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Awful patronising woman in charge, but so watchable.
I taped it last week and watched it two days ago
I will tape it tonight again
Its so good i need to give it my undivded attention
I will tape it tonight again
Its so good i need to give it my undivded attention
quote:Originally posted by cup:
I taped it last week and watched it two days ago
I will tape it tonight again
Its so good i need to give it my undivded attention
I haven't seen it.
But how I long to pick up the TV guide one day and see a series on Rich fat cat banker busters or corporate tax avoidance busters or even expense fiddling MP busters
Not very likely though is it?
But how I long to pick up the TV guide one day and see a series on Rich fat cat banker busters or corporate tax avoidance busters or even expense fiddling MP busters
Not very likely though is it?
Do you reckon there's a RED room?!!
quote:Originally posted by Veggieburger:
I haven't seen it.
But how I long to pick up the TV guide one day and see a series on Rich fat cat banker busters or corporate tax avoidance busters or even expense fiddling MP busters
Not very likely though is it?
EXACTLY!!! OR a programme about the investigation into A4E for fraud that's curently on-going!
quote:Originally posted by Senora Reyes:quote:Originally posted by cup:
I taped it last week and watched it two days ago
I will tape it tonight again
Its so good i need to give it my undivded attention
Senora was the rich woman emma on secret millionaire.
quote:Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
Awful patronising woman in charge, but so watchable.
Agree on both points, SeÃąora. I know somebody who works in one of those places here - she is just the same. I think they must go through some sort of patronisation training programme!
quote:Originally posted by Barolo:quote:Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
Awful patronising woman in charge, but so watchable.
Agree on both points, SeÃąora. I know somebody who works in one of those places here - she is just the same. I think they must go through some sort of patronisation training programme!
Barolo if i ask you a question about g.c.s.e in that thread would you be able to help me sorry for butting in here.
She needs a slap round the chops.
quote:Originally posted by N-icky:quote:Originally posted by Veggieburger:
I haven't seen it.
But how I long to pick up the TV guide one day and see a series on Rich fat cat banker busters or corporate tax avoidance busters or even expense fiddling MP busters
Not very likely though is it?
EXACTLY!!! OR a programme about the investigation into A4E for fraud that's curently on-going!
Thank god I am not hte only one. I was watching tv the toehr week and htey were talkinga bout a woman who took 600k over a number of years, and she and her daughter went to prison. I was like WHAT??? WHATTTT??? After what the politicians did, ****ing moat? Duck pond whatever else, even the not so ridiculous stuff... they STOLE hundreds of thousands of pounds and half of them are still working away as if nothing happened. The others resigned and nothing has been done!!! WTF is going on?
Not that the woman and daughter shouldn't have been put in prison - it was a crime ... but come ON!!!
quote:Originally posted by cup:quote:Originally posted by Barolo:quote:Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
Awful patronising woman in charge, but so watchable.
Agree on both points, SeÃąora. I know somebody who works in one of those places here - she is just the same. I think they must go through some sort of patronisation training programme!
Barolo if i ask you a question about g.c.s.e in that thread would you be able to help me sorry for butting in here.
cup, sorry, only just noticed your post!
Yes, no problem, or you can PM me.
quote:Originally posted by Barolo:quote:Originally posted by cup:quote:Originally posted by Barolo:quote:Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
Awful patronising woman in charge, but so watchable.
Agree on both points, SeÃąora. I know somebody who works in one of those places here - she is just the same. I think they must go through some sort of patronisation training programme!
Barolo if i ask you a question about g.c.s.e in that thread would you be able to help me sorry for butting in here.
cup, sorry, only just noticed your post!
Yes, no problem, or you can PM me.
Barolo i will go to g c s e thread Never pm anyone god knows where it will end up
Just watched it. That woman who owns the A4e company is raking in taxpayers money for what? To further demoralise people by blackmailing them into taking shitty minimum wage jobs which last a month. Or zero hour contracts! Absolutely immoral.
At least that bloody Hayley wasn't in it this week, my God I hate that woman.
At least that bloody Hayley wasn't in it this week, my God I hate that woman.
quote:Originally posted by SJ:quote:Originally posted by N-icky:quote:Originally posted by Veggieburger:
I haven't seen it.
But how I long to pick up the TV guide one day and see a series on Rich fat cat banker busters or corporate tax avoidance busters or even expense fiddling MP busters
Not very likely though is it?
EXACTLY!!! OR a programme about the investigation into A4E for fraud that's curently on-going!
