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Originally posted by Jeggo:
Don`t go to the other extreme - No but Jack Tweed`s reputation goes before him.

Still think that its obvious that when you leave a club with the likes of Jack Tweed and his mates and go to a private address they aren`t just taking you there for a cup of coffee.


She may have fancied one of the blokes. She may have been with some friends and they were all invited back to carry on partying. I don't think that is unusual.

Whatever led up to it, if it was a sexual assault, the victim does not, ever, deserve to be told that they should take responsibility.
Blizz'ard
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Originally posted by ContessaQ:
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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
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Originally posted by Cinds:
Daniel I totally heard her voice in my head when I read that. Laugh

Awww, bless her. Smiler


β€œI could smell Jade like she was standing there next to me - the feeling was incredible,” said Jackiey after the sΓ©ance.

kebab anyone?


*falls off chair laughing* Laugh
Cinds
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Originally posted by Blizzie:
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Originally posted by Jeggo:
Don`t go to the other extreme - No but Jack Tweed`s reputation goes before him.

Still think that its obvious that when you leave a club with the likes of Jack Tweed and his mates and go to a private address they aren`t just taking you there for a cup of coffee.


She may have fancied one of the blokes. She may have been with some friends and they were all invited back to carry on partying. I don't think that is unusual.

Whatever led up to it, if it was a sexual assault, the victim does not, ever, deserve to be told that they should take responsibility.


Clapping

Im leaving this thread now
kazzy
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Originally posted by Blizzie:
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Originally posted by Jeggo:
Don`t go to the other extreme - No but Jack Tweed`s reputation goes before him.

Still think that its obvious that when you leave a club with the likes of Jack Tweed and his mates and go to a private address they aren`t just taking you there for a cup of coffee.


She may have fancied one of the blokes. She may have been with some friends and they were all invited back to carry on partying. I don't think that is unusual.

Whatever led up to it, if it was a sexual assault, the victim does not, ever, deserve to be told that they should take responsibility.


Clapping

a woman is entitled to go to a blokes house and not end up being raped,sexually assaulted etc...

no means no.....going back to a blokes house...whether it's jack tweed or not does not mean 'i'm up for it'.

it's like saying 'well she was wearing a short skirt,make up and was a bit flirty so she was asking for it'.....
SS
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Originally posted by Jeggo:
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Originally posted by Lacey:
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Originally posted by Jeggo:
What gets me is - why would a girl leave a night club and go to a private address with Jack Tweed and his mates - surely anyone knows there is only one outcome. Unless she was drugged of course.
Thing is Jeggo, this girl is "17" apparently.... and in my opinion leaving a club with a bloke and his mates and going to a private address doesn't make it obvious that you're going to be raped.

That's a very sweeping statement.


I was very careful not to make a sweeping statement, just asking if people are really that naive. And I disagree with you - I think it goes without saying that its obvious you are going to be involved in some sort of sordid sex activity - do people still think they`re invited back to private addresses to `look at my etchings`? There is a responsibility on both sides.


"surely anyone knows there is only one outcome. Unless she was drugged of course" in my opinion this IS a sweeping statement and I disagree with you.

"it goes without saying that it is obvious you re going to be involved in some sort of sordid sex activity" My god? Back many moons ago when I was 17/18 whatever I went back to peoples houses to carry on partying.....I'm not saying she wasn't being slightly Naive... but saying she should have known what she was asking for is not on... IMO of course.

Also maybe she wanted to be with a load of Z listers, do some coke and sleep with one of them...her parogative.....but Rape is a completely different thing altogether and no one ever asks for that.
Lacey
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Originally posted by Lacey:
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Originally posted by Jeggo:
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Originally posted by Lacey:
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Originally posted by Jeggo:
What gets me is - why would a girl leave a night club and go to a private address with Jack Tweed and his mates - surely anyone knows there is only one outcome. Unless she was drugged of course.
Thing is Jeggo, this girl is "17" apparently.... and in my opinion leaving a club with a bloke and his mates and going to a private address doesn't make it obvious that you're going to be raped.

That's a very sweeping statement.


I was very careful not to make a sweeping statement, just asking if people are really that naive. And I disagree with you - I think it goes without saying that its obvious you are going to be involved in some sort of sordid sex activity - do people still think they`re invited back to private addresses to `look at my etchings`? There is a responsibility on both sides.


"surely anyone knows there is only one outcome. Unless she was drugged of course" in my opinion this IS a sweeping statement and I disagree with you.

"it goes without saying that it is obvious you re going to be involved in some sort of sordid sex activity" My god? Back many moons ago when I was 17/18 whatever I went back to peoples houses to carry on partying.....I'm not saying she wasn't being slightly Naive... but saying she should have known what she was asking for is not on... IMO of course.

Also maybe she wanted to be with a load of Z listers, do some coke and sleep with one of them...her parogative.....but Rape is a completely different thing altogether and no one ever asks for that.


We`ll have to agree to disagree on this one I think.
Jeggo (Ben`s Buddy/Member of JJ`s LS]
Suppose we will have to wait and see what the outcome is

Reserve judgement untill then,there are others involved too it does not sound to good for him at the minute

Recent years there has been alot of people in celebrity world who have had to answer to charge of rape,and it came to nothing,so its hard to say.If the girl was raped my heart goes out to her at 17 years of age.

to go through nursing and watching a loved one die of cancer is such a horrendous experience,then dealing with grief after a loved one dies is a rollercoster of emotions,dark days and at 21 i did feel for him.

Now he stands accused of rape a disgusting crime look at what john leslie went through,and many others

Will have to wait and see its not looking too good at minute though.
C
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Originally posted by Jeggo:
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Originally posted by Blizzie:
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Originally posted by Jeggo:
I was very careful not to make a sweeping statement, just asking if people are really that naive. And I disagree with you - I think it goes without saying that its obvious you are going to be involved in some sort of sordid sex activity - do people still think they`re invited back to private addresses to `look at my etchings`? There is a responsibility on both sides.


Confused

So, we must presume that all men are rapists? Glance


Don`t go to the other extreme - No but Jack Tweed`s reputation goes before him.

Still think that its obvious that when you leave a club with the likes of Jack Tweed and his mates and go to a private address they aren`t just taking you there for a cup of coffee.


Ok, we take the point, but even if she went there with the intent of having consentual sex with one of the men, if at any time she changed her mind and said no and they carried on, no means no, not maybe

We don't know the full details of the story yet, and can't really comment, but with Tweedy's track record, he doesn't look good for him.
β™₯PinkBabe1966β™₯The Angel under the tree!
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Originally posted by cup:
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Originally posted by Lil misz:
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Originally posted by Cinds:
Jade is not happy with his behaviour since she died Eeker
beyond the grave
She'll be doing beyond the grave interviews for OK! next.Eeker


jackie also said she seen jades full image in the sky among the clouds and she thinks she might be with Michael Jackson,and is hoping to see his image. Eeker


Sorry to the Jade fans, but what planet is Jackiey on????? I understand her grieving, but that is just plain stupid.
β™₯PinkBabe1966β™₯The Angel under the tree!
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Originally posted by cup:
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Originally posted by Lil misz:
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Originally posted by Cinds:
Jade is not happy with his behaviour since she died Eeker
beyond the grave
She'll be doing beyond the grave interviews for OK! next.Eeker


jackie also said she seen jades full image in the sky among the clouds and she thinks she might be with Michael Jackson,and is hoping to see his image. Eeker



Planet Publicity at Any Price...is a strange place Crazy
Kaytee
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Originally posted by PinkBabe1966:
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Originally posted by cup:
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Originally posted by Lil misz:
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Originally posted by Cinds:
Jade is not happy with his behaviour since she died Eeker
beyond the grave
She'll be doing beyond the grave interviews for OK! next.Eeker


jackie also said she seen jades full image in the sky among the clouds and she thinks she might be with Michael Jackson,and is hoping to see his image. Eeker


Sorry to the Jade fans, but what planet is Jackiey on????? I understand her grieving, but that is just plain stupid.


