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[Demantoid] Demantoid online 8463 Forum Posts Yesterday at 00:58 (Last Edited: Reference: Oh and "Elwood" the geriatric hammy is still creaking along.. Bless his little fluffy bum Katty and Darth, I'll never understand people who keep pets without finding out anything about what care they need first. If you take responsibility for a little animal's life, you owe it to them to know what you're doing. If I ever decide to have rats, I'll do my research first - and probably pick Darth's brains on the subject!


i am honoured

rats are awesome, i'm not bias honest all have diff personalities..mostly cheeky, one i have atm, one of the new ones (called them shaggy and scooby...so scooby) comes out his cages, runs across my desk and steals yoggies (or any food i have) then creates a secret stash..that shaggy finds and eats as quickly as scooby hides it
Darthhoob
I rescued a rat from my sister. She bought it from a pet shop and kept it in a wire cat carrier with no bedding, food or water, on top of her wardrobe. I was a bit frightened of it at first but couldn't stand to see what was happening. I went in to give it some water and this little white hooded thing came up to me so gently, I just fell in love with her. I told my sister I was taking her and she didn't really care. I called my little rat Tara and she went everywhere with me. They really are clever animals and she was very clean too. Then someone gave my sister another rat, a horrible vicious brown male, which escaped and got into Tara's cage and made her pregnant. She died a few months after having her babies.
Queen of the High Teas
awwwwwwwwwwww i remember you talking about tara. having babies can be quite damaging to a female rat....most responsible breeders will only do it once, and only from a well bred healthy young (but not too young) female. course being a pet shop rat she would have more than likely been badly bred so not of great health as fancy rats tend to be descendents of lab rats they are quite prone to certain illnesses...mainly respiratory and cancer

poor tara

was this vicious brown rat a wild rat by any chance? just asking cos it's more common than you think for wild rats to make female rats pregnant (well not common but i've heard of a few cases)...and the contact of a wild rat can make pet rats ill . you can get brown fancy rats, but they seem to be quite rare to find...ish lol. i only had one
Darthhoob
haha no. 'normal- eared rats' (called top eared) are EXACTLY the same as dumbos..the ONLY difference is that dumbo rats ears are a little lower set than top eareds...that is  the one and only difference. they can even be born in the same litter to the same parents. pets at home charge more for dumbo rats...and state they live for longer...money grabbing lying gits.

lol they even say that dumbos and top-eareds will fight and cant be kept together....
i wonder how many rats are on their own cos of this misinformation?
Darthhoob
I wouldn't be surprised if the male rat was wild. It was over 20 years ago now but from what I can remember my sister got him when he was tiny and he escaped after a few days. He was horrible. I found him once in the larder eating a bag of flour. He was absolutely massive. Tara was pretty, clever and really friendly. Charlie was just aggressive and looked like a bog standard rat. Poor little Tara.
Queen of the High Teas
i think agouti (brown) rats are pretty...but thats me LOL. they come in so many colours these days...most of mine are hooded but i do have a siamese atm. not many fancy rats are human aggressive (esp males i find...too bloody lazy ), i've owned over 40 rats in my lifetime so far and only one was unhandable...and that was cos she get pregnant at the pet shop i got her from and was only 6 weeks old when i got her and her brother she also only had half a tail...so hated people lol! dont blame her though :/
i did have one boy who was LOVELY! but after a bath he'd attack anyone and anything in the same room as him LOL. he would chase you and bite you.....only when wet/damp though...proper weird. wouldn't think of biting people any other time.
sounds like Charlie could have been wild, or even semi wild.
Darthhoob
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only one was unhandable...and that was cos she get pregnant at the pet shop i got her from and was only 6 weeks old when i got her and her brother
Poor little mite.  I do think rats make excellent pets but I don't think I'd want to keep small animals again though. I get too attached and they die so quickly, I'd be a permanent blubbering mess.  Plus I can't see our three lunatic dogs leaving them alone for a second. Daphne would just sit and stare at them and Wilfy would probably try and drop balls on their heads attempting to get them to play. OH used to keep guinea pigs and he's been after us having one for years. I think he reckons Hetty will be an excuse for him to have one in a couple of years time. I have a feeling he will try to coerce her into a spot of emotinal blackmail.
Queen of the High Teas
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[Demantoid] Demantoid online 8489 Forum Posts Today at 01:01 (Last Edited: Darth, Pets at Home are full of it - in my local one, they have signs saying dumbo rats live 2 years and top-ears live up to 4. And I never knew you could bath them! See, I'm learning all the time...
you shouldn't bath them really...they dont like it LOL! but i didn't know that at the time they smelled a bit (some boys can get whiffy). non scented wet wipes are best...give them a good polish makes them wash themselves properly all over...boys are lazy and quite happy to sleep and wee in the same place and not wash properly.
you can get them used to water, but you have to do it gradually and make it fun and not scarey....like pea fishing videos on youtube of rats learning to be water rats . my local pets at home tells me the opposite lol! that dumbos live 4-5 years and the fancy rat lives 2-3 years (dumbo rats ARE fancy rats..lol). i dont get how they can advertise that 'fact' when it's aginst trading standards surely?

Queenie, they dont live very long and i used to be in absolute bits when they die...but, although it still hurts when they pass, i'm used to coping with it now. esp since my fav boy passed away just over a month ago and some of the rats i've had have died in my hands
guinea pigs are awesome! but i'm allergic to them weird lol! we used to breed them at college and great seeing little babie guinea pigs walking in a line behind mum meeping away

marble is still going strong then lol funny how they can bounce back
Darthhoob
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some of the rats i've had have died in my hands
One of my previous hamsters, Nugget, did that.
She'd gone into the kind of sudden decline they often go into, just before the end. I left her in her bed and expected her to have gone by the time I got home from work. But she was still alive, with her eyes shut and breathing harshly.
I picked her up and cupped her in my hands. Her breathing relaxed into a more normal rhythm, her little body warmed up a bit, she opened her eyes and looked straight at me for a minute or two. Then she died...
Demantoid
the last rat to die on me (well on my OH) was Ocelot...

he came to the front of the cage and clawed at the door, we got him out and he just calmed down and slowly slipped away in my OHs arms...mind you he started breathing again a minute after he died then stopped again after a few mins. sometimes it can be really distressing to watch though, they can panic one litle girl i had, she was a pet shop rescue and apparently 6 weeks old when i got her....my arse was she, she was obviously too young. i only had her a week and she died...panicing
Darthhoob
My wee budgie Jinks isn't well at all.How quickly it happens,he was fine this morning,then at lunchtime he started to  to regurgitate his food.This is common in birds for a short while but he was  doing for over an hour,little mite.He's a blue budgie with whith white  face feathers I was out for a couple of hours and when I got Back I saw his poor wee face feathers all yellow with gunk..Phoned the vet,they are not avian specialists so they gave me the number of a vet who was,I'll book  him in tomorrow.I suspect a problem with his crop.."sour crop" is the most common thing in little birds,alas it can be fatal....  He's only six,budgies can live 10 to 15 years..fingers crossed for "Mr Jinks."
kattymieoww

Awwwww, no! Katty and Mr Jinks
That sounds really distressing for him, I hope he recovers.

Darth, Ocelot was a lovely big handful, what a beauty! It's so horrible when they die in any form of distress. Nugget was clearly panicking and refusing to go before I picked her up for the last time - I'm just glad I got home in time to comfort her and make her calm, so she could slip away.

Marble update - starting to look a bit skinny and wizened, but still got himself up and out of bed for a fresh dandelion leaf this morning..

Demantoid

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