Thank god I am not hte only one. I was watching tv the toehr week and htey were talkinga bout a woman who took 600k over a number of years, and she and her daughter went to prison. I was like WHAT??? WHATTTT??? After what the politicians did, ****ing moat? Duck pond whatever else, even the not so ridiculous stuff... they STOLE hundreds of thousands of pounds and half of them are still working away as if nothing happened. The others resigned and nothing has been done!!! WTF is going on?
yeah but the difference is that most of the mp's acted within the rules - it was the rules at fault - however in this case the woman broke the law!!
quote:Originally posted by skive:
Just watched it. That woman who owns the A4e company is raking in taxpayers money for what? To further demoralise people by blackmailing them into taking shitty minimum wage jobs which last a month. Or zero hour contracts! Absolutely immoral.
At least that bloody Hayley wasn't in it this week, my God I hate that woman.
Spot on, skive.
Having watched the programme I wonder how employable the so-called training providers would be if those sort of organisations didn't exist?
quote:Originally posted by skive:
Just watched it. That woman who owns the A4e company is raking in taxpayers money for what? To further demoralise people by blackmailing them into taking shitty minimum wage jobs which last a month. Or zero hour contracts! Absolutely immoral.
At least that bloody Hayley wasn't in it this week, my God I hate that woman.
Yes, I noticed we were spared the hag this week.
The boss lady couldn't answer the ever so important question of "Why should they take work that you say is permanent, but isn't?"
Her pompous answer was predictably patronising "I will have to talk at government level about it" BS!!! Making out she knew nothing about the scam she is raking in.
ÂĢ700 million contract!?! Surely that should go to proper retraining and education for the unemployed? It's all so unbelievable!
quote:Originally posted by Barolo:quote:Originally posted by skive:
Just watched it. That woman who owns the A4e company is raking in taxpayers money for what? To further demoralise people by blackmailing them into taking shitty minimum wage jobs which last a month. Or zero hour contracts! Absolutely immoral.
At least that bloody Hayley wasn't in it this week, my God I hate that woman.
Spot on, skive.
Having watched the programme I wonder how employable the so-called training providers would be if those sort of organisations didn't exist?
One of them very astutely pointed out that he felt pressured to meet the targets because he didn't want to end up in one of the 'rooms'. I didn't hate the 'trainers' as much as I hated last week's but in many ways it was more depressing.
There was no training going on whatsoever. Those unemployed people were basically babysat in a room for weeks of soul destroying boredom and bullied into applying for jobs with conditions that would make a Victorian factory owner blush.
That lovely Sherelle girl succinctly described it as 'tedious'. I'd add shameful to that.
quote:Originally posted by Pretty_P:quote:Originally posted by SJ:quote:Originally posted by N-icky:quote:Originally posted by Veggieburger:
I haven't seen it.
But how I long to pick up the TV guide one day and see a series on Rich fat cat banker busters or corporate tax avoidance busters or even expense fiddling MP busters
Not very likely though is it?
EXACTLY!!! OR a programme about the investigation into A4E for fraud that's curently on-going!
Thank god I am not hte only one. I was watching tv the toehr week and htey were talkinga bout a woman who took 600k over a number of years, and she and her daughter went to prison. I was like WHAT??? WHATTTT??? After what the politicians did, ****ing moat? Duck pond whatever else, even the not so ridiculous stuff... they STOLE hundreds of thousands of pounds and half of them are still working away as if nothing happened. The others resigned and nothing has been done!!! WTF is going on?
yeah but the difference is that most of the mp's acted within the rules - it was the rules at fault - however in this case the woman broke the law!!
and who make the laws?
funny how they made it to suit them innit...sorry...isn't it
quote:Originally posted by felix:quote:Originally posted by skive:
Just watched it. That woman who owns the A4e company is raking in taxpayers money for what? To further demoralise people by blackmailing them into taking shitty minimum wage jobs which last a month. Or zero hour contracts! Absolutely immoral.
At least that bloody Hayley wasn't in it this week, my God I hate that woman.
Yes, I noticed we were spared the hag this week.
The boss lady couldn't answer the ever so important question of "Why should they take work that you say is permanent, but isn't?"
Her pompous answer was predictably patronising "I will have to talk at government level about it" BS!!! Making out she knew nothing about the scam she is raking in.
ÂĢ700 million contract!?! Surely that should go to proper retraining and education for the unemployed? It's all so unbelievable!
It's scandalous isn't it? All that money so they can tweak the statistics for the next election campaign. Not one single thought or consideration to these people's actual lives and futures.
Sherrelle would make a smashing little trainer for A4E - hopefully she'd have at least some insight into how the "trainees" feel.
I was very surprised that the fringe challenged Emma actually agreed to this programme going out - didn't exactly show them in a good light.
There were loads of topics from ex employees of A4E if you googled it but if you google A4E now nearly the whole first page is their own corporate stuff.
They must think we're stupid
I was very surprised that the fringe challenged Emma actually agreed to this programme going out - didn't exactly show them in a good light.
There were loads of topics from ex employees of A4E if you googled it but if you google A4E now nearly the whole first page is their own corporate stuff.
They must think we're stupid
'fringe challenged' 
I loved that Sherelle girl, she'd been dealt a shitty hand by life and yet was so optimistic and philosophical.
I loved that Sherelle girl, she'd been dealt a shitty hand by life and yet was so optimistic and philosophical.
that bloke who has been out of work forever as was his mum and dad and all his relatives, who kept refusing to go to any interviews or training days and his wife pipes up..
'it's them immigrants'
'it's them immigrants'
quote:Originally posted by Pretty_P:quote:Originally posted by SJ:quote:Originally posted by N-icky:quote:Originally posted by Veggieburger:
I haven't seen it.
But how I long to pick up the TV guide one day and see a series on Rich fat cat banker busters or corporate tax avoidance busters or even expense fiddling MP busters
Not very likely though is it?
EXACTLY!!! OR a programme about the investigation into A4E for fraud that's curently on-going!
Thank god I am not hte only one. I was watching tv the toehr week and htey were talkinga bout a woman who took 600k over a number of years, and she and her daughter went to prison. I was like WHAT??? WHATTTT??? After what the politicians did, ****ing moat? Duck pond whatever else, even the not so ridiculous stuff... they STOLE hundreds of thousands of pounds and half of them are still working away as if nothing happened. The others resigned and nothing has been done!!! WTF is going on?
yeah but the difference is that most of the mp's acted within the rules - it was the rules at fault - however in this case the woman broke the law!!
Some were claiming mortgage payments on second homes they`d already sold. That`s breaking the law but they weren`t prosecuted.
quote:Originally posted by skive:quote:Originally posted by Barolo:quote:Originally posted by skive:
Just watched it. That woman who owns the A4e company is raking in taxpayers money for what? To further demoralise people by blackmailing them into taking shitty minimum wage jobs which last a month. Or zero hour contracts! Absolutely immoral.
At least that bloody Hayley wasn't in it this week, my God I hate that woman.
Spot on, skive.
Having watched the programme I wonder how employable the so-called training providers would be if those sort of organisations didn't exist?
One of them very astutely pointed out that he felt pressured to meet the targets because he didn't want to end up in one of the 'rooms'. I didn't hate the 'trainers' as much as I hated last week's but in many ways it was more depressing.
There was no training going on whatsoever. Those unemployed people were basically babysat in a room for weeks of soul destroying boredom and bullied into applying for jobs with conditions that would make a Victorian factory owner blush.
That lovely Sherelle girl succinctly described it as 'tedious'. I'd add shameful to that.
I don't wish to be picky but the conditions in modern-day factories are in no way comparable to Victorian factory conditions.
Yes, factory work is 'tedious' - yes it is 'boring'. I know that because both of my parents had to spend their entire lives doing it. And do you know why I'm not doing it? Because I worked hard at a poor school to get out of the loop (to be fair there aren't that many factories left where I come from because of the darling Margaret Thatcher
)I'm not denying that the terms and conditions that they are trying to work people under are not wrong because I was furious at that exploitation BUT people also need to understand that if they're going to work they aren't going to be Alan Sugar and that the factory jobs need doing as much as anything whether they are 'tedious' or not. Saying "I don't want my little girl to be like this' is a bit rich if you are not prepared to show her that you need to get off your backside to do some honest work because that what your family do.
quote:Originally posted by JacksonB:
that bloke who has been out of work forever as was his mum and dad and all his relatives, who kept refusing to go to any interviews or training days and his wife pipes up..
'it's them immigrants'
Shame they have that attitude, as did the bnp bloke they kicked off the so called 'course'.
I couldn't understand his lack of enthusiasm, until he said he HAD worked for this company before. His days were messed with and reduced at the will of the scumbag employer, who obviously uses this scam to just get day labour only when THEY require them.
So anyone in their right mind would NOT accept their working tax credits being messed about with and the insecurity of NOT knowing if and when the next days work is.
