Sitting there saying Ben is very two-faced when about half an hour ago it was so lovely to see you again Ben, she is as hypocritical as John James.

And yet Josie nominated Ben twice, so she was two faced to him.

I know Vid, she really is a pