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Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by suzybean:
Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:

You are all living dangerously - or have lead-lined stomachs!

 

Seriously lal, the food should be binned.

How did people survive then before such things as fridges and freezers became the norm....and our nanny state pre-packed our food and gave us a date by which to use it?

 

They had cold cupboards in the pantry. Pre-cooked food lasted about 3 days and uncooked food was cooked and eaten today or tomorrow.

With the exception of winter, the temperature wasn't likely to be much less than 10 degrees.

 

The majority must have survived, cos we're all here talking to one another.

Everything was salted to within an inch of it's dead life! And people went shopping everyday to those old fangled high street type places (or markets) and cooked from fresh. Everyone else got dysentery and died.

Spot on.

If it was salted that was to preserve it for the longer term.

Thanks for clarifying!!!

suzybean
Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:

Look, smell, cautious taste if need be AND A BIG DOLLOP OF COMMON SENSE!

Unfortunately, that is not always enough, Fluffy. Sometimes, we can't tell if something is contaminated and that's why the experts give out Food Safety Advice.

There are two types of bacteria - firstly, food spoiling bacteria - which could cause your food to look or smell off, and secondly, food poisoning bacteria, which are not always apparent in smell or taste.

Yogi19
Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:
Originally Posted by suzybean:
Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:

Look, smell, cautious taste if need be AND A BIG DOLLOP OF COMMON SENSE!

Yeah, risk it for a biscuit (biscuits good, luke warm double cooked sausages BAD!)

I think you're ignoring all my ifs, ands and buts.

No I'm not. Just because something doesn't reek to high heaven and one is blessed with oodles of common sense doesn't mean one will avoid driving and riding the porcelain bus for a few days.

suzybean
We know a song about this don't we? The dangerous kitchen If it ain't one thing it's another In the middle of the night when you get home The bread things are all dry 'n' scratchy The meat thing Where the cats ate through the paper The can things with the sharp little edges That can cut your fingers when you're not looking The soft little things on the floor that you step on They can all be DANGEROUS Sometimes The milk can hurt you (If you put it on your cereal Before you smell the plastic container) And the stuff in the strainer Has a mind of its own So be very careful In the dangerous kitchen When the night time has fallen, And the roaches are crawlin' In the kitchen of danger You can feel like a stranger The bananas are black They got flies in the back And also the chicken In the dish with the foil Where the cream is all clabbered And the salad is frightful Your return in the evening Can be less than delightful You must walk very careful You must not lean against it It can get on you clothing It can follow you in As you walk to the bedroom And you take all your clothes off While you're sleeping It crawls off It gets in your bed It could get on your face then It could eat your complexion You could die from the danger Of the dangerous kitchen Who the f*** wants to clean it? It's disgusting and dirty The sponge on the drainer Is stinky and squirty If you squeeze it when you wipe up What you get on your hands then Could un-balance your glands and Make you blind or whatever In the dangerous kitchen At my house tonight
Garage Joe
Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:
Originally Posted by Saint:

I wouldn't eat it . . . cos i'm a veggie

So what did you have all that meat in the fridge for then?

I love you Fluffs ... you are so logical

 

I wouldn't have thrown it away though. If the fridge had been open for 4 to 5 hours it would only have been unfridgerated for about 1 to 2 hours really. 

 

I'd have cooked the lot and frozen what I couldn't eat. 

 

Rexi
Originally Posted by Rexi:
Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:
Originally Posted by Saint:

I wouldn't eat it . . . cos i'm a veggie

So what did you have all that meat in the fridge for then?

I love you Fluffs ... you are so logical

 

I wouldn't have thrown it away though. If the fridge had been open for 4 to 5 hours it would only have been unfridgerated for about 1 to 2 hours really. 

 

I'd have cooked the lot and frozen what I couldn't eat. 

 

Hello all  Just back from hols. First thread I've opened I asked Mr Woo he said similar to you Rexi - he said although the fridge read 15 degrees the food certainly wouldn't have been. He works with fish - no ones ever had food poisoning from our shops. I personally agree with Fluffs - smell, taste, sight and common sense.

Soozy Woo
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
 

Hello all  Just back from hols. First thread I've opened I asked Mr Woo he said similar to you Rexi - he said although the fridge read 15 degrees the food certainly wouldn't have been. He works with fish - no ones ever had food poisoning from our shops. I personally agree with Fluffs - smell, taste, sight and common sense.

Welcome back!

suzybean
Originally Posted by suzybean:
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
 

Hello all  Just back from hols. First thread I've opened I asked Mr Woo he said similar to you Rexi - he said although the fridge read 15 degrees the food certainly wouldn't have been. He works with fish - no ones ever had food poisoning from our shops. I personally agree with Fluffs - smell, taste, sight and common sense.

Welcome back!

Thank you - how's bubba bean?

Soozy Woo

I'm usually paranoid about use by dates, but for 3 or 4 hours I probably wouldn't chuck it all - as Soozy said the food itself was probably still quite cool  I'd probably have felt it and if it felt warm I'd have chucked it.   Then again, my kitchen's always cold.

 

I honestly don't know how my Dad doesn't have food poisoning on a regular basis mind you.     I often go in to see him when he's doing dinner and he'll have a packet of something frozen sitting on the worktop, maybe a couple of bits of breaded chicken or something.. he'll take it out he freezer.. leave it there for goodness knows how long because he gets distracted watching telly or something, before he puts it in the oven then he'll put the other back in the freezer.  I've also see him take plain chicken breasts from the freezer and stick one in the frying pan, frozen.     I nag him silly but he just shrugs and says 'but i always do that..'   How he's made it to 86 is a miracle.   

Kaffs
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by suzybean:
Originally Posted by ~Cosmopolitan~:
 

  They'll be discussing the markets over breakfast before you know it.

 

 

Hahahaha or dodgy looking chicken 

Like this do you mean?

 

Oh dear! It's umm umm very unique looking.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Where's Lal anyway? Lal, Lal, Lal.............

 

 

If she's been back in that bin 

 

suzybean

You're right suzy. it was lal who started the thread. I was just responding to your joking about lal and the food now in the bin. Meaning that although we may have different opinions about how the food should have been treated in the first instance, I am agreeing that I wouldn't be advocating taking it back now that it has been binned.

 

I agree about the badge, it confuses me too at times. Especially with Jen, 'cos her avatar has a similarity of colour to mine.

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing
Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:

See, that's another of the 'Ifs, Ands and Buts' and common sense. How old was it to start with and what condition was it in.

Doesn't matter how fresh it was to start with, if it wasn't kept at the correct temperature then nasty bacteria were multipying rapidly.

 

 

A little look into the future, for all the maverick, bacteria-guzzling risk takers:

Yogi19
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by jacksonb:

i would have binned it, i operate on my 3 day rule, if it's been opened and in the fridge for 3 days then it gets binned, the very thought of eating food that may be manky would put me off wanting to eat it anyways.

3 days?  you eat things that have been open for 3 days?      

I have milk open in the fridge for over a week  I did throw away some eggs that were a month past their use by date at the weekend though Dithered a bit mind you cos I really fancied poached eggs

SazBomb

Milk doesn't count Saz... you know if milk's off.    I'm actually a Russian Roulette person with food tbh - I eat eggs that are past their sell by - only up to a week or so though, I mainly have a thing with pate or prepacked cold meat - I don't like keeping that for more than one day.  

 

Yogi... I look on that picture like a bonus weight loss... 

Kaffs

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