The only ones to benefit were the SCAM AGENCY, by getting a fee for 'placing' a person (that was not going to last anyway) AND the FACTORY owners, for using this convenient facility to hire and fire labour at the drop of a hat!
Disgraceful!
And just to add, these folk lose their housing benefit, free school meals and council tax benefit, when they take these jobs, they then have to reapply as a new claimant and wait weeks to get any money, right or wrong, they are better off onthe dole.
quote:Originally posted by Veggieburger:
I haven't seen it.
But how I long to pick up the TV guide one day and see a series on Rich fat cat banker busters or corporate tax avoidance busters or even expense fiddling MP busters
Not very likely though is it?
Or at least some kind of acknowledgment that working class peeps aren't the only ones who fiddle benefits.
quote:Originally posted by Pretty_P:quote:Originally posted by SJ:quote:Originally posted by N-icky:quote:Originally posted by Veggieburger:
I haven't seen it.
But how I long to pick up the TV guide one day and see a series on Rich fat cat banker busters or corporate tax avoidance busters or even expense fiddling MP busters
Not very likely though is it?
EXACTLY!!! OR a programme about the investigation into A4E for fraud that's curently on-going!
Thank god I am not hte only one. I was watching tv the toehr week and htey were talkinga bout a woman who took 600k over a number of years, and she and her daughter went to prison. I was like WHAT??? WHATTTT??? After what the politicians did, ****ing moat? Duck pond whatever else, even the not so ridiculous stuff... they STOLE hundreds of thousands of pounds and half of them are still working away as if nothing happened. The others resigned and nothing has been done!!! WTF is going on?
yeah but the difference is that most of the mp's acted within the rules - it was the rules at fault - however in this case the woman broke the law!!
no they never!
they all lied to various degrees
claiming for a non-exsistant mortgage is a lie
claiming for a house you dont live in is a lie
claiming for your relatives wages and they dont actually do any work-thats a lie..
loads more instances if you delve further
quote:Originally posted by Veggieburger:
I haven't seen it.
But how I long to pick up the TV guide one day and see a series on Rich fat cat banker busters or corporate tax avoidance busters or even expense fiddling MP busters
Not very likely though is it?
No it's not
One of our esteemed fellow FMs used to have a bee in their bonnet about how rich bankers were the real power base, and I used to make derogatory comments
I had to laugh at the news last night. Apparently if we don't pay them more money they'll leave the country and work elsewhere!
Yup ... she needs to go back to the floor, doesn't shequote:Originally posted by skive:
Just watched it. That woman who owns the A4e company is raking in taxpayers money for what? To further demoralise people by blackmailing them into taking shitty minimum wage jobs which last a month. Or zero hour contracts! Absolutely immoral
I felt really sorry for the bloke who took the landscape gardening job & also, Charelle (the girl who'd lived on her own shince she was 15) ... Such a shame for the both of them
I've been waiting for *bubbles* to pop up on there. 
I felt so sorry for the chap who got the gardening job only to be laid off after was it a week or two. He was so happy at getting this job. What an appalling way to treat people, totally destroying peoples morale.
I had a terrible 3 months being patronised by A4e a couple of years back. How I didn't kill a couple of them, I'll never know. New Deal? I still call it New Ordeal!
quote:Originally posted by PeterCat:
I had a terrible 3 months being patronised by A4e a couple of years back. How I didn't kill a couple of them, I'll never know. New Deal? I still call it New Ordeal!
dont get me started
quote:Originally posted by charmer:quote:Originally posted by Pretty_P:quote:Originally posted by SJ:quote:Originally posted by N-icky:quote:Originally posted by Veggieburger:
I haven't seen it.
But how I long to pick up the TV guide one day and see a series on Rich fat cat banker busters or corporate tax avoidance busters or even expense fiddling MP busters
Not very likely though is it?
EXACTLY!!! OR a programme about the investigation into A4E for fraud that's curently on-going!
Thank god I am not hte only one. I was watching tv the toehr week and htey were talkinga bout a woman who took 600k over a number of years, and she and her daughter went to prison. I was like WHAT??? WHATTTT??? After what the politicians did, ****ing moat? Duck pond whatever else, even the not so ridiculous stuff... they STOLE hundreds of thousands of pounds and half of them are still working away as if nothing happened. The others resigned and nothing has been done!!! WTF is going on?
yeah but the difference is that most of the mp's acted within the rules - it was the rules at fault - however in this case the woman broke the law!!
no they never!
they all lied to various degrees
claiming for a non-exsistant mortgage is a lie
claiming for a house you dont live in is a lie
claiming for your relatives wages and they dont actually do any work-thats a lie..
loads more instances if you delve further
some of them broke the law but not all of them - obv the ones that broke the law should be punished just live benefit fraudsters should be punishe but you can't punish people for acting within rules which many mp's did!!!
quote:Originally posted by Pretty_P:quote:Originally posted by charmer:quote:Originally posted by Pretty_P:quote:Originally posted by SJ:quote:Originally posted by N-icky:quote:Originally posted by Veggieburger:
I haven't seen it.
