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Originally Posted by fremsley:
Originally Posted by moonie:
Originally Posted by Xochi:

Hahaha! Roux off to a great start by replacing pages of his summary!  

Xochiiiiiiiiiii you snuck in quietly there

She's gonna make the final bid  

 

One krugerand  for the whole charade.

 

Display it in the Tate.

 

Satchi's frothing but it goes to a Chinese bidder. 


*wonders if Banksy will do a take of this farce trial?*

Moonie

Jeebus I was up till 2am catching up *pass me some matchsticks for my eyes

 

I hope Barry doesn't go on and on today as I could do with a nap.

 

I am getting slightly concerned that the barsteward will get a light sentence or will get off all together.  I appreciate M'Lady can't know every aspect of law but I did a double take when she asked if Nel could really use the What's app pages 

 

anyhoo Frank Moonie where's my veggie brekkie and cup of peppermint tea ? 

 

 

expect the page to be spammed today 

FM
<small class="time"> 57s</small>

Roux accuses police of pulling back curtain in photo, thus distorting real view Stipps had of home.

 

1 lie V Rensburg never touched anything

2 V R seen with hand on plug of clipper and extension cord

 

<small class="time"> 40s</small>

Roux: Van Rensburg said he was checking the linkage to the fan. But that plug has nothing to do with the fan.

 

<small class="time"> 1m</small>

Now photo from bedroom, with investigator kneeling by bed. Roux accuses state of lying twice re. evidence here.

 

photo 55 shows this according to Roux and he's quoting Nel's words from his heads of arguments 

FM
<small class="time"> 14s</small>

3rd photo - which Roux says prompted Nel "to call accused a liar" is of fan in bedroom. Much debate about who moved what.

 

<small class="time"> 18s</small>

Roux shows the court another photo of bedroom - showing the side of his bed and the plugs

 

ramming home that the extension cord wasn't made available but now State have given photo which refutes what Nel said about the extension cord 

 

<small class="time"> 18s</small>

And we're back to the famous missing extension cord - which defence insists made version of his moving the fan credible.

 

<small class="time"> 1m</small>

Nel cross examined OP at length about cords in room, place on the plugs and accused him of lying in his answers. Hence Roux focus on photos.

 

<small class="time"> 21s</small>

Roux is now showing the photo showing the extension cord that reaches the end of the bed.

 

clipper plug allegedly not plugged in so room for extension cord

 

<small class="time"> 46s</small>

Roux showing court photographs of how the crime scene was tampered with#OscarPistorius

 

<small class="time"> 54s</small>

Roux: Nel told the accused that the extension cord could not extend further. He shows a pic of it extended further. BB

FM
<small class="time"> 13s</small>

Roux again touching on objects being moved in OP's house/room - saying it isn't a conspiracy, but things were moved

 

<small class="time"> 15s</small>

Roux: we do not say there was a police conspiracy to move fans and duvets. We say it was done inadvertently.

 

Roux: the fan was not in the door early in the morning, you had to move it to get out, to work there...they picked up duvet...

 

<small class="time"> 28s</small>

This is all preamble stuff. Roux has yet to start summarising his case.

 

FM
<small class="time"> 57s</small>

Roux: Police may have moved objects such as the fans because they thought that they would not form part of the evidence

 

<small class="time"> 1m</small>

Sustained incredulity from Nel yesterday. Sustained (so far) indignation from Roux today.

 

<small class="time"> 18s</small>

Roux: several police officer say they were upstairs. Van Rensburg just dismissed them.

 

<small class="time"> 10s</small>

Roux also questioning officers testimony - some say they were alone upstairs, others say they were many offices up there

 

<small class="time"> 12s</small>

Hilton Botha due to go on trial this month for attempted murder. He and fellow officers accused of opening fire on a minibus taxi

FM
<small class="time"> 13s</small>

Roux - accuses policeman Van Rensberg of lying about presence of other officers at crime scene when tampering allegedly occured.

 

Roux: what must the court find in view of the 'cold facts'? On their own evidence it cannot be that scene was undisturbed...

 

<small class="time"> 5s</small>

In summary, at least 12 of Nel's Big Lies of OP relate to crime scene. Roux saying the scene was rubbish though

 

think Charl is already in the pub drinking his Friday evening beer 

FM
<small class="time"> 11s</small>

Roux argues that, in light of state failure to lead evidence of Botha etc, the court cannot find that OP scene was undisturbed

 

<small class="time"> 53s</small>

Roux: the state failed to present evidence which would support the defence's claim that the scene was tampered with.

 

<small class="time"> 16s</small>

Roux: Nel was wrong claiming that the perception of the accused that there was an intruder must be reasonable.

 

<small class="time"> 45s</small>

Roux urges Judge to weigh "perceptions" versus "objective facts" in case.

