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Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Pengy:
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Nel now going through Oscar's own version of everything OP did on his stumps on night Reeva killed

 

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Roux objects - said that the accused's version is not that... Nel says an objective version is also a version

 

 

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Nel: My lady, the objection is not an objection. (legend)

Leg end! 

that's not very objective Yogz  

 

 

I need a wee break 

 I speak da troof!

 

Do you mean a loo break or a short break?

Yogi19
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Pengy:

Nel: you'd take the fan, move couple of centimetres ...it could happen? Versfeld reiterates the fan could be a walking aid.

 

I often use my fan as a walking aid instead of my waking stick - in fact I have even written a poem about my fan   troo I'm not making it up - did it for creative writing 

 We need to read this poem.

 

Dame_Ann_Average
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
 

His vision is not impaired.

 

 

so why did he not see her on the bed ,,,but it was pitch dark, although he saw the jeans and found the gun  he's an out and out liar 

If the quilt was in a lump, he might have thought it was Reeva.

I agree that he is a liar.

Yogi19
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
 

Did he go round the bed to get his gun or reach across it? If he went around the bed, then he wouldn't have necessarily felt Reeva in the bed.

 

the gun was under her side of the bed Yogi,,,his version 

But if he only used the edge of the bed for balance, it's unlikely that he would have felt whether Reeva was in the bed or not.

he'd have had to held right on the very edge of the bed not to have felt her and then that wouldn't have provided the balance he claims he needs when walking on stumps! 

 

 

I'm not buying it Pengy...

personally and keep in mind I'm smaller than him on his stumps   I sometimes use the edge of the bed for stability to help me round when I look out the window of a night time to see who Milo is barking at - to balance I put my palm down as just grasping the end of the bed is no use - this is why I am questioning the veracity of what Dr Versfeld is saying and what OP said in his testimony 

FM
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
 

His vision is not impaired.

 

 

so why did he not see her on the bed ,,,but it was pitch dark, although he saw the jeans and found the gun  he's an out and out liar 

If the quilt was in a lump, he might have thought it was Reeva.

I agree that he is a liar.

 

 

true...although I don't think they were even in bed...the phones made me come to that conclusion 

Dame_Ann_Average
Originally Posted by Pengy:
 

personally and keep in mind I'm smaller than him on his stumps   I sometimes use the edge of the bed for stability to help me round when I look out the window of a night time to see who Milo is barking at - to balance I put my palm down as just grasping the end of the bed is no use - this is why I am questioning the veracity of what Dr Versfeld is saying and what OP said in his testimony 

Dame_Ann_Average
Originally Posted by Pengy:
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Roux objects to Nel first referring to lighting conditions as “pitch dark” and then later as “limited light”. BB

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Masipa intervenes and asks about the blue light from the amp. Asks if he couldn't see the denim because of this.

 

 

Love it Barry the jack in a box 

I've got that Eurovison song in my head now 

FM
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Pengy:
<small class="time"> 1m</small>

Roux objects to Nel first referring to lighting conditions as “pitch dark” and then later as “limited light”. BB

<small class="time"> 1m</small>

Masipa intervenes and asks about the blue light from the amp. Asks if he couldn't see the denim because of this.

 

 

Love it Barry the jack in a box 

I've got that Eurovison song in my head now 

And now I have it in my head too!

Yogi19
Originally Posted by Yogi19:

Nel is swapping between versions, which is confusing the judge as well as me.

I think this is always a State tactic because unlike the defence who get to know before hand what the State's line of questioning will be, the defence get to tailor their evidence to refute it so confusing the witness and getting them to concede points is all part of the game although I'd not like to be a witness cross examined by either 

FM
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Pengy:
<small class="time"> 1m</small>

Roux objects to Nel first referring to lighting conditions as “pitch dark” and then later as “limited light”. BB

<small class="time"> 1m</small>

Masipa intervenes and asks about the blue light from the amp. Asks if he couldn't see the denim because of this.

 

 

Love it Barry the jack in a box 

I've got that Eurovison song in my head now 

 

 

Clodagh 

Dame_Ann_Average
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:

Nel is swapping between versions, which is confusing the judge as well as me.

I think this is always a State tactic because unlike the defence who get to know before hand what the State's line of questioning will be, the defence get to tailor their evidence to refute it so confusing the witness and getting them to concede points is all part of the game although I'd not like to be a witness cross examined by either 

I understand what you are saying.

I'd prefer to be cross examined by Barry, rather than the wasp. I think I might punch him. Metaphorically speaking, of course.

 

 

 

 

Yogi19
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:

 

 

tea break, cos the machines knackered 

 You couldn't make it up.

 

mind, unless you're testifying 

 

Originally Posted by Pengy:

Charging to 360 - stand clear   is it alive yet? 

 

Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Pengy:

Charging to 360 - stand clear   is it alive yet? 

 

*removes hands from table* 

I've been hanging out my washing.

Yogi19

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