I heard it, it wasn't. In fact a million miles from her comment today, that really was shocking.

She's just been told that he made bitchy comments about her looks.
She has every right to go on and on.

Thats my point too BD.

In my opinion, it was a nasty comment directed at Josie.

Josie's comment was a stupid comment, aimed at herself.

how about his bitching sessions in the nest.......where he bitched about john james,mario,steve,josie,rachel......just about everyone........in nearly every h/l show........there was ben....in the nest bitching like no tomorrow about someone

He was right though, she used to look a lot better when she took some care of herself. Anyway, I'm sure he wouldn't have denied it to her face if they had told her then, he would have explained what he meant and she would have had a chance to start looking pretty again.

But why did they need to tell her, why hurt her - I don't understand why John James would deliberately hurt her. No need, he should be protecting her. In his attempt to point score and bitch against Ben he is hurting the woman he purports to love. Its just not right

and her husband sat there agreeing with Ben.

Remind me again, when you burnt your bra?

Listened to by god only knows how many women who do not need to be confused about their situation even more than they most probably are. Incensitive bimbo.

Way before you got on your high horse.

No he didn't.
He and Dave looked shocked and both said that they hadn't noticed any such thing.

I can't believe I having to defend John James and Dave, again! Don't make me!!

As long as I look 'pretty' up here?

he would have blustered.uttered a few apologies......told her 'i love you you really are my friend i adore you forgive me'.....then had a right bitch up in the nest about it later with dave

I agree totally. It makes me sick when people are just blatantly bloody rude and offensive and dress it up to make out that they are 'helping you' or 'just kidding' when they say something offensive, and you are boring or devoid of a sense of humour if you get offended.  People like that make me sick;  Insulting you by sneakily and deviously dressing it up as a 'throwaway' comment.  I quite liked Ben, but this was out of order.  Why the hell do people think they have the RIGHT to comment on peoples' appearance to their face.  They need to keep their sticky beaks out ...

Was Ben being bitchy or stating the obvious?....IMO the latter,when she first went in there she took a lot of care with her appearance,nice dresses matching head wear ,clothes that suited her body shape much much better than what she then started wearing,they don't suit her body type,they emphasise the less flattering .We've all got that problem with different parts of our bodies so emphasise our better features,mask the bad as best we can.

I wouldn't know that, but you don't always sound so pretty up there.

Can't a woman be a feminist and have a nice appearance. Does it follow you have to look like a sack of spuds and let yourself go to have feminist principles.

My recollection is, he did.

But he didn't call her fat, he was polite and was suggesting her outfits weren't suiting her, and they didn't.

Feminists do look like a sack of spuds tho.

 thanks.

I wish Ben had never made that remark, whether it was true on not, because it has given his detractors a stick to beat him with.

Your welcome Cologne

Can't a woman wear what she feels comfortable in, without being expected to conform to others' opinions?

LMFAO!    SO true!  Well most the ones I have ever known anyway. 

 


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A picture of glamour.

Course she can. I do, but I also take great pride in how I look. Different horses for different courses as they say ( probably got that wrong, but I'm sure you  knowwhat I'm aiming at

Only if it is defended as a reasonable comment.

and the word heffalump was unkind, but I think it was a typically Ben comment, and I mean this in a totally non homophobic way, it was bitchy and spiteful, but they have all had a bitch at each other at some point.

LOL Blue diamond! 

Of course if it had been John James saying these comments to ANYONE, he would have been slaughtered (by some!)    But hey, what is wrong with having different rules for different HMs eh?

Exactly.

I couldn't care less about how I look, but I don't expect others to be like me.

How true!

As a Ben fan, who thinks he's the best housemate all series, it's still only fair that I disagree with the comment he made about Josie wearing tight tops.  It wasn't a nice comment, and he didn't have to say it.  In reality it probably contributed towards his eviction.  I wish he hadn't said it.

Well I'm sure Ben thought it was a reasonable comment at the time of making it. Ill advised or otherwise. One doesn't set out to be unreasonable unless one is John James, now that's a different kettle of fish.

Amen to that Spider

It might not have been a nice comment but it certainly wasn't a nasty comment, just his opinion and he didn't put it in a harsh or nasty way.



I dont understand why Josie or anyones weight is a no no topic.