Must be those clouds in tenerife different than the ones here. Razzer
C
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Originally posted by cup:
Suppose we will have to wait and see what the outcome is

Reserve judgement untill then,there are others involved too it does not sound to good for him at the minute

Recent years there has been alot of people in celebrity world who have had to answer to charge of rape,and it came to nothing,so its hard to say.If the girl was raped my heart goes out to her at 17 years of age.

to go through nursing and watching a loved one die of cancer is such a horrendous experience,then dealing with grief after a loved one dies is a rollercoster of emotions,dark days and at 21 i did feel for him.

Now he stands accused of rape a disgusting crime look at what john leslie went through,and many others

Will have to wait and see its not looking too good at minute though.


jack loved jade: Laugh
john leslie, no smoke without fire with him.
ContessaQ
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Originally posted by Lacey:
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Originally posted by Jeggo:
What gets me is - why would a girl leave a night club and go to a private address with Jack Tweed and his mates - surely anyone knows there is only one outcome. Unless she was drugged of course.
Thing is Jeggo, this girl is "17" apparently.... and in my opinion leaving a club with a bloke and his mates and going to a private address doesn't make it obvious that you're going to be raped.

That's a very sweeping statement.


Jeez if I'd had a penny for every time I'd 'gone back somewhere' after clubbing! (never raped 'though)
FM
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Originally posted by Jeggo:
Still think that its obvious that when you leave a club with the likes of Jack Tweed and his mates and go to a private address they aren`t just taking you there for a cup of coffee.

No, you'd probably think you were going back for a house-party, as will be happening tonight for 1000s of young people the length and breadth of the country
FM
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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
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Originally posted by Lacey:
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Originally posted by Jeggo:
What gets me is - why would a girl leave a night club and go to a private address with Jack Tweed and his mates - surely anyone knows there is only one outcome. Unless she was drugged of course.
Thing is Jeggo, this girl is "17" apparently.... and in my opinion leaving a club with a bloke and his mates and going to a private address doesn't make it obvious that you're going to be raped.

That's a very sweeping statement.


Jeez if I'd had a penny for every time I'd 'gone back somewhere' after clubbing! (never raped 'though)
yep! Exactly! After a few "drinks" back in the day I was up for carrying the proceedings on well after the "club" "rave"! Glance and I did too on many occasions, sometimes with people I didn't know. Nod

Never for sex (Glance) but even if it was for that not that I did, I say when, I say who, I say how....I say yes and I say no..... Nod
Lacey
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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
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Originally posted by Jeggo:
Still think that its obvious that when you leave a club with the likes of Jack Tweed and his mates and go to a private address they aren`t just taking you there for a cup of coffee.

No, you'd probably think you were going back for a house-party, as will be happening tonight for 1000s of young people the length and breadth of the country


Probably, and the fact that there were at least 3 other girls there would have made her think of a party rather than sex.
Cinds
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Originally posted by cup:
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Originally posted by PinkBabe1966:
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Originally posted by cup:
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Originally posted by Lil misz:
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Originally posted by Cinds:
Jade is not happy with his behaviour since she died Eeker
beyond the grave
She'll be doing beyond the grave interviews for OK! next.Eeker


jackie also said she seen jades full image in the sky among the clouds and she thinks she might be with Michael Jackson,and is hoping to see his image. Eeker


Sorry to the Jade fans, but what planet is Jackiey on????? I understand her grieving, but that is just plain stupid.


Must be those clouds in tenerife different than the ones here. Razzer



β™₯PinkBabe1966β™₯The Angel under the tree!
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Originally posted by Lacey:
Jeez if I'd had a penny for every time I'd 'gone back somewhere' after clubbing! (never raped 'though)
yep! Exactly! After a few "drinks" back in the day I was up for carrying the proceedings on well after the "club" "rave"! Glance and I did too on many occasions, sometimes with people I didn't know. Nod

Never for sex (Glance) but even if it was for that not that I did, I say when, I say who, I say how....I say yes and I say no..... Nod[/QUOTE]

Me too, (including with minor-celebs/football/rugby player's etc.)..And...EXACTLY
FM
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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
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Originally posted by Cinds:
Probably, and the fact that there were at least 3 other girls there would have made her think of a party rather than sex.

