Apparently the judge can lower the charge in South African courts by what I have been reading Yogi, its still a crime to kill a burglar if you are not under threat. I do think either way he should not be let off likely but fear he will. 

I can't also accept he was that terrified, he had left the patio doors open to sleep...he got up to close them and bring the fans in just before the shooting, so that doesn't really wash with me he was that terrified or surely he would make sure his bedroom was secure before he went to sleep.  

I'm not colluding with you Roger... we iz on the internet, don't be roping me into your dodgy past 

*Goes on the run with Aimee*

*phones crime stoppers hoping for a reward*  I'm convinced John Lewis or Curry's are willing to pay out big bucks 

who in their right minds takes a gun to a restaurant?  then passes it to an eejit (it's one up don't forget) and then it gets discharged and the entire restaurant thinks it's something to do with the kitchen and carry on munching  

As for Aimee and her callous disregard for the safety of her white goods   guilty M'Lady take the prisoner down 

So, you can be tried and found not guilty of murder, but then the judge can introduce a lower charge and find you guilty of that? 

I found it strange that there seemed to be a heightened perception of burglary within the community where Oscar lived and yet so many of the witnesses mentioned sleeping with the doors to the balcony/windows left open. Maybe the oppressive heat overrides the safety issue, and of course, having a gun (which so many of them seem to have) may make you feel safe enough to open the windows and balcony doors.

This about sums it up Yogi,

In South Africa, premeditated murder carries a mandatory life sentence, with a minimum of 25 years. Pistorius also could get five years for each gun indictment and 15 years for the firearms charge.
If he isn't convicted of premeditated murder, the sprinter could face a lesser charge of culpable homicide, a crime based on negligence, and could be looking at up to 15 years on that charge, experts said. The trial is expected to take at least three weeks.

Also, as far as I am aware there had been no reports of burglaries, break-ins or murders on his complex. 

Thanks Dame for the info.

Sorry, I wasn't saying there had been burgalries where Oscar lived, just that I had read that there is a heightened perception of burgalry within the community - it might have meant the middle class community rather than Oscar's complex specifically. It was mentioned when Witness No.1 and her hubby immediately presumed that it was a burgalry and not a domestic violence situation. Might not have been mentioned in court, I might have read it elsewhere. My head is fried with this case.

the amount of white goods Aimee's trashed I'm sure she's on both of their Christmas card lists...

I didn't take it that way Yogi  I understand there is a massive problem with crime in SA, I had already had a look about on the net about crimes in his complex and as far as I am aware it was a very safe gated community..that's not to say you still wouldn't be paranoid. 

I still think if you were that paranoid you would make sure your patio doors were locked before you went to sleep, but it seems on this complex they were quite comfortable and relaxed enough to sleep with the patio doors open. 

Whoever said that today's witness, Darren Fresco, was tailoring his evidence to protect himself, was spot on. He was amending and omitting evidence and suffering from selective memory syndrome to suit his own agenda, imo.

Apparently he did not volunteer as a witness, he was obliged to appear. 

BBC Twitter guy noted that the state's non-expert witnesses have all seemed reluctant to admit any hint of ambiguity and asks, ' Coincidence or strategy?'.

Imo, that does not apply to the radiologist but does apply to the others.

The bit I find disturbing is OP's ( not Aimee ) apparent tendency to fire his gun at the drop of a hat ! I'm afraid I find his whole story very dubious ....and, given that  would  probably convicted him by now .

 That's not how it works, you have to listen to all the evidence before deciding if he is innocent or guilty.

spoilsport.   I convicted him months ago...   and also acknowledged that he'll probably walk free 

Ditto ,

yep.. highly strung, aggressive, gun loving nutjob.... scary combination. 

Not that I pre judge you undersand 

No, but it's much more fun.....CON(VICT) him I say ....* goes to phone conviction line* ,

Exactly....,

Hear, hear, and although everyone reacts differently, wouldn't most people, if they heard what they thought was  a burglar, say something to their partner such as 'I heard a noise from the bathroom, did you hear anything?' Then maybe listen a bit and make a bit of noise to put them off rather than go straight into the room to shoot them to smithereens?  I really do think his story is beyond even considering as possible.

It's lonely being on the run

serves you right for being lethal to white goods  

Originally Posted by Aimee:

It's lonely being on the run

serves you right for being lethal to white goods  

,

It's lonely being on the run

I'm on the run too Aimee 

Apparently theres a reward out. Thanks for that, Dame! 

Originally Posted by Aimee:

It's lonely being on the run

I'm on the run too Aimee 

Apparently theres a reward out. Thanks for that, Dame! 

My pleasure I hope Roger 

Originally Posted by Roger the Alien:

Originally Posted by Aimee:

It's lonely being on the run

I'm on the run too Aimee 

Apparently theres a reward out. Thanks for that, Dame! 

 

 

My pleasure I hope Roger 

 Grass!  I'm reviving the economy, buying new laptops every six months...  

Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:

Originally Posted by Roger the Alien:

Originally Posted by Aimee:

It's lonely being on the run

I'm on the run too Aimee 

Apparently theres a reward out. Thanks for that, Dame! 

 

 

My pleasure I hope Roger 

 Grass!  I'm reviving the economy, buying new laptops every six months...  

Mea culpa, just bought my 3rd laptop (on ebay, I hasten to add, can't afford a new one) in 14 months and the 3rd microwave in 2 years.

although there might be a smidgen of truth in your post... where are you hiding out? I need your address to send your birthday card 

How much is the reward? 

if you find her I'll tell share it with you

 Oh how thoughtful! 

 It's a deal!

Originally Posted by Roger the Alien:

Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:

Originally Posted by Roger the Alien:

Originally Posted by Aimee:

It's lonely being on the run

I'm on the run too Aimee 

Apparently theres a reward out. Thanks for that, Dame! 

 

 

My pleasure I hope Roger 

 Grass!  I'm reviving the economy, buying new laptops every six months...  

Mea culpa, just bought my 3rd laptop (on ebay, I hasten to add, can't afford a new one) in 14 months and the 3rd microwave in 2 years.

Thats my girl Cologne  

I'm renowned for it  where did you say you and Aims are hiding staying? 

Originally Posted by cologne 1:

Originally Posted by Roger the Alien:

Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:

Originally Posted by Roger the Alien:

Originally Posted by Aimee:

It's lonely being on the run

I'm on the run too Aimee 

Apparently theres a reward out. Thanks for that, Dame! 

 

 

My pleasure I hope Roger 

 Grass!  I'm reviving the economy, buying new laptops every six months...  

Mea culpa, just bought my 3rd laptop (on ebay, I hasten to add, can't afford a new one) in 14 months and the 3rd microwave in 2 years.

Thats my girl Cologne  

 It's like a contagious disease! I better not catch it.