Myself.... as long as Dave or JJ don't win, I couldn't give a rip who does!

Josie's as good or as deserving as the other two (Mario and Andrew).

i love her and hope she wins..........i actually think people who don't want her too may have to vote for dave........he seems to be very well supported......he's survived a fair few evictions.......and wasn't even slung out last night...........he's the dark horse imo

I would rather Dave won over Josie.. ANY DAY.

And I, wouldn't!

And I think you have made that clear.

So you think Dave is Josie's nearest rival Spongy?

Interesting. Voting for him is like selling your soul to the devil...

DS POll shows that Mario is closest to Josie.... in fact ahead of her at the moment. But it's the bookies that count.

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Jenny

Getting naked and talking pervy does not a winner make. When he took the mole suit off he took his personality off as well.

g&p......(can't quote )

well for a start i don't think its a certainty that josie will win............i'd like her too but its not a given.......i've just got a feeling about dave.......he may well not be liked much on here........but we're just a small community of posters........he's obviously got huge support somewhere to have survived all those evictions and last night too.........i think he may well be top 2.............i also think jj will get alot of support....he has the jls connection........and i suppose the younger girls may well vote him..........andrew imo is a sweet lad.......he may get alot of votes.....but i can't see him winning but then who knows?..mario?......hmmmmmmm he's a tricky one..........i thought he shone as the mole but his sulks may well go against him


i reckon its between josie,jj and dave........and as i said before......i reckon dave is the dark horse

Mario or Andrew, hell even JJ2 to win as long as its not that awful woman Josie

I don't really think any of those left are deserving of winning...except maybe Andrew cos the Jack Bauer task is still the funniest thing on there for many years.

andrew was hilarious doing that croc!!.......i like him.and if josie doesn't win i'd be happy if he does...............i dunno if he'll pick up enough votes though?

That is very interesting Spongy.  Yes, I see that Josie's nearest rival could come form any of them now that you put it that way. Thanks Spongy, , that was so reasoned and well thought out... compared to my inarticulate rages about Josie..

Agree with you too croc. Andrew is really very funny (my fave was him in DR with the girls and he mouthed "call me" as they left... loved him!!) and a nice lad. I'd love him to win actually.

Oh, and I adore the bromance with Mario. It is so sweet.

Yep...in a series thats been more or less devoid of laughs that was the biggest one we've had.

well thanks g&p!! xx.........and don't worry........as a josie fan i'm used to reading all the rages against her........comes with the territory!!

I quite like Josie now for the way she stuck up for Corin against Sam and J.J! I don't care who wins now, but as long as it's not Dave I'm happy!

Longcat, I agree that mario needs to have a much higher profile in the house, but in a way, that is what I like about him. Mario is just there . .. observing things. He has genuine empathy with people, he is intelligent and interesting, funny.. very well read.

Mario took Andrew under his wing and set him a challenge each day to improve his confidence with girls. He saved the baccy for Corin or whoever needed it and gave it to her when she most needed it. Mario is just a nice, nice guy. He brags and sulks and those are his not so good points but they are minor compared to the nice things about him.

Yeah but, no, but.. that was all fake Kimota. I swear she did not really care. It was for the camera's. To tick the box of doing it for the girls rubbish. Josie is an opportunist.

I don't think shes fake about liking Corin and not liking men who pick on women! her anger was real enough. terrible taste in men tough!

It's all about perception. Josie's "love" for John James is largely fake too. But Corin should have been there. Should have got the golden ticket. She did well in the interview and her best bits were fab. So many to choose from.

Me too Fair fax. JJ2 wouid do just fine if it stopped Josie form winning.

Kimota, in Sammy's interview last night, he said that he really got on with Josie in the four days they spent together in auditions. Based on that Sammy was sure Josie would pick him from the line up when they had to choose. She did not. Sam says he felt betrayed. Even though he now gets on with Josie.. it speaks volumes for Josie's sincerity and loyalty.

I was not surprised in the least to hear what Sam said, The woman uses people. She used Corin.

greenand pink - back at ya!  

I want Mario to win now.... but as long as Dave doesn't then I can live with it.....

For a lot of people, Dave is the one they want to stop winning... He is just nasty it has to be said Baz..

I quite like Andrew the more I think about it. Mario or Andrew would be perfect!

Nothing is going to stop Josie winning - it is a foregone conclusion.

  I know...but it's so unfair.

Ben should be in the final - he was favourite to win at some stage

i'd just like to comment on this audition/lockdown thing...........now.....there has been alot of talk of sam upsetting a woman with one leg........josie and mario have both said it.........now when this has been discussed on here......the general opinion of sam fans was........'we weren't there we didn't hear it so don't believe it'.............its just josie and mario's word............so can i ask......why is it that sam's account of lockdown/auditions is now taken as gospel just because he said it?......that's just his side of it......yet immediately it's 'josie has no loyalty' etc etc........you dismiss one account from josie and mario........yet accept sam's...........as none of us were privvy to their time in lockdown etc........surely none of us know?........its not a balanced arguement to completely dismiss one version under the guise of......'we weren't there'.......to then completely accepting anothers as the truth

The fact that Sam says that he didn't realise that he was upsetting Josie, until John James 'had a word' with him, makes me think that he's not too clever in the 'emotional intelligence' department.

I hope he learns from this, but he'll probably just hear a lot of praise fro 'being real', 'saying it as it is' and 'shaking the house up'.

His targetting of Josie and Corin will be praised as 'entertainment'.

Well there are always going to be idiots out there blizzie, who saw the Corin incident as entertaining.  I think that will be in the minority though, with most people thinking he went OTT.

I am hoping he will learn as he has got alot of growing up to do.

Still love the Pepperpot though

Spongy, I hear you.

I have to confess, that I have never heard of Mario's and Josies negative experiences in lock-down with Sam. I have only heard vaguely form Dave that Sam annoyed everyone who had met him..(this is before sam went into the house) I hear what you say and yes, it must seem one sided for Josie dislikers to believe Sam and not Josie.

I can only say that Josie knows how to turn on the charm. She has a fine line in pretend solidarity...whether it be with her "'uzbaaands" or the girls. What Sammy said rang true from what I have seen of Josie. I can imagine that she pretended to be best mates with Sammy if it worked for her and LEAD him to think he had a friend in her.

Whatever Sammy is, he is not duplicitous  IMO. Josie is nothing but.. I have seen it time and time again. Maybe not duplicitous, but cold and calculating... insincere. There is nothing genuinely warm about her. I don't put it past her to make out to Sammy that they were bezzie muckhers and then shaft him when it came to the crunch. She may have spotted that he had loads of potential and thwarted him.

But I do see what you say too Spongy.. that there are two sides...

She is at it again.. performing for the camera.. thin breathy girlie voice... ever so sweet niece and considerate of everyone. .. It's all and act!!!

thanks for the reply g& p xx.............see my arguement(for want of a better word!) to the comments sam allegedly made about this woman were......and still are........given how insulting he was in the house.....i could imagine him insulting this woman too........like you say about josie and the vibes you get from her make you believe she shafted him......there are always two sides as you say......and i just wanted to raise the point that one can't be taken as gospel......the other dismissed cos none of us were there...we can only speculate and offer our take on it as both you and i have done

and i must say it makes a refreshing change to have a decent convo about josie from someone who doesn't like her!!!...............

I've got my fingers crossed Josie will win, it's not a forgone conclusion yet and I certainly will be trying to help her to do that come Tuesday.. if Jose doesn't win i'll be losing no sleep over it and if someone else wins fair square because they had more votes. I've not always agreed with certain winners because I didn't like them or whatever but they had the support to win.