Where's that bit of info come from? I've looked all over for it.


I read it in a newspaper today when I was at the barber with my son. I'll have a look to see if I can find it online.
Cinds
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Originally posted by ContessaQ:
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Originally posted by cup:
Suppose we will have to wait and see what the outcome is

Reserve judgement untill then,there are others involved too it does not sound to good for him at the minute

Recent years there has been alot of people in celebrity world who have had to answer to charge of rape,and it came to nothing,so its hard to say.If the girl was raped my heart goes out to her at 17 years of age.

to go through nursing and watching a loved one die of cancer is such a horrendous experience,then dealing with grief after a loved one dies is a rollercoster of emotions,dark days and at 21 i did feel for him.

Now he stands accused of rape a disgusting crime look at what john leslie went through,and many others

Will have to wait and see its not looking too good at minute though.


jack loved jade: Laugh
john leslie, no smoke without fire with him.


but john leslie had his day in court when accused of rape and was found not gulity.

Wonder is jack still under probation rules.And they had to hold him in custody because of this.
C
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Originally posted by cup:
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Originally posted by ContessaQ:
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Originally posted by cup:
Suppose we will have to wait and see what the outcome is

Reserve judgement untill then,there are others involved too it does not sound to good for him at the minute

Recent years there has been alot of people in celebrity world who have had to answer to charge of rape,and it came to nothing,so its hard to say.If the girl was raped my heart goes out to her at 17 years of age.

to go through nursing and watching a loved one die of cancer is such a horrendous experience,then dealing with grief after a loved one dies is a rollercoster of emotions,dark days and at 21 i did feel for him.

Now he stands accused of rape a disgusting crime look at what john leslie went through,and many others

Will have to wait and see its not looking too good at minute though.


jack loved jade: Laugh
john leslie, no smoke without fire with him.


but john leslie had his day in court when accused of rape and was found not gulity.

Wonder is jack still under probation rules.And they had to hold him in custody because of this.


so jl was found not guilty of rape, he is still a menace to women, he likes to play rough and uses his zleb status to get women into bed.
there were a few women that came forward and said he had hurt them.
ContessaQ
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Originally posted by ContessaQ:
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Originally posted by cup:
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Originally posted by ContessaQ:
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Originally posted by cup:
Suppose we will have to wait and see what the outcome is

Reserve judgement untill then,there are others involved too it does not sound to good for him at the minute

Recent years there has been alot of people in celebrity world who have had to answer to charge of rape,and it came to nothing,so its hard to say.If the girl was raped my heart goes out to her at 17 years of age.

to go through nursing and watching a loved one die of cancer is such a horrendous experience,then dealing with grief after a loved one dies is a rollercoster of emotions,dark days and at 21 i did feel for him.

Now he stands accused of rape a disgusting crime look at what john leslie went through,and many others

Will have to wait and see its not looking too good at minute though.


jack loved jade: Laugh
john leslie, no smoke without fire with him.


but john leslie had his day in court when accused of rape and was found not gulity.

Wonder is jack still under probation rules.And they had to hold him in custody because of this.


so jl was found not guilty of rape, he is still a menace to women, he likes to play rough and uses his zleb status to get women into bed.
there were a few women that came forward and said he had hurt them.


The woman acussing people should be held to account for their actions,and yes john leslie was no saint.Had everything going for him as well.I know many women came out of woodwork saying this that and other,half the cases the police looked at were thrown out no evidence.

But i know it doesnt make him mr innocent but i am sure he was gutted to go through rape trial the worst kind of crime

Anyhow justs makes you think how jack tweed thing will now pan out.
C
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Originally posted by Gypsie:
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Originally posted by Cinds:
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Originally posted by Gypsie:
ive gone back to loads of houses, doesn't mean i want to have sex, never been assumed that way either?


I was expecting sex when I brought you back to my house, but alas Frowner


Eeker i wanted to but wasnt sure of what team i was on Frowner Blush


I hope Trollop is aware of this understanding Blush
Cinds

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