#OscarTrial Roux jumps right on Nel's biggest weakness. There is no explanation of the first bangs "shots".
Hahaha! Roux off to a great start by replacing pages of his summary!
this is where we get the fairy tale
#OscarPistorius Reeva's friends Gina and Kim Myers also leave by side door
Hahaha! Roux off to a great start by replacing pages of his summary!
Xochiiiiiiiiiii you snuck in quietly there
I know! I was too transfixed to Nel *drools* to post before now.
I'm gonna have to go and do some quick packing...this is only on another 30 minutes, I will leave the sound on whilst I am faffing....later Moonie and Xochi
Hahaha! Roux off to a great start by replacing pages of his summary!
Xochiiiiiiiiiii you snuck in quietly there
I know! I was too transfixed to Nel *drools* to post before now.
Strange woman
I'm gonna have to go and do some quick packing...this is only on another 30 minutes, I will leave the sound on whilst I am faffing....later Moonie and Xochi
Had to read that twice
Okay Dameeeeeeeeeeeee..pack well
See you later
Hahaha! Roux off to a great start by replacing pages of his summary!
Xochiiiiiiiiiii you snuck in quietly there
She's gonna make the final bid
One krugerand for the whole charade.
Display it in the Tate.
Satchi's frothing but it goes to a Chinese bidder.
*wonders if Banksy will do a take of this farce trial?*
This bloke is good
Nope. He's full of shoite waffle.
Wow! Roux is outdoing his previous desperation!
This bloke is good
Nope. He's full of shoite waffle.
Wow! Roux is outdoing his previous desperation!
It sounds plausible to me so far
*legssssssssssssssssss it*
Wow! Roux is outdoing his previous desperation!
It sounds plausible to me so far
*legssssssssssssssssss it*
Wow! Roux is outdoing his previous desperation!
It sounds plausible to me so far
*legssssssssssssssssss it*
See you later, if you are around Xochi
She's off to Nobu with Dame Kiri Te Kawana moons.
Its all that Frem
*knows Dameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee is gonna kill me now*
just got in - I have a lot to catch up on - the bit before lunch, after and then Barry's guff - surprised the state finished so soon
just got in - I have a lot to catch up on - the bit before lunch, after and then Barry's guff - surprised the state finished so soon
*passes reading glasses*
Jeebus I was up till 2am catching up *pass me some matchsticks for my eyes
I hope Barry doesn't go on and on today as I could do with a nap.
I am getting slightly concerned that the barsteward will get a light sentence or will get off all together. I appreciate M'Lady can't know every aspect of law but I did a double take when she asked if Nel could really use the What's app pages
anyhoo Frank Moonie where's my veggie brekkie and cup of peppermint tea ?
expect the page to be spammed today
#OscarPistorius Both fathers (Reeva's and Oscar's) are in court again for the second day
Oscar #Pistorius has arrived for the final day of his murder trial, with a banner of support hung outside the court
I had to laugh at Barry yesterday he was very excitable which is fair enough he is trying to defend his client
is it me or has his hair receded further? The stress of the case has got to him
and why does Kenny *who ate all the pies* Oldwage wear an earpiece? He understands Engerleesh perfectly?
#OscarPistorius The defence summing up runs to 243 pages - a weighty document
looks like we're in for a long day - hope he gets it all done
Defence stresses "reasonable doubt" test, in urging Judge Masipa to acquit #OscarPistorius
#OscarPistorius defence has rpoduced detailed timeline of what they say happened and noises heard
we've begun
Roux asks why the photo wasn't taken (of Stipp's view of #OscarPistorius house) with the curtain in it's normal position
Roux accuses police of pulling back curtain in photo, thus distorting real view Stipps had of #OscarPistorius home.
1 lie V Rensburg never touched anything
2 V R seen with hand on plug of clipper and extension cord
#OscarTrial Roux: Van Rensburg said he was checking the linkage to the fan. But that plug has nothing to do with the fan.
Now photo from #OscarPistorius bedroom, with investigator kneeling by bed. Roux accuses state of lying twice re. evidence here.
photo 55 shows this according to Roux and he's quoting Nel's words from his heads of arguments
3rd photo - which Roux says prompted Nel "to call accused a liar" is of fan in #OscarPistorius bedroom. Much debate about who moved what.
