#oscartrial Vorster says there can be no harm in referring the accused, the court would get another opinion...
is this Roux's plan to get OP observed to avoid jail?
I'm not sure Pengy...I don't know what Roux is playing at
#oscartrial Vorster says there can be no harm in referring the accused, the court would get another opinion...
is this Roux's plan to get OP observed to avoid jail?
I'm not sure Pengy...I don't know what Roux is playing at
Roux reads Act - if it is alleged that accused is not criminally responsible due to mental disorder, the court shall refer him #oscartrial
I can't get the Dr Foster nursery rhyme out of my brain
Ha ha Nel's phone went off
Nel's not going to let this go is he
Ha ha Nel's phone went off
I keep thinking about that flipping rhyme too
Gerrie Nel is in the process of a legal argument and his phone goes off. "My Lady that is my phone... I will never forgive myself."
Judgie said don't promise that it won't happen again as it just might
is this changing his defence...cos I'm bloody lost
I may be right about this case not ending tomorrow, it may end today.
I have a feeling he'll be carted off today as with all due respectboth sides should have arranged for him to be psych evaluated
is this changing his defence...cos I'm bloody lost
it is - the 4th I believe and I called it apparently though it's the least likely to work in SA but I think they've seen how well Dewani has played this so it's the last chance saloon
is this changing his defence...cos I'm bloody lost
it is - the 4th I believe and I called it apparently though it's the least likely to work in SA but I think they've seen how well Dewani has played this so it's the last chance saloon
I still think he will be found fit to be sentenced...he's been socializing and holidaying
Roux says it must be an allegation... Nel says it's more than an allegation, the psychiatrist has made a finding, a diagnosis #oscartrial
bang on Gerrie
#OscarTrial Advocate Kenny Oldwadge is back in court after being absent for more than a week. BB
he's eaten all the pies as he's so stressed - in fact I think he may have GAD or possibly PTSD - depends on which defence route he decides to take
Nel says anxiety was presented as a mental disorder, so it is a mental illness #oscartrial ...he confers with colleagues.
don't think Judgie will concede this one
Nel says anxiety was presented as a mental disorder, so it is a mental illness #oscartrial ...he confers with colleagues.
don't think Judgie will concede this one
I think she's lost like us
but he wasn't attacked Roux...he was the attacker
Nel: if disorder affects his capacity to act in accordance with understanding of right, wrong, it would be grounds for referral #oscartrial
Nel: if disorder affects his capacity to act in accordance with understanding of right, wrong, it would be grounds for referral #oscartrial
Nel says anxiety was presented as a mental disorder, so it is a mental illness #oscartrial ...he confers with colleagues.
don't think Judgie will concede this one
I think she's lost like us
yeah it wasn't ringing any bells with her [although copious amounts of whiskey will do that to you] but Nel was right Dr Vorster did say that
Nel argues "mental disorder" could have affected his ability to act. #Pistorius family psychologist in public gallery shakes head vigorously
yeah it wasn't ringing any bells with her [although copious amounts of whiskey will do that to you] but Nel was right Dr Vorster did say that
yes she did
Nel argues "mental disorder" could have affected his ability to act. #Pistorius family psychologist in public gallery shakes head vigorously
well if the psychologist deals with that family, more than likely they are off their trolley too
I think this woman just tied the judgie's hands
Order been applied for as David Dadic called it
Nel: the defence has now caused the accused to be referred for observation. That will be my application, my lady. #oscartrial
Roux and the team look worried, have they bitten off more than they can chew with this witness?
yep
Roux and the team look worried, have they bitten off more than they can chew with this witness?
I said this would come back to bite them..I think Roux has been led by an expert and he's not up to the master
Third defence. As I said.
not 4th as I said but ....
Third defence. As I said.
not 4th as I said but ....
its going to go on forever...he can't change yet another defence or can he
Nel says the basis of Section 78 of the Criminal Procedure Act is to help the court. #OscarTrial
so Roux was trying to avoid OP being psych evaluated - perhaps he knew it would show OP to be the liar he is conclusively
she's been the most honest witness for the defence so far...using her expertise and not showing any bias
Can't imagine Roux had this in his thinking when he said this would be over tomorrow. This has gone sideways.
Nel: "My lady, this will be my argument... I feel strongly... I'm sure it wasn't Mr Roux's intention to have his client referred" #Pistorius
Gerrie Nel says he hasn't had time to read the full report but he "feels strongly" about this and will explain his applic in greater length
OP is screwed and this trial will resume I bet after OP has been evaluated
Nel says the basis of Section 78 of the Criminal Procedure Act is to help the court. #OscarTrial
so Roux was trying to avoid OP being psych evaluated - perhaps he knew it would show OP to be the liar he is conclusively
I think Roux is in a panic
On the bright side for #OscarPistorius, Nel appears not to think he is a psychopath.
*snorts*
Can't imagine Roux had this in his thinking when he said this would be over tomorrow. This has gone sideways.
Nel: "My lady, this will be my argument... I feel strongly... I'm sure it wasn't Mr Roux's intention to have his client referred" #Pistorius
Gerrie Nel says he hasn't had time to read the full report but he "feels strongly" about this and will explain his applic in greater length
OP is screwed and this trial will resume I bet after OP has been evaluated
my thinking too Pengy
If #OscarPistorius referred for mental observation, he will spend 30 days being psychiatrically evaluated in state mental hospital@eNCAnews
so at the very least he'll be carted away for 30 days then they'll need to do reports and then the case will resume - bet Barry really regrets taking on this case
it's been a cracker of a day [not forgetting about Reeva]
someone posted this and I had a lololol moment on my own
Nel toying with his glasses = sexy. Guy behind Nel toying with his glasses = not so sexy.
Pistorius defence lawyer Brain Webber is looking -- and there's no other word for this -- crushed
Vorster: No evidence of amnesia. His reaction was normal. #Pistorius
think everyone bar OP knows this is over - he'll have his breakdown whilst in hospital - the one I predicted #Icalledit
If #OscarPistorius referred for mental observation, he will spend 30 days being psychiatrically evaluated in state mental hospital@eNCAnews
so at the very least he'll be carted away for 30 days then they'll need to do reports and then the case will resume - bet Barry really regrets taking on this case
it's been a cracker of a day [not forgetting about Reeva]
oh bugger...he'll miss his Uncles pad
think everyone bar OP knows this is over - he'll have his breakdown whilst in hospital - the one I predicted #Icalledit
The psychiatrist agrees with Nel that by arming himself and approaching the danger he must have foresaw the possibility of shooting.
Barry Bateman â@barrybateman <small class="time"> 1m</small>
#OscarTrial that last one was significant for Nel - dolus eventualis. BB
and to think she's a DEFENCE witness
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