Thats what I meant BD, she got acceptance the first time round...so many years on and she seems less happy now. That said I think most people just think a 'quick snip and tuck' and she should be right as rain! Clearly the issues shes dealt with in her life run a lot deeper than her physical appearance, something people forget.

And I'm sure she has to deal with similar situations all the time in her everyday life....everyone loves a happy sex change but find it difficult to deal with an angry one

maybe Nadia needs to accept herself warts and all . .  only then can she move on and deal with the sides of her character that need attention, badly..

Yeh that's the thing.  Nadia did behave pretty apaullingly in the house, which will lead to people slagging her off.  Worst of all though, she openly questioned the legitimacey of Josie and John James' relationship.  Big mistake.

Even so it seems like a cheap shot to make fun of her sex change.

Coolio was a narse and Nadia reacted very badly. That said,the result of her being on BB is that everyone in the UK knows her history. As there are a lot of idiots out there, she has probably had to put up with a lot in rl since the first show...However, she knew what she was getting herself  into, but perhaps she needed the money.

Yeah MO..either way I hope she sorts it cos when shes on form she shines! But also I think people should stop expecting her to be 'perfect'. Not many of us are and maybe some people should try to accept a few of her warts, cos with the best will in the world shes always going to have a few  

I agree that if the tweenies are in revolt at her just cos she voiced her opinion, albeit unwanted at the time,  about JJJ it is dreadful that they are going down the transphobic route...   

if I was a voter tho  I would still have voted her out tho cos her overall  behaviour and inabilty to control her temper and its OTTishness is atrocious. . I don't and never have liked her because of the way she behaves, not because of anything else..

I dont understand all the drama about that. It was at most an inconsiderate thing to say to Josie and the timing was out, but she was only saying what a lot of us had been discussing for months!


TBH I still agree with both Nadias and Jon McC opinions of the Josie and JJ situation, but at the end of the day thats our opinion. Granted sometimes its best to keep your opinion to yourself

I liked both Coolio and Nadia but they were always going to be at loggerheads, they have a lot in common in some respects and both fight fire with fire!

The JJJ army have ruined BB this year.  It pisses me off.

I can;t accept the extent of her angry side tbh.. .  if she could get help and reign that in then maybe,.    but  I dunno. .she's just not my type of character that Id gel with in RL...  too into herself for me and too girlie girl for me... I am not into mega make up and shoes sessions... even tho I am a girl it  bores me rigid.. 

and call me Olly cos I never know who MO is 

agrees with all of this

Olly  The thing that amuses me about JJJ is they all brush aside his anger throughout this last series....but its ok for him to be angry cos hes a man....and a pretty one. That weighed up with the fact that hes bagged Josie ( a self confessed Plain Jane) makes him give hope to all the teenies that their day will come

I know....bless Gypsie! She even got sucked in

he's pretty??  blimey! ..

 not in my book he ain't ... I think he's pretty weird looking which is as near to pretty as you can get I suppose.. not my cup of tea at all.. 

Perhaps you need to see him in his footie kit Olly...works wonders apparently  I agree though...give me a nice bit of builders bum and a few tatts anyday...oh and fag and beer breath!   Easily pleased me.

What because Ben left?, even Dave fans had to vote tactically to get rid of him to save their favourite! . BB producers are the ones to blame with their poor decisions.

  @ Trollop

I am partial to guys with longer hair .. not Marcus style tho..  and a bit Rockerish or bikerish too... and they have to have brains as well as a pretty face.. but mustn't be too 'hard man  geezer footy [prefer rugger] thug type' tho. .need a bit of the feminine side in there as tis nice to see a bit of emotional empathy in a guy, non of this stiff upper lip stuff.. 

Blimey sounds like I am writing a shopping list

I blame the JJJ army.  They are a bunch of twats.

In all honesty she could be quite aggressive and OTT last time around .........she was pereived as standing up to 'the bullies' Jason and Victor.

This time around it was a different bunch of housemates and a different set of dynamics. Also the fact that she hadn't opened up to everyone re her surgery gained her a lot of sympathy.

IMO,

They have ruined it this year, apparently they have targeted Victor for the next eviction, not that I'm a fan of his, but he's not said anything about the JJJ's. I bet half of them don't even watch the bloody show 

Gang mentality, just because they can have an impact they will do as they please.


Last years X Factor was the start of it, although I was no fan of Joe I felt sorry for him.

I agree BD, but for genuine fans of the show it's ruined the final year. looking on DS this morning some of the posters were saying some of the things posted about Nadia on Twitter were  they seem to be relishing in the fact they had collectively booted someone else out. 

I honestly don't get this JJJ stuff, it's cult like in some places.

The JJ/J twitter twats have ruined both shows this year..eejits.

Coolio is American, ffs how the hell does he know who Nadia is, you can't blame him for not knowing if she has had the operation or not.

I think repeatedly asking Nadia in the house, surely some one would have told him 


edited to say, asking someone that you hardly know repeatedly  if they had a penis is downright rude whatever nationality you are I would have thought.

And asking females in the house to stick their hands up Nadia's skirt to check is a reasonable way of finding out?

I didn't know that, and I haven;t seen any proof of it being said either.  Similar to Josie in BB11, BB are doing their utmost to cover Nadia's arse.

Apparently, it was Ulrika who said he'd done that. And it seems to me that BB are doing much more to cover their own arses by protecting Coolio and throwing Nadia to the wolves.

In all fairness, i wouldn't trust Ulrika as far as you could throw her..remember she singled handedly ruined John Leslie's career.

If they wanted to throw Nadia to the wolves, they'd have shown her wiping Coolio's duvet against her genitals. The way I see it, both of them got off lightly. I certainly wouldn't say that Coolio's words were any worse than Nadia's revolting actions. They both want to be thankful.

I'm a Twitter twat, plus i've spoken to Govan on there.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/bi...oolio-situation.html

Thanks for posting the link Supes, I read about it on DS this morning, I'm pleased they have actually reported it,

Was it all a lie then? Sorry ........I really can't agree with you on this. The guys career wasn't ruined by Ulrika .......he should be accountable for his own actions - if he'd been innocent his career would have survived.

IMO

He is innocent, Sooz.  Ulrika refused to provide evidence so the Judge had no choice but to declare his innocence.

He was never judged re the Ulrika incident ...............I honestly don't blame her for not going to court. She was writing her autobigraphy .........do you think she should have left out an incident that had a profound effect on her?

Just a point  ...........there were a lot of girls ready to talk about his qustionable behaviour and I really don't think it was anything to do with money.

To doubt his innocence is to lack faith in the integrity of the British justice system.  We must assume the courts got it right, in the lack of any concrete evidence.

I have to agree with this, there were a couple of incidents before  the Ulrika book

Ulrika chose not to take him to court ...........in fact she never named him. How could they find him innocent of a crime that was never reported?

She wrote a book and related an incident in her life ..............she had put it behind her and obviously chose not to take it to court. She never named him ................if other people chose to speculate so be it.