Read on the BBC Twitter guy's page that the extra charges were introduced as a means of introducing extra witnesses (ex girlfriend, restaurant owner and his wife etc) to discredit Oscar's character. He said the state cannot character assassinate murder defendants and this was a sneaky way of doing it.

Interesting that the ex girlfriend stated that Oscar could move around on his stumps but needed to hold onto things for balance.

I thought the radiologist was a very credible witness yesterday.

I think Oscar will say that he told the security man that "I'm fine" and not "everything is fine". That's where Roux seemed to be going with his cross examination today. 

I can't understand why Oscar phoned his friend and not an ambulance.

 

 

Even if Roux says OP said he was fine, the question is why did he not say Reeva wasn't and needed help Whoever was in the bathroom he meant to kill them, you don't fire 4 shots into a cubicle to scare someone off. I am just not sure who he meant to harm and will wait to see when all the evidence is presented Yogi. Although for the life of me I can't understand why he didn't ask her if she heard noises, I know that's the first thing I would have done. 

I think Roux will argue that Oscar was so distraught that he didn't know what he was saying. The radiologist did say Oscar was distraught and attempting to open Reeva's airways and stem the bleeding from the thigh injury when he arrived. When the radiologist said he was a doctor, Oscar begged him to save her life. So much of the evidence doesn't add up, and supports neither the state nor the defence theories.

 

its all very  although all the witnesses so far have said there was raised voices, so at some point it seems they did have a disagreement or row. I thought the prosecution had the best of the day today Yogi, but it will be swings and roundabouts until the end I think, with some questions never being answered. 

I think the prosecution definitely painted a picture of someone who was a bit cavalier around guns. I'll be interested to hear the forensic evidence - although those experts will probably giving conflicting theories too.

 

 

 

I need a translator for the translator too  

 Me too!

And too...

 

 

its hard work Moons...and why translate M'lady into M'lady when its the same in Afrikaans as bloody English   

Of course once again there is no provision for sign language users. Why don't they have a sign language 'terp? Can't they get that gadjie from the Mandella event ?

 We'd be here 10 years from now.

I love the way the security guard said that he heard gun shots coming from Oscar Pistorius's house then rang him and asked "is everything alright there"...yeah, because you always hear gunfire in someones home and everything is fine.

 

I would have taken a leap of faith and assumed that everything was NOT alright after hearing gunfire in someones home late at night.

I said that on the previous page and you all ignored me 

 

I'll say again, asking the person or telling them in Roux's case repeated should surely be deemed as badgering the witness????? 

It seems that way - its a wonder he hasn't been warned. Think the judge only said "You've exhausted this" to him or something. 

 

 

Totally agree with you Pengy and I didn't mean to ignore you   It was early days in the trial, if this is his tactics he may fall flat on his face. Not every witness can be wrong, especially when they corroborate other witness statements  Like you I know nothing of the SA courts and how far they can push witnesses, I doubt very much this line of questioning would be allowed in this country or the US. 

 

I hope Roux backs up some of his statements when its his turn to present the defences case instead of accusations and hot air. I find him very irritating too

 

 

Interesting development...I find OP's lack of memory in this instance totally unbelievable

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...ius-iPhone-code.html

 

 

Very suspicious isn't it Dame?  Hopefully Apple can unlock the data.

 

I just don't believe he doesn't remember his phones password, considering the amount of times its been mentioned how he's never without his phones. It may be completely innocent but the forgotten password just does not ring true Rosie. 

Selective amnesia Dameee

 

 

I concur Moonie 

One thing I've taken from the first week of this trial, is that Oscar Pistorius has a hell of a lot of neighbours.

the Sky analysis bloke Dr Llewellyn Curlewis who happens to be a big shot in Gauteng Provence reckons that Thursday and Friday the prosecution had the best day but of course it can all turn on a sixpence with other witnesses 

 

I'm not holding out on Roux doing a Perry Mason moment...I think it will be more flannel and assumptions. There are just too many questions in my head, and the fact OP's statement changed quite a bit of his original statement. Reeva was asleep in his first statement, now its changed to he spoke to her before he went for the fans...well, why the hell did he not speak to her before he shot 4 times into the toilet.   

