge Masipa is on the defence side right now,ref timeline,state witness reliability and whether OP could scream like a woman when in danger
Judge Masipa is on the defence side right now,ref timeline,state witness reliability and whether OP could scream like a woman when in danger
I'm thinking the same
I'm not saying I think he is innocent, just that I don't know if he's guilty.
I hope it's televised, it should make interesting viewing.
yes, I could be persuaded if the proof was there...I have been in this case
When I started watching this case I was completely open minded and prepared to accept it was a terrible accident, but I have been persuaded by the evidence that Oscar is guilty of CH.
the toilet was separate Jen..another door
#OscarTrial Masipa: the acoustics expert cast serious doubt whether the witnesses could differentiate between a male/female scream.
this ping pong between State and Defence is
Yes she agrees that RS must have died within seconds of the head wound
Oscar looks like he is crumbling.
#oscartrial Masipa: 'either injuries would have been enough to kill her' - she'd be incapable of any voluntarily action..
Oscar looks like he is crumbling.
he is Yogz
#oscartrial Masipa: 'either injuries would have been enough to kill her' - she'd be incapable of any voluntarily action..
Poor lass
#OscarTrial Masipa: the shots were fired in quick succession which meant the deceased would not have been able to scream
#OscarPistorius shoulders seem to be shaking
#OscarPistorius verdict Judge asks if the screams were OP's voice 'why did he scream'?
I'm not saying I think he is innocent, just that I don't know if he's guilty.
I hope it's televised, it should make interesting viewing.
yes, I could be persuaded if the proof was there...I have been in this case
When I started watching this case I was completely open minded and prepared to accept it was a terrible accident, but I have been persuaded by the evidence that Oscar is guilty of CH.
I was to be honest, I thought it surely had to be an accident. Now I am convinced it was more than that, but hope he gets at least CH I find it impossible for him not to know it was her in the bathroom, she had taken her phone but it was left in the bathroom and never taken into the toilet where the light was broken..I think it was dropped when he was chasing her All my thoughts, but I feel much more went on that night Yogi.
Judge critical of #OscarTrialVerdict broadcast, says it was clear that witnesses had listened to evidence, had "fore knowledge
State getting a bit of a bashing here
Yet again, I agree with judgey about witnesses' evidence.
I'm confused how M'lady is going about this
This sounds a lot like unfair trial material to me.
Surely not!!!!
Judge critical of #OscarTrialVerdict broadcast, says it was clear that witnesses had listened to evidence, had "fore knowledge
State getting a bit of a bashing here
This sounds a lot like unfair trial material to me.
Surely not!!!!
noooooooooooooooooo
Masipa: "The probability is that some witnesses failed to separate what they knew personally and what they heard from others, the media."
She doesn't agree that Stipp tailored his evidence he had a torrid time on the stand
#OscarPistorius verdict State case rested mostly on circumstantial evidence gleaned from witnesses and Judge is brushing them aside
Judgey and I are in agreement about Dr Stipp.
Imo, Mrs Stipp was a different matter.
Masipa: "The probability is that some witnesses failed to separate what they knew personally and what they heard from others, the media."
She doesn't agree that Stipp tailored his evidence he had a torrid time on the stand
yes...Mrs Stipp was particularly vocal on her treatment by Roux
State is winning scraps, but main points so far are going to the defence. #OscarPistorius
Masipa: "The probability is that some witnesses failed to separate what they knew personally and what they heard from others, the media."
She doesn't agree that Stipp tailored his evidence he had a torrid time on the stand
I agree with her on that.
#OscarPistorius verdict State case rested mostly on circumstantial evidence gleaned from witnesses and Judge is brushing them aside
I have found Alex Crawford to be very biased throughout Pengy...watch for a SKY exclusive with the Pistorious family
Masipa: "This shows the difficult terrain that this court had to traverse in order to reach its conclusion... Human beings are fallible."
Masipa: it would be unwise to rely on any evidence about what witnesses heard without testing it against objective evidence
I'm waiting for her judgement on the DT's witnesses
#OscarPistorius verdict State case rested mostly on circumstantial evidence gleaned from witnesses and Judge is brushing them aside
I have found Alex Crawford to be very biased throughout Pengy...watch for a SKY exclusive with the Pistorious family
totally agree - I think she's vile grrrr
She now refers to the phone records which help to determine the timeline,Pistorius's calls to friends &security,neighbours calls to security
Last night, hubby (who has only seen coverage of the trial from news reports) said he expects a not guilty verdict.
Last night, hubby (who has only seen coverage of the trial from news reports) said he expects a not guilty verdict.
he's admitted shooting her - so he'll have to have some sort of sentence but it depends on which verdict she gives - he could even walk but I very much doubt that - I think it will be CH with a pittance of a sentence
Last night, hubby (who has only seen coverage of the trial from news reports) said he expects a not guilty verdict.
I hope not...but this is my fear
#OscarTrial Masipa: after the shots, screams were heard, then neighbours started phoning security, then the bat strikes the door.
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