Cheers Girlrider I agree...it's not about blindly following them...we may even hate them. But it's nice to see minorities represented.
Bozzie, I have to say, I don't think Mikey was a "stereotypical" disabled person. He was disabled (not just blind he had a connective tissue disorder affecting joints etc too)
I'm not sure of the point you're making? I think I know..but not quite
mikey came out with some funny stuff, girlrider.
i championed brian belo against all odds (and practically the whole forum) as well... am i bovvered?
i championed brian belo against all odds (and practically the whole forum) as well... am i bovvered?
quote:Originally posted by bozzimacoo:
mikey came out with some funny stuff, girlrider.
i championed brian belo against all odds (and practically the whole forum) as well... am i bovvered?
I championed Brian too because I thought he was funny but also because it was nice believing that a Black person could win a reality TV show (don't shoot me - I'm being honest.) But when I saw him on that BB quiz thing I did think 'Oh my God Girlrider... you supported him... he's sooo dozy and embarrassingly unintelligent!' Still glad he won though...
quote:Originally posted by electric6:
Cheers Girlrider I agree...it's not about blindly following them...we may even hate them. But it's nice to see minorities represented.
Bozzie, I have to say, I don't think Mikey was a "stereotypical" disabled person. He was disabled (not just blind he had a connective tissue disorder affecting joints etc too)
I'm not sure of the point you're making? I think I know..but not quite
i think i don't either, i say one word wrong and i go off on a tangent searching for examples and then, with all human traits and personalittittees, backrounds..... friggin' hell, it can all be pulled apart, must be my unstructured thinking. no harm done eh?
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:quote:Originally posted by Girlrider29:
To me - Mikey Although I did admire his standing up to... I can't remember who it was.
Rex!
Yes Rex, yuck, and thank goodness Mikey did
Aye, fair enough...it's late, no one can think hard this time of night
quote:Originally posted by electric6:
Aye, fair enough...it's late, no one can think hard this time of night
Hmmmmmmmm....
*** thinks 'hard' ***
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:quote:Originally posted by electric6:
Aye, fair enough...it's late, no one can think hard this time of night
Hmmmmmmmm....
*** thinks 'hard' ***
Very poor excuse - tripe is tripe no matter what time of day.
JOOOOKING!!
quote:Originally posted by Girlrider29:quote:Originally posted by bozzimacoo:
mikey came out with some funny stuff, girlrider.
i championed brian belo against all odds (and practically the whole forum) as well... am i bovvered?
I championed Brian too because I thought he was funny but also because it was nice believing that a Black person could win a reality TV show (don't shoot me - I'm being honest.) But when I saw him on that BB quiz thing I did think 'Oh my God Girlrider... you supported him... he's sooo dozy and embarrassingly unintelligent!' Still glad he won though...
Brian was a lovely chap and quite amusing.
I don't think he's that thick either!
I've read your post and noone elses..and find it weird..no disrespect, I just see people and not colour.or size..attack me now..not you but whoever wants to....
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
Hmmmmmmmm....
*** thinks 'hard' ***
OH that is deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezgustin'!
quote:Originally posted by stonks:
I've read your post and noone elses..and find it weird..no disrespect, I just see people and not colour.or size..attack me now..not you but whoever wants to....
Blizzie made an interesting post - can't remember what page but I think this goes someway to explaining what I was getting at. There are other issue but I think her/his post broadly explains it. I think also, when it comes down to it maybe it's not just about colour but also other factors including who you most identify with - which someone else also pointed out.
quote:Originally posted by Girlrider29:
Blizzie made an interesting post - can't remember what page but I think this goes someway to explaining what I was getting at. There are other issue but I think her/his post broadly explains it. I think also, when it comes down to it maybe it's not just about colour but also other factors including who you most identify with - which someone else also pointed out.
Yay, I got the leccy's credit!
quote:Originally posted by Girlrider29:quote:Originally posted by stonks:
I've read your post and noone elses..and find it weird..no disrespect, I just see people and not colour.or size..attack me now..not you but whoever wants to....
Blizzie made an interesting post - can't remember what page but I think this goes someway to explaining what I was getting at. There are other issue but I think her/his post broadly explains it. I think also, when it comes down to it maybe it's not just about colour but also other factors including who you most identify with - which someone else also pointed out.
I lubs Blizzie to bits, one of the most funny FM's going, I will go look tomorrow but tonight I am wrecked....
quote:Originally posted by stonks:
I lubs Blizzie to bits, one of the most funny FM's going, I will go look tomorrow but tonight I am wrecked....
Aww, you only lubs me when you're wrecked!
I only pointed out leccy's post, anyway!
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:quote:Originally posted by Girlrider29:
Blizzie made an interesting post - can't remember what page but I think this goes someway to explaining what I was getting at. There are other issue but I think her/his post broadly explains it. I think also, when it comes down to it maybe it's not just about colour but also other factors including who you most identify with - which someone else also pointed out.
Yay, I got the leccy's credit!