Roux shows the court another photo of #OscarPistorius bedroom - showing the side of his bed and the plugs
ramming home that the extension cord wasn't made available but now State have given photo which refutes what Nel said about the extension cord
And we're back to the famous missing extension cord - which defence insists made #OscarPistorius version of his moving the fan credible.
Nel cross examined OP at length about cords in room, place on the plugs and accused him of lying in his answers. Hence Roux focus on photos.
#OscarTrial Roux is now showing the photo showing the extension cord that reaches the end of the bed.
clipper plug allegedly not plugged in so room for extension cord
Roux showing court photographs of how the crime scene was tampered with#OscarPistorius
#OscarTrial Roux: Nel told the accused that the extension cord could not extend further. He shows a pic of it extended further. BB
Roux again touching on objects being moved in OP's house/room - saying it isn't a conspiracy, but things were moved #OscarPistorius
Roux: we do not say there was a police conspiracy to move fans and duvets. We say it was done inadvertently.
#oscartrial Roux: the fan was not in the door early in the morning, you had to move it to get out, to work there...they picked up duvet...
This is all preamble stuff. Roux has yet to start summarising his case. #OscarPistorius
#OscarTrial Roux: Don't come to court and protest an undisturbed scene if there was interference.
Here comes some serious pulling of rabbits out of hats!!! #OscarTrial #BarryRoux
He's challenging why Hilton Botha wasn't called - suggesting something fishy about how the scene was handled? corrupt cop therefore corrupt working scene?
Roux: Police may have moved objects such as the fans because they thought that they would not form part of the evidence #OscarPistorius
Sustained incredulity from Nel yesterday. Sustained (so far) indignation from Roux today. #OscarPistorius
#OscarTrial Roux: several police officer say they were upstairs. Van Rensburg just dismissed them.
Roux also questioning officers testimony - some say they were alone upstairs, others say they were many offices up there #OscarPistorius
Hilton Botha due to go on trial this month for attempted murder. He and fellow officers accused of opening fire on a minibus taxi @eNCAnews
Roux - accuses policeman Van Rensberg of lying about presence of other officers at crime scene when tampering allegedly occured.
#oscartrial Roux: what must the court find in view of the 'cold facts'? On their own evidence it cannot be that scene was undisturbed...
#OscarTrial In summary, at least 12 of Nel's Big Lies of OP relate to crime scene. Roux saying the scene was rubbish though
think Charl is already in the pub drinking his Friday evening beer
Roux argues that, in light of state failure to lead evidence of Botha etc, the court cannot find that OP scene was undisturbed @eNCAnews
Roux: the state failed to present evidence which would support the defence's claim that the scene was tampered with. #OscarTrial
#OscarTrial Roux: Nel was wrong claiming that the perception of the accused that there was an intruder must be reasonable.
Roux urges Judge to weigh "perceptions" versus "objective facts" in #OscarPistorius case.
Barry Roux does bore me but he can construct a sentence (hopefully a25 year one) #oscartrial
#OscarPistorius Roux now talking about OP's 'perception of an intruder'. He repeated this over and over again. Not a recent fabrication
Roux seeks to make a strength of fact that #OscarPistorius submitted his own affidavit early - a move many have described as crucial error.
Roux says he believes OP trial should have started with a charge of culpable homicide "and that's how it should have continued" @eNCAnews
#OscarPistorius Roux refers to OP's fears of intruder mentioned in his bail application - even before he'd seen police docket (charges)
Roux defends defence witness Professor Derman against Nel's "so-called expert" taunts. #OscarPistorius
Not sure anyone could take Prof Derman seriously
#OscarTrial Roux says it's extremely unfair to call Prof. Derman a self-professed expert. He's highly qualified.
Roux also disagrees with Nel on Prof Derman's testimony (Nel called him a self-proclaimed expert) #OscarPistorius
so Roux saying this should never have been a murder case but one of CH - reinforcing it so M'lady goes that way if she finds him guilty?