But how I long to pick up the TV guide one day and see a series on Rich fat cat banker busters or corporate tax avoidance busters or even expense fiddling MP busters
Not very likely though is it?
EXACTLY!!! OR a programme about the investigation into A4E for fraud that's curently on-going!
Thank god I am not hte only one. I was watching tv the toehr week and htey were talkinga bout a woman who took 600k over a number of years, and she and her daughter went to prison. I was like WHAT??? WHATTTT??? After what the politicians did, ****ing moat? Duck pond whatever else, even the not so ridiculous stuff... they STOLE hundreds of thousands of pounds and half of them are still working away as if nothing happened. The others resigned and nothing has been done!!! WTF is going on?
yeah but the difference is that most of the mp's acted within the rules - it was the rules at fault - however in this case the woman broke the law!!
no they never!
they all lied to various degrees
claiming for a non-exsistant mortgage is a lie
claiming for a house you dont live in is a lie
claiming for your relatives wages and they dont actually do any work-thats a lie..
loads more instances if you delve further
some of them broke the law but not all of them - obv the ones that broke the law should be punished just live benefit fraudsters should be punishe but you can't punish people for acting within rules which many mp's did!!!
who are you hazel blears!
a lot of MPs are thieves and should be treated as such
some folk take the piss and screw the system out of thousands-they should be done according to their circumstances-i agree
MPs blatenly take the piss and steal off us-but because they dont come from a 'sink estate' they think theyre exempt?
i dont think so sonny jim-they should be treated the same
like the other thieves
quote:Originally posted by charmer:quote:Originally posted by Pretty_P:quote:Originally posted by charmer:quote:Originally posted by Pretty_P:quote:Originally posted by SJ:quote:Originally posted by N-icky:quote:Originally posted by Veggieburger:
I haven't seen it.
But how I long to pick up the TV guide one day and see a series on Rich fat cat banker busters or corporate tax avoidance busters or even expense fiddling MP busters
Not very likely though is it?
EXACTLY!!! OR a programme about the investigation into A4E for fraud that's curently on-going!
Thank god I am not hte only one. I was watching tv the toehr week and htey were talkinga bout a woman who took 600k over a number of years, and she and her daughter went to prison. I was like WHAT??? WHATTTT??? After what the politicians did, ****ing moat? Duck pond whatever else, even the not so ridiculous stuff... they STOLE hundreds of thousands of pounds and half of them are still working away as if nothing happened. The others resigned and nothing has been done!!! WTF is going on?
yeah but the difference is that most of the mp's acted within the rules - it was the rules at fault - however in this case the woman broke the law!!
no they never!
they all lied to various degrees
claiming for a non-exsistant mortgage is a lie
claiming for a house you dont live in is a lie
claiming for your relatives wages and they dont actually do any work-thats a lie..
loads more instances if you delve further
some of them broke the law but not all of them - obv the ones that broke the law should be punished just live benefit fraudsters should be punishe but you can't punish people for acting within rules which many mp's did!!!
who are you hazel blears!
a lot of MPs are thieves and should be treated as such
some folk take the piss and screw the system out of thousands-they should be done according to their circumstances-i agree
MPs blatenly take the piss and steal off us-but because they dont come from a 'sink estate' they think theyre exempt?
i dont think so sonny jim-they should be treated the same
like the other thieves
if you actually read what I am saying you will see that you are pretty much agreeing with me - I have said that those mp's who broke the law should bepunished like benfit cheats however not all mp's broke the law - some of them acted perfectly within the rules of expenses and in those cases you cannot punish them it is the system that needs to be changed!!
quote:Originally posted by paace:
I felt so sorry for the chap who got the gardening job only to be laid off after was it a week or two. He was so happy at getting this job. What an appalling way to treat people, totally destroying peoples morale.
there must have been some reason. Same for he girl who got laid off the telesales job.
If they were good workers i doubt they would have lost their jobs so soon after being taken on