Point is you can't be in multiple modes to one startle. Once he leaves the freeze mode to the first startle, he can't now rely on fight mode
Nel: Where would be the latest for the response to have effect? Derman: "I can't make head or tail of that question
exactly.....and where was the three responses? I am really confused 
his he just playing dumb or not listening
to be fair, Nel does have a habit of putting statements rather than questions - again a tactic to confuse the witness but it could backfire as this witness won't play ball and is appealing to M'lady who seems to be taking his side
she is now telling him to answer properly 
Derman: "I'm not going to answer questions that I do not actually understand." Nel: "I will attempt to rephrase it until you understand it."
be afraid, be very afraid 
That's good 
I guess this witness is not to your liking then? 
boring tailored evidence doesn't float my boat Moonie
Is it not illegal too? 
not sure, perjury is and I don't think it goes that far.
its proving it...all the defence witnesses reports have been made when one report was shot down, then they would bring another expert in Moons 
Going round in a circle then
they need to go through the steps...he's determined to stick to his evaluation and not deviating from it at all 
That's good
I guess this witness is not to your liking then?
boring tailored evidence doesn't float my boat Moonie
Is it not illegal too?
not sure, perjury is and I don't think it goes that far.
its proving it...all the defence witnesses reports have been made when one report was shot down, then they would bring another expert in Moons
isn't that part of the problem - these 'experts' are expert in things they are not testifying to and out of their remit
Sounds like an 'expert assessment' to me Pengy 
#Oscartrial Nel: An expert would be able to give the court the benefit of his experience without being so consumed with the facts
bad move for Derman to argue with M'lady
its proving it...all the defence witnesses reports have been made when one report was shot down, then they would bring another expert in Moons
Going round in a circle then
actually I am now enjoying this 
they need to go through the steps...he's determined to stick to his evaluation and not deviating from it at all
probably heavily coached that way so Roux/Oldfart don't have to object - they seem prepared to give this lamb to the pitbull on a plate
For Sezit
There you go 
OOOH. Thankyou Moonie. I am starving as I am busy with this packing mularky. I never now what to take, so I shove everything in.We are only going for 2 nights and staying in a hotel on the high street, in fact where she is having her "do". of course the weather forecast is rain, but as my sister says, "You are coming to the "Lake District" not the bloody Sahara.
Most welcome Sezit
Have a great time
they need to go through the steps...he's determined to stick to his evaluation and not deviating from it at all
probably heavily coached that way so Roux/Oldfart don't have to object - they seem prepared to give this lamb to the pitbull on a plate
do you know what the three startles were Pengy..The window, the magazine rack and the door opening, is that it? I thought the magazine rack was the same noise as the supposed door opening
and I think Oldfart is ignorant..he always refers to Nel as Nel..not very gentlemanly like in a courtroom
Oldfart finally got off his big behind 
If there wasn't a second startle, OP would have acted outside domain of flight/fight response? Derman: Not in position to know
doesn't this fall within what he's already testified to? 
they need to go through the steps...he's determined to stick to his evaluation and not deviating from it at all
probably heavily coached that way so Roux/Oldfart don't have to object - they seem prepared to give this lamb to the pitbull on a plate
do you know what the three startles were Pengy..The window, the magazine rack and the door opening, is that it? I thought the magazine rack was the same noise as the supposed door opening
and I think Oldfart is ignorant..he always refers to Nel as Nel..not very gentlemanly like in a courtroom
should be Advocate Nel and he knows it
Oldfart finally got off his big behind
If there wasn't a second startle, OP would have acted outside domain of flight/fight response? Derman: Not in position to know
doesn't this fall within what he's already testified to?
tunnel vision and only prepared to accept his own conclusion
should be Advocate Nel and he knows it
really ignorant behavior
is he refusing to answer
There you go ladies. Mid morning snack
u iz a proper gentleman Frank Moonie
Derman: "M'Lady,Mr Nel has got me really confused.I am sticking to what I said which is that there were 2other startles.I cant help further"
#flustered
There you go ladies. Mid morning snack
WOW!!! fankoo Moonie
he's got his testimony stuck in his head and can't answer any questions that deviate from what he was prepared for
#oscartrial Nel asks about accused 'armed' himself. Derman hears 'calmed'...Judge says Nel is unfair to say Derman misheard deliberately.
Nel is in danger of irritating M'lady to the extend she could give him a severe telling off
Nel: there is nowhere in the record that he ran down the passage, why would you say that?
he's made his conclusion from what he's read and OP...waste of time
#oscartrial Nel asks about accused 'armed' himself. Derman hears 'calmed'...Judge says Nel is unfair to say Derman misheard deliberately.
Nel is in danger of irritating M'lady to the extend she could give him a severe telling off
Lunch has been delayed for 5/10 minutes are they feeling all right?
Nel hammering on how the doctor got his info, implying that his report may have been tailored.
Lunch has been delayed for 5/10 minutes are they feeling all right?
Nel will not let go
#OscarTrial As Derman says "we're misunderstanding each other again" OP shakes his head, almost imperceptibly.
Lunch has been delayed for 5/10 minutes are they feeling all right?
Nel will not let go
and Oldfart now objecting again delaying matters yet more
Most welcome ladies
I am off for a while. Enjoy the rest of the trial day. See you later 
see you later Moons, have a good afternoon
#OscarTrial Nel accuses Derman of bias as he volunteers the statement that Oscar told him he was fearful.
Oldwage objects, referring Judge to record where #OscarPistorius said he ran to entrance of passage, then moved slowly down it.
bb later 
lunch
I am on catchup now.So,can anyone tell me why this "Expert" is trying to tell M'Lady (condesendingly i.m.o.) how a disabled person thinks, walks and talks when she is disabled by Polio herself?..............
I am on catchup now.So,can anyone tell me why this "Expert" is trying to tell M'Lady (condesendingly i.m.o.) how a disabled person thinks, walks and talks when she is disabled by Polio herself?..............
I'm furious about it Sezit as a disabled person - not all the problems he stated could be attributed to OP - he's used a scattergun approach and covered all bases but to me, it just confuses things
I am on catchup now.So,can anyone tell me why this "Expert" is trying to tell M'Lady (condesendingly i.m.o.) how a disabled person thinks, walks and talks when she is disabled by Polio herself?..............
I'm furious about it Sezit as a disabled person - not all the problems he stated could be attributed to OP - he's used a scattergun approach and covered all bases but to me, it just confuses things
Pengy. I am disabled too, so, I am right there with you.
If Reeva had said a word he would not have fired claims #OscarPistorius, but her daring to speak back was the problem in the first place!
can't argue with this [excuse pun]
I am on catchup now.So,can anyone tell me why this "Expert" is trying to tell M'Lady (condesendingly i.m.o.) how a disabled person thinks, walks and talks when she is disabled by Polio herself?..............
I'm furious about it Sezit as a disabled person - not all the problems he stated could be attributed to OP - he's used a scattergun approach and covered all bases but to me, it just confuses things
Pengy. I am disabled too, so, I am right there with you.
I found a lot of his testimony quite offensive and patronising to disabled people