#OscarPistorius Roux is on fiery form today
Roux says Proffessor Wayne Derman's testimony was backed up by research #OscarPistorius
#OscarTrial Roux challenges Nelโs claim that the shots through the door represents good grouping.
Roux questions Nel assertion that bullet holes in door were "in a good grouping", points out OP was 2metres away. @eNCAnewsExpand
#oscartrial Roux: Nel insists accused was in bathroom when firing shots - he wasn't, he was at the entrance. Mangena agreed.
Roux reckons he could get better "grouping" with 4 shots at door from close range. Nel said it implied deliberation not panic#OscarPistorius
#OscarTrial Roux: the evidence shows the accused shot from the bathroom doorway - it shows he was scared.
Roux questions Nel argument Reeva stood close to door and talked to OP in moments before shooting 'what about the screams.' #OscarTrail
Roux moves to the alarm - he says Nel argued it was both on and off when it suited him #OscarPistorius
#OscarPistorius Roux points out if OP was in control and knew who was behind toilet door, why wd he hover at the entrance as if scared?
#oscartrial Roux goes to the unhappiness deceased displayed in the whatsapps messages, but says they immediately reconciled after 7 Feb.
Roux found Babba quite entertaining in the box
#OscarPistorius Roux maintains the messages showed a loving relationship after the 'I'm scared of you ...'one. Contrary to State claim
Roux addresses OP's phone calls that night - Nel asked why OP didn't tell security to phone police #OscarPistorius
Roux says OP already phoned Stander, 911 (which is more NB than police) and he was crying #OscarPistorius
#OscarPistorius Roux addresses 'misconception' of the defence that they had 3 versions of defence
Roux says #OscarPistorius call to security guard when he said "I'm fine" is consistent with his version of events that night.
#OscarPistorius Roux: He armed himself, went to toilet, foresaw he might have to fire. He was anxious, fearful....
Roux: it's quite clear that OP foreshore that he might need to fire shots. But it's important to consider disability. @eNCAnews #OscarTrial
#OscarTrial Roux is now comparing the "slow-burn effect" of abused women to what happened to OP. (Eurgh)
Roux - you're anxious... athlete... trained to react... stands with finger ready to fire as necessary. Roux then bangs hand on table.
Roux says some instances someone who was standing with their finger on the trigger might fire if there was a sudden sound #OscarPistorius
The polar bear got a shout out
#OscarPistorius Roux: Its no magic potion. You have to interpret his evidence and say, its not 2 versions. He has a history
apologies for the spamming - it's for Dames benefit
#OscarTrial Roux when having regard to slow, burn his response to sound as athlete, was shot reflexive alone or combined with thought
Roux - when he heard that sound in vulnerable state... was that shot reflexive alone, or reflexive combined with... thought process?
#OscarTrial Judge known for being a severe sentencer when it comes to women's abuse - Roux uses this as an analogy to explain OP's fear
#OscarPistorius Roux arguing just as an abuse victim kills her abuser after many yrs, so the athlete reacted after yrs of disability
^ that is grinding my teeth
Roux: If you find his actions were reflexive then he lacked (criminal) capacity. ie #OscarPistorius didnt know what he was doing
apparently Kenny Oldwadge has an ear piece in because he's slightly deaf
Roux says if Judge believes OP meant to kill RS then she "can take a red pen" and draw a line through his entire argument. #OscarPistorius
Roux - that's what putative self defence is - that you believe you're in danger, believe you need to shoot. #OscarPistorius
#OscarTrial Oh in case you don't know what am trying to do, am avoiding murder and go for a culpable homicide verdict. #BarryRoux
Roux argues that apprehension of threat doesn't need to be reasonable to prove a case of putative self defense. @eNCAnews #OscarTrial
Judge interjects, questions how Roux example of an abused woman who snaps and kills husband is relevant to this case. @eNCAnews #OscarTrial
Judge picks up Roux's point about "slow burn" case of abused woman and asks relevance to #OscarPistorius
#OscarPistorius Roux says the athlete spent his whole life knowing he 'cdnt run away'
Wondering if Roux's move to link #OscarPistorius to abused woman has backfired. Subject close to Judge Masipa's heart.
hmmm I wonder too