There's a lot of "toilet talk" going on 
and concerning the phone used as a torch,...the toilet light was broken, the phone was not taken into the toilet. Why on earth use the phone to light up the bathroom which you could see in and not take it into a pitch black toilet with no light 
Originally Posted by moonie:
There's a lot of "toilet talk" going on
*filth* 
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
and concerning the phone used as a torch,...the toilet light was broken, the phone was not taken into the toilet. Why on earth use the phone to light up the bathroom which you could see in and not take it into a pitch black toilet with no light
Good point 
Originally Posted by moonie:
There's a lot of "toilet talk" going on
and I've just eaten me breakkie
#OscarTrial Nel: Iâve not seen worse expert witnesses than Dixon and Wolmarans testify in the high court. B
and I have to agree 
#OscarTrial Nel: Dixon was an expert on everything, he even used his eyes as interments to measure light. BB
Originally Posted by moonie:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by moonie:
There's a lot of "toilet talk" going on
and I've just eaten me breakkie
Oops 
from a distance 
Originally Posted by moonie:
Nel is "stumbling" 
nah...he always talks like that...
State says OP "used well calculated and rehearsed emotional outbursts to deflect attention" and avoid answering questions.@eNCAnews
I wonder if Wolmarans and Dixon are going to have another beer and talk about what a meanie that Gerrie Nel is...
#OscarTrial Nel now argues that OP shouting "get the **** out of my house" was really him screaming at Reeva.
and that is my belief too...he used the same words to the girl he was accused of assaulting and made an out of court settlement.
Nel insists that #OscarPistorius should have continued screaming after seeing RSteenkamp following shooting. Would be "normal" to do so...
#OscarTrial remember, Roux made a lot about the fact that his client screams like a woman - but presented no evidence to prove this. BB
#OscarTrial Nel: you have an expert (Derman) who did not take notes, replied on his memoryâĶ the court will not accept his evidence. BB
State argues OP actions "demonstrate pre-planning in that he armed himself, moved towards the toilet and killed the person in the toilet"
its a bit much when the prosecution are having to rush the summing up because M'lady is not free next week
#OscarTrial Nel: reading case law related to non-pathological criminal incapacityâĶ BB
RT @stugreengoblin: @AlexCrawfordSky@JTSkyNews when are we likely to get a verdict on this behemoth of a trial? Hope to have date by Fri
#OscarPistorius Nels being v polite; 'With respect mlady, its our respectful submission that tailoring evidence must have a domino effect
#OscarPistorius Now Nel rubbishing the defence witnesses especially geologist Roger Dixon who took no notes and cdnt remember key pts
Originally Posted by moonie:
Nel's good, int he?
he could make a fortune as a defence barrister...but he works for the state on a pittance compared to Roux 
#OscarTrial Nel: he fetched firearm, approached threat, but wants the court to believe the moment he pulled trigger itâs involuntary. BB
Nel argues Oscar Pistorius was "goal directed" in moments before he fired shots, says he can't claim he acted involuntarily when he fired.
Karyn MaughanâState: "OP is incapable of taking responsibility for any wrongdoing..his attitude is that he was the âvictimâ of circumstance.
Originally Posted by moonie:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by moonie:
Nel's good, int he?
he could make a fortune as a defence barrister...but he works for the state on a pittance compared to Roux
Strange that, in it Dameee?
admirable I call it Moons
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by moonie:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by moonie:
Nel's good, int he?
he could make a fortune as a defence barrister...but he works for the state on a pittance compared to Roux
Strange that, in it Dameee?
admirable I call it Moons
Barmy I call it Dameee
#OscarTrial Nel: itâs not possible that independent witnesses could make statements with that amount of corroboration. BB
#OscarTrial Nel on the credibility of the state witnesses, the neighbours - independent people, they never knew each other or the accused.
Retweeted by Barry Bateman
Oscar's "Three Defences" - putative private defence, sane automatism and mental incapacity. Which one is it?
#OscarTrial Nel: if there was consciousness, there can be no automatism. Oscar remembered events, was goal-orientated when shooting. BB
Originally Posted by moonie:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by moonie:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by moonie:
Nel's good, int he?
he could make a fortune as a defence barrister...but he works for the state on a pittance compared to Roux
Strange that, in it Dameee?
admirable I call it Moons
Barmy I call it Dameee
#OscarTrial Nel: the witnesses remained steadfast despite untested claims (Oscarâs woman screams) being put to them. BB
lunch goes to do some stuff
Originally Posted by moonie:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
lunch goes to do some stuff
When is the resumption Dameee?
an hour Moonie...sorry I had a phone call 
#OscarTrial Nel addressing the timeline - there was no screaming before the first noises, but there was before shots of 3:17am. BB
#OscarTrial Nel: we argue that the bangs of 3:16/3:17 were the gunshots that killed the deceased. BB
#OscarTrial Nel: screams started after the first sounds, and ended at the second sounds. BB
#OscarTrial Nel: even on the accused version, he screamed for intruder to get out, but nothing heard before first sounds. BB
#OscarTrial remember - defence says the 3:17 sounds were the bat hitting door. The earlier sounds were the gunshots. BB
#OscarTrial Nel moves on to gastric contentâĶ Van der Merwe heard a womanâs voice at 1:56am. BB
#OscarTrial Nel: Saaymanâs said the food in her stomach showed she ingested the food two hours prior to death - corroborates Van der Merwe.
#OscarTrial Nel: the defence acquired the services of private pathologist Reggie Perumal, but they never called him. BB
and we know why he wasn't called by Roux
#OscarTrial Nel: if the court accepts that the deceased had eaten two hours before death, the court wonât accept his version. BB
On question of why Perumal didn't testify, he and Pistorius legal team said he wasn't available for trial dates @eNCAnews #OscarTrial