The thing is, if Roux can a bit like the Casey Anthony case, provide just a smidgeon of doubt in the Judge's eyes, he could get off but I agree with everything you've said  

 

he could still face jail Pengy, I think SA law states that unless his life was in danger it is still a crime to kill a burglar..and he certainly wasn't being threatened by someone locked in a loo  I just can't get my head around him just shooting Reeva or as he states thinking it was a burglar locked in a toilet. its not how I would expect people to react without even speaking to the person you're with! If he felt that much in danger, why not warn her if as he states he thought she was in bed..its odd behavior 

very odd.

 

The South African press are I believe also taking the view that what happened is typical of South African domestic violence and also there's the racist implications (their words) about how every crime committed in the country is automatically by a black man 

 

at the very least he should take some responsibility even if it was an accident, for at the very leasts his reckless and gung ho approach with a weapon...the more I read and the more I hear I'm not sure what to believe. My head tells me that he couldn't possibly murder her and think it was easy to get away with..his behavior afterwards makes me think he tried to cover it up, accident or deliberate I don't know, I am however convinced he will serve little or no time Pengy

I'm way behind here, (only watched day 1,) but assumed he was trying to suggest that it was the cricket bat rather than the shots that the first witness heard and that it was OP's screaming that she heard, rather than Reeva's.

Tbh, I really don't need to see any more to make my mind up, I think Op's burglar story is so far fetched to even begin to be credible, about as believable as him not remembering the pin no for his iphone. Utter tosh

And as for the defence lawyer's treatment of the witness: absolutely despicable, mind you, even the judge spoke to her as if she was a piece of shit on her shoe, you'd think she was the person on trial for murder not OP. Have to take my hat off to the witness 'though: hard to keep your cool and not get tied in knots when you're treated as she was, she did very well

I agree Supes 

 

I was being polite when I said I'd reserve judgement because I think he's as guilty as hell but I have a fear he could get off 

 

 

Am I the only one who initially thought OP in any comments meant original post not Oscar Pistorius?  

I bet he did, given the consequences for him!

 

 

well...I certainly agree with all of that  I thought I was the only one that thought the  defence story was an utter farce... two guard dogs out int the garden and not a bark... yet someone sneaked in to rob him and then locked themselves in the loo....its incredible 

Yup, clever,expensive lawyers Pengy, if this was JP, (Joe Public) on trial they'd not have a chance of walking imo. Mind you, that judge didn't seem the brightest button in the box, she didn't seem to have a clue what that Roux fella was getting at 

 

 

I actually sat and listened to the first witnesses testimony gain yesterday... and I am totally convinced she was telling the truth. Roux made me doubt it with his constant badgering at first, now listening to it again I am sure she told the truth as she could recall it. The poor woman was not on trial, had nothing to gain by coming forward and only to be treat worse than OP in court  

Dame, it's utterly laughable imo, about as believable as 'the dog ate my homework miss' 

 

but I too fear he's going to walk away from this Supes, sadly 

I agree ....,

Couldn't agree with you more, how she kept her cool I'll never know, but give her her due she just kept saying the same thing over and over to his questions, (what she clearly remembered,) however much he tried to twist things and intimidate her. 

I just don't get why upon thinking he heard a noise would he not check properly that his gf wasn't still in the bed.  Then why would you not think that the noise could be coming from her?  If he thought someone was in the bathroom, why not call out asking if it was Reeva - surely she'd have said yes and all would have been well.  Instead he gets a gun and/or a cricket bat and fires in the bathroom, no warning shot just immediately through the door - that to me shows his intent was to kill not wound or frighten off someone.  Also if you had the chance to escape, which apparently he could through the bedroom, why not do so rather than progressing forward to the source of the possible intruder.  He could have made his way to neighbours to raise the alarm - I'm sure even if he was not wearing his prosthetic legs he could have managed this as others have affirmed that he could be quite mobile on his stumps?

 

His whole story just doesn't add up