DAMN!!! I meant Electric! Soz. OK, it's defo time for bed. Damn!
quote:Originally posted by Girlrider29:
DAMN!!! I meant Electric! Soz. OK, it's defo time for bed. Damn!
Night night!
A HMs colour/ethnicity is not something I ever make a judgement ot have an opinion on - they're people.
What I do gauge a contestant on is their likeability as opposed to their irritability factor. This year, those who irritate me the most are Freddie, Angel, Lisa, Sophia (can't stand her laugh) and Siavash. The others are OK in varying degrees!
What I do gauge a contestant on is their likeability as opposed to their irritability factor. This year, those who irritate me the most are Freddie, Angel, Lisa, Sophia (can't stand her laugh) and Siavash. The others are OK in varying degrees!
No i dont particularly get excited over any HM no matter what race they are, i either like them as a person or i dont.
having said that i did get a bit excited when this lot went in last night simply because they are a good mix of cultural backgrounds,and wacky people and it is a first for BB so it will be interesting to see if cultural differences are going to blend well or mix like oil and water.
having said that i did get a bit excited when this lot went in last night simply because they are a good mix of cultural backgrounds,and wacky people and it is a first for BB so it will be interesting to see if cultural differences are going to blend well or mix like oil and water.
well, i am white & LOVED Victor & Science , also like ciaron so far , but i dont tend to see people as `black` , `white` etc
quote:Originally posted by kattymieoww:
Well I'm white but I loved Victor and Science and to a lesser extent Derek.Oh I though makosi was ok too,untill the daft pool stuff etc.
I'm white too and I liked Victor, Science and Derek - although loathed Makosi.
At the risk of sounding repetitive; I'm not saying only Black people support Black housemates - that's not the issue I'm attempting to look at. I'm trying to look at whether Black FMs or even the general public develop an affinity to Black housemates based on their race as an initial response resulting in premature support until that housemate shows their true colours, i.e. Derek Laud, Makosi etc.
Please - I'm NOT saying people of other races don't support Black housemates - that would be ridiculous.
Please - I'm NOT saying people of other races don't support Black housemates - that would be ridiculous.
quote:Originally posted by kattymieoww:
Well I'm white but I loved Victor and Science and to a lesser extent Derek.Oh I though makosi was ok too,untill the daft pool stuff etc.
Not a racist bone in my body , but couldn't stand any of those you mentioned, BECAUSE, I just didn't like them as people. Loved Derek Laud until he made that appalling remark to Science about the BNP.
I don't care what colour they are TBH, as long as they're entertaining (not aggressive) and a nice person....Victor was also one of my all time favourite HMs!
quote:Originally posted by Girlrider29:
At the risk of sounding repetitive; I'm not saying only Black people support Black housemates - that's not the issue I'm attempting to look at. I'm trying to look at whether Black FMs or even the general public develop an affinity to Black housemates based on their race as an initial response resulting in premature support until that housemate shows their true colours, i.e. Derek Laud, Makosi etc.
Please - I'm NOT saying people of other races don't support Black housemates - that would be ridiculous.
Do you mean........a sort of instant 'connection' based on a similarity or trait that we'd see in ourselves?
And then the subsequent disappointment when they turn out to be a total wazzock?
I liked Makosi because I found her entertaining...until the pool episode, but the Tickle was my favourite HM of all time. On the other hand I couldn't stand Alex, Victor or Science.
I disliked Mikey,not because he was blind, but because he gave me the creeps (I have eye problems too). Of the other HMs I voted for Nadia to win and Sakia and Maxwell to be evicted.
I don't see colour, disability or sexual orientation, just people who I either like or dislike whatever
I disliked Mikey,not because he was blind, but because he gave me the creeps (I have eye problems too). Of the other HMs I voted for Nadia to win and Sakia and Maxwell to be evicted.
I don't see colour, disability or sexual orientation, just people who I either like or dislike whatever
quote:Do you mean........a sort of instant 'connection' based on a similarity or trait that we'd see in ourselves?
And then the subsequent disappointment when they turn out to be a total wazzock?
That's exactly how I took her OP, Cosmopolitan...I don't think other people answering the thread have quite got it...I could be wrong, I frequently am
There does seem to be more coloured people in this series than from other series. I am not being racist by saying this. Just pointing it out
quote:Originally posted by Roxi:
There does seem to be more coloured people in this series than from other series. I am not being racist by saying this. Just pointing it out
Was that for the benefit of those of us with black and white tellys?
I'm white, and I loved Science, Darnell and Darren from BB1.
Hated Derek and Victor, blew hot and cold about Makosi and was irritated by fake Brian Belo.
I see the HM, not the HM's colour.
Hated Derek and Victor, blew hot and cold about Makosi and was irritated by fake Brian Belo.
I see the HM, not the HM's colour.
i am white and i think i like him so far i liked science and derek and i dont really judge on skin ,just on their behaviour
after all how could i like maxwell and saskia
after all how could i like maxwell and saskia
quote:Originally posted by Girlrider29:quote:Originally posted by electric6:
I can sort of relate.
I'm white, but I am a walking stick user due to a genetic condition...when I heard about Pete, Mikey, Darnell etc...I did think "oooh great, I wonder how this pans out/how the forumers react/how they are as HMs/ how the public reacts/how will they be/will they challenge preconceptions and stereotypes"
I don't actually favour HMs with disabilities, nor will I blindy defend them...but I do like to see them in the house NO MATTER WHAT they are like...because to me...the more often minorities are on the telly the more "normal" it becomes. The more we see, the less of an issue it is.
And that's what we all want eventually, isn't it? So that eventually no one cares and just judges the HMs for their personalities and the Black/Asian/Gay/Tourettes/Albinsim/Blind/Disabled or whatever...becomes a non issue.
I may have the wrong end of the stick, apologies if I have (I've had a few voddies)
Yes - I think this is absolutely true and can relate. Having said - I wanted to feed Alex (from last year) to the dogs. I actually couldn't watch it while she was on To say she made my blood boil would be a complete understatement. But yes, I think you have that right.
when i watched alex, i came to the conclusion she was pretty unlikeable,regardless of colour, did the fact that she was black make you more aware of how she came across, sort of letting the side down?
because being white and male, when i see yobs about, being yobs, that's how i feel
quote:Originally posted by Kaytee:
I liked Makosi because I found her entertaining...until the pool episode, but the Tickle was my favourite HM of all time. On the other hand I couldn't stand Alex, Victor or Science.
I disliked Mikey,not because he was blind, but because he gave me the creeps (I have eye problems too). Of the other HMs I voted for Nadia to win and Sakia and Maxwell to be evicted.
I don't see colour, disability or sexual orientation, just people who I either like or dislike whatever
Oh yes me too, its not the thing I most notice about people, the colour of their skin, more likely to notice their hair or dress sense or whatever.
Charley and Alexandra were appallingly unlikeable to me. Then again, so were Rebecca, Carole, Grace, Nikki, Chanelle, Nicole, etc...
quote:Originally posted by ~Cosmopolitan~:quote:Originally posted by Girlrider29:
At the risk of sounding repetitive; I'm not saying only Black people support Black housemates - that's not the issue I'm attempting to look at. I'm trying to look at whether Black FMs or even the general public develop an affinity to Black housemates based on their race as an initial response resulting in premature support until that housemate shows their true colours, i.e. Derek Laud, Makosi etc.
Please - I'm NOT saying people of other races don't support Black housemates - that would be ridiculous.
Do you mean........a sort of instant 'connection' based on a similarity or trait that we'd see in ourselves?
And then the subsequent disappointment when they turn out to be a total wazzock?
YES! That's exactly what I mean! THANK YOU!
Science I loved though. I'm not sure there was another Black housemate I did love besides him, although like I said, I did warm to Victor after a while.
quote:Originally posted by electric6:quote:Do you mean........a sort of instant 'connection' based on a similarity or trait that we'd see in ourselves?
And then the subsequent disappointment when they turn out to be a total wazzock?
That's exactly how I took her OP, Cosmopolitan...I don't think other people answering the thread have quite got it...I could be wrong, I frequently am
I had to bold that! Can I do it again?
That's exactly how I took her OP, Cosmopolitan...I don't think other people answering the thread have quite got it...
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I completely agree, except that I LOVED Ahmed and Mohammed as well. I really don't understand why anyone would support a HM who comes from their area, or who is the same gender, ethnicity etc. Surely it's more logical to support people you actually like based on what appeals to you about their personality?quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
I loved Victor, Jon THE LEGEND Tickle and Derek, andat times Science, and im a pale white guy.
It doesn't matter whether we are black or white as to who we support.
Although I have noticed in years gone by that some people tend to support HM's who come from their area and for no other reson.
Which I think is daft too.
I have loved all housemates but I have seen some semi-racist written about some of the black housemates and I felt I had to defend them...
quote:Originally posted by Growlybear:I completely agree, except that I LOVED Ahmed and Mohammed as well. I really don't understand why anyone would support a HM who comes from their area, or who is the same gender, ethnicity etc. Surely it's more logical to support people you actually like based on what appeals to you about their personality?quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
I loved Victor, Jon THE LEGEND Tickle and Derek, andat times Science, and im a pale white guy.
It doesn't matter whether we are black or white as to who we support.
Although I have noticed in years gone by that some people tend to support HM's who come from their area and for no other reson.
Which I think is daft too.
Of course that's more logical, but when they first come in you don't really know who you actually really like because we don't know very much about them. I'm talking about (as Cosmo and Electric said) that instant connection and identification with someone you can identify with that appears as an initial response and then may or may not not be sustained throughout their time in the house.
quote:Originally posted by electric6:quote:Originally posted by Roxi:
There does seem to be more coloured people in this series than from other series. I am not being racist by saying this. Just pointing it out
Was that for the benefit of those of us with black and white tellys?
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