 

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Barry Roux does bore me but he can construct a sentence (hopefully a25 year one)     

 

<small class="time"> 35s</small>

Roux now talking about OP's 'perception of an intruder'. He repeated this over and over again. Not a recent fabrication

 

<small class="time"> 38s</small>

Roux seeks to make a strength of fact that submitted his own affidavit early - a move many have described as crucial error.

FM
<small class="time"> 29s</small>

Roux says he believes OP trial should have started with a charge of culpable homicide "and that's how it should have continued"

 

<small class="time"> 59s</small>

Roux refers to OP's fears of intruder mentioned in his bail application - even before he'd seen police docket (charges)

 

<small class="time"> 48s</small>

Roux defends defence witness Professor Derman against Nel's "so-called expert" taunts.

 

Not sure anyone could take Prof Derman seriously 

FM
<small class="time"> 1m</small>

Roux is on fiery form today

 

<small class="time"> 31s</small>

Roux says Proffessor Wayne Derman's testimony was backed up by research    

 

 

<small class="time"> 27s</small>

Roux challenges Nelโ€™s claim that the shots through the door represents good grouping.

 

<small class="time"> 5s</small>

Roux questions Nel assertion that bullet holes in door were "in a good grouping", points out OP was 2metres away. Expand

 

Roux: Nel insists accused was in bathroom when firing shots - he wasn't, he was at the entrance. Mangena agreed.

 

<small class="time"> 45s</small>

Roux reckons he could get better "grouping" with 4 shots at door from close range. Nel said it implied deliberation not panic#OscarPistorius

FM
<small class="time"> 12s</small>

Roux: the evidence shows the accused shot from the bathroom doorway - it shows he was scared.

 

<small class="time"> 42s</small>

Roux questions Nel argument Reeva stood close to door and talked to OP in moments before shooting 'what about the screams.'

FM
<small class="time"> 1m</small>

Roux says call to security guard when he said "I'm fine" is consistent with his version of events that night.

 

<small class="time"> 22s</small>

Roux: He armed himself, went to toilet, foresaw he might have to fire. He was anxious, fearful....

 

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<small class="time"> 59s</small>

Roux: it's quite clear that OP foreshore that he might need to fire shots. But it's important to consider disability.

 

<small class="time"> 22s</small>

Roux is now comparing the "slow-burn effect" of abused women to what happened to OP. (Eurgh)

 

<small class="time"> 13s</small>

Roux - you're anxious... athlete... trained to react... stands with finger ready to fire as necessary. Roux then bangs hand on table.

 

<small class="time"> 21s</small>

Roux says some instances someone who was standing with their finger on the trigger might fire if there was a sudden sound

 

 

The polar bear got a shout out 

 

<small class="time"> 26s</small>

Roux: Its no magic potion. You have to interpret his evidence and say, its not 2 versions. He has a history   

FM

apologies for the spamming - it's for Dames benefit 

 

 

<small class="time"> 24s</small>

Roux when having regard to slow, burn his response to sound as athlete, was shot reflexive alone or combined with thought

 

<small class="time"> 55s</small>

Roux - when he heard that sound in vulnerable state... was that shot reflexive alone, or reflexive combined with... thought process?

 

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Judge known for being a severe sentencer when it comes to women's abuse - Roux uses this as an analogy to explain OP's fear

 

<small class="time"> 51s</small>

Roux arguing just as an abuse victim kills her abuser after many yrs, so the athlete reacted after yrs of disability

 

^ that is grinding my teeth 

FM
<small class="time"> 1m</small>

Roux: If you find his actions were reflexive then he lacked (criminal) capacity. ie didnt know what he was doing

 

 

apparently Kenny Oldwadge has an ear piece in because he's slightly deaf 

 

<small class="time"> 1m</small>

Roux says if Judge believes OP meant to kill RS then she "can take a red pen" and draw a line through his entire argument.

 

<small class="time"> 1m</small>

Roux - that's what putative self defence is - that you believe you're in danger, believe you need to shoot.

 

<small class="time"> 2m</small>

Oh in case you don't know what am trying to do, am avoiding murder and go for a culpable homicide verdict.   

FM
<small class="time"> 1m</small>

Roux argues that apprehension of threat doesn't need to be reasonable to prove a case of putative self defense.

 

<small class="time"> 21s</small>

Judge interjects, questions how Roux example of an abused woman who snaps and kills husband is relevant to this case.

 

<small class="time"> 51s</small>

Judge picks up Roux's point about "slow burn" case of abused woman and asks relevance to

 

<small class="time"> 55s</small>

Roux says the athlete spent his whole life knowing he 'cdnt run away'

 

<small class="time"> 7s</small>

Wondering if Roux's move to link to abused woman has backfired. Subject close to Judge Masipa's heart.

 

hmmm I wonder too 

FM

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