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Originally Posted by ~Cosmopolitan~:
Originally Posted by sproooot:
Anyone remember the replacement middle discs you could get for singles too 

Yes and Yes..!
Used to lose the middles and send my mum crazy moaning about it.
And if you stacked more than 8 singles they used to slip like slippy things and sound hilariously distorted.
Haha! yes!
FM
Originally Posted by Carnelian:
I agree with ~Cosmopolitian~ about physical item that was a vinyl recording.  The artwork, the type of paper, sleave notes, if there was an inner sleeve.  TBH, I've long lost interest in artwork and sleeve notes but a single or album in the vinyl era was more of a unique item.
Call me Cosi - it's much easier.

Once they started printing the lyrics on the sleeve notes we were in heaven.
No more misheard lyrics, no more looking a right idiot as you sang the wrong words. 
Cosmopolitan
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by ~Cosmopolitan~:
Gawd, I can remember putting my Every Picture Tells A Story album on top of the fireplace.
It warped, of course.  I'd only owned it for about an hour.
That must have been bloody heartbreaking. I swapped my 'Every Picture Tells a Story' for 'Mud Slide Slim and the Blue Horizon'.

I was a bit p*ssed off at the time, yeah.   My parents used to buy a lot of records at the time so we often 'shared' our albums, so my dad went out and bought another one.

I used to play my mum's Carole King Tapestry album on virtual loop.
My poor dad - it wasn't his 'thing' and in those days we lived in a small flat with no where to hide.  I think that's when he bought me my first set of headphones....
Cosmopolitan
Originally Posted by Carnelian:
I used to have loads of little plastic 'adapters' that converted juke box cut singles to normal singles.  Anyone ever buy a single that was misspressed so that it had to have the adapter removed and be delicately offset so it would play without sounding warped?
We had discs that looked like ice hockey pucks Carnelian. Is that what you mean?
FM
Originally Posted by Carnelian:
I used to have loads of little plastic 'adapters' that converted juke box cut singles to normal singles.  Anyone ever buy a single that was misspressed so that it had to have the adapter removed and be delicately offset so it would play without sounding warped?
Me too. Wow, this takes me back and Smarting, Mr. Hit (well that's what it was called back home), I ground my mother down when I was 14 and I got it. The first record I ever bought was 'Words' Bee Gees.
cologne 1
Not only vinyl  records, but the ones before that - made of hard stuff called shellac I believe.
They didn't bend like vinyl - they simply cracked and broke in two. (Although some people used to heat them and mould them into plant pots.
There seems to have been a family tradition of NOT throwing old records away.
I remember in our family we had 10" and 12" singles.
We would go back as far as The Mikado and Dame Clara Butt who sang Abide With Me like a baritone.
Billie Anthony, Joan Regan, Diana Decker, Dickie Valentine, Johnny Ray,
I think the Top 20 (Top 12 at that time) used to be based on the sales of piano sheet music, but  it later changed to record sales.
In 1954 The Happy Wanderer by The Obernkirchen Children's Choir entered the charts and stayed there for 26 consecurive weeks.
I still have a shellac copy of that record.



The stylus was not yet common. They were played by metal needles, bought by the box, and held by the means of a screw.
So I have shellac records, vinyl records and CDs (optical discs).
Some people think optical discs are almost too perfect. I like vinyl.
I like to hear the fingers move on the strings on the guitar neck. These sounds are often removed now, which can make them very clinical.
Sorry to ramble...
brisket
Originally Posted by sproooot:
And the 'velvet' record cleaner. You had to wipe the record with before you put it on the turntable. I used to do it as it was going round and draw the cleaner to the edge that way
Ohh yes... cos otherwise you would get static which would be the death of record and record players...
FM
Originally Posted by sproooot:
And the 'velvet' record cleaner. You had to wipe the record with before you put it on the turntable. I used to do it as it was going round and draw the cleaner to the edge that way
We went up market and bought one of those toothbrush things that brushed as the record went round.  Know what I mean? 
Cosmopolitan
Originally Posted by brisket:
Not only vinyl  records, but the ones before that - made of hard stuff called shellac I believe.
They didn't bend like vinyl - they simply cracked and broke in two. (Although some people used to heat them and mould them into plant pots.
There seems to have been a family tradition of NOT throwing old records away.
I remember in our family we had 10" and 12" singles.
We would go back as far as The Mikado and Dame Clara Butt who sang Abide With Me like a baritone.
Billie Anthony, Joan Regan, Diana Decker, Dickie Valentine, Johnny Ray,
I think the Top 20 (Top 12 at that time) used to be based on the sales of piano sheet music, but  it later changed to record sales.
In 1954 The Happy Wanderer by The Obernkirchen Children's Choir entered the charts and stayed there for 26 consecurive weeks.
I still have a shellac copy of that record.



The stylus was not yet common. They were played by metal needles, bought by the box, and held by the means of a screw.
So I have shellac records, vinyl records and CDs (optical discs).
Some people think optical discs are almost too perfect. I like vinyl.
I like to hear the fingers move on the strings on the guitar neck. These sounds are often removed now, which can make them very clinical.
Sorry to ramble...
No Brisket - I loved it . My parents loved their music and I do have some of their albums still.

I have 2 boxed sets going back to 1940 - Brahms symphony on "His Master's Voice"  They actually have the name of the owner on them and he has helpfully told us that the records must have fibre needles only.
I am thinking of having them valued...
FM
Originally Posted by ~Cosmopolitan~:
Originally Posted by sproooot:
And the 'velvet' record cleaner. You had to wipe the record with before you put it on the turntable. I used to do it as it was going round and draw the cleaner to the edge that way
We went up market and bought one of those toothbrush things that brushed as the record went round.  Know what I mean? 
There just had to be one didn't there! 
FM
Originally Posted by brisket:
Originally Posted by Issy:
.... told us that the records must have fibre needles only.
I am thinking of having them valued...
I would think some enthusiastic collectors would be very interested Issy.

I had forgotten fibre needles - I think they had to be sharpened.
I think it's great that you still have them.
My lovely Dad was a squirrel and someone was clearing their house and asked him if he wanted their old records.
He got all sorts and was so happy about it,

One of my best memories was Mum and Dad deciding to have a music session on a Saturday afternoon. They used to waltz around the sitting room - it was lovely,
FM
Brisket, your main post above reminded me of a friend who had inherited a load of his grandfather's Glenn Miller albums.  I say 'albums' as some of them were the size of the 76rpm records but had 4 tunes on them - like an old 45rpm EP.

He used to play it on what I thought was a special record player and he was for ever messing around with the (what I thought was) stylus.  Perhaps they were made of shellac or similar and in my ignorance I didn't realise?

God, it's true - you don't realise the golden moments until they're hindsight and in the past.
Cosmopolitan
Originally Posted by sproooot:
Originally Posted by ~Cosmopolitan~:
Originally Posted by sproooot:
And the 'velvet' record cleaner. You had to wipe the record with before you put it on the turntable. I used to do it as it was going round and draw the cleaner to the edge that way
We went up market and bought one of those toothbrush things that brushed as the record went round.  Know what I mean? 
There just had to be one didn't there! 
I think my Dad had one - but he didn't ever really use it properly
FM
Originally Posted by sproooot:
And the 'velvet' record cleaner. You had to wipe the record with before you put it on the turntable. I used to do it as it was going round and draw the cleaner to the edge that way
...but every now and again you'd have to clean the stylist (is that what the diamond is called?) I can still hear the noise it made when I cleaned the fluff off it.
cologne 1
Originally Posted by brisket:
Originally Posted by Issy:
.... told us that the records must have fibre needles only.
I am thinking of having them valued...
I would think some enthusiastic collectors would be very interested Issy.

I had forgotten fibre needles - I think they had to be sharpened.
I think it's great that you still have them.
Oh, do it Issy please, and let us know 
FM
Originally Posted by Issy:
Originally Posted by sproooot:
Originally Posted by ~Cosmopolitan~:
Originally Posted by sproooot:
And the 'velvet' record cleaner. You had to wipe the record with before you put it on the turntable. I used to do it as it was going round and draw the cleaner to the edge that way
We went up market  and bought one of those toothbrush things that brushed as the record went round.  Know what I mean? 
There just had to be one didn't there! 
I think my Dad had one - but he didn't ever really use it properly

That was the >< part of my post, Issy & Sprout.  it was new and modern and meant to be the latest thing but it didn't work anywhere near as well as a good old velvet cloth and some elbow grease. 
Cosmopolitan
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Originally Posted by sproooot:
And the 'velvet' record cleaner. You had to wipe the record with before you put it on the turntable. I used to do it as it was going round and draw the cleaner to the edge that way
...but every now and again you'd have to clean the stylist (is that what the diamond is called?) I can still hear the noise it made when I cleaned the fluff off it.
Actually, they say that there's nothing like the sound of a record with the original hisses and crackles and stuff, and if you had a good turntable and stylus it was as good as CD quality 
FM
Originally Posted by sproooot:
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Originally Posted by sproooot:
And the 'velvet' record cleaner. You had to wipe the record with before you put it on the turntable. I used to do it as it was going round and draw the cleaner to the edge that way
...but every now and again you'd have to clean the stylist (is that what the diamond is called?) I can still hear the noise it made when I cleaned the fluff off it.
Actually, they say that there's nothing like the sound of a record with the original hisses and crackles and stuff, and if you had a good turntable and stylus it was as good as CD quality 
It's probably just nostalgia, but I loved the old SPs, LPs and record players. .
cologne 1
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Originally Posted by sproooot:
And the 'velvet' record cleaner. You had to wipe the record with before you put it on the turntable. I used to do it as it was going round and draw the cleaner to the edge that way
...but every now and again you'd have to clean the stylist (is that what the diamond is called?) I can still hear the noise it made when I cleaned the fluff off it.
Didn't you have to blow it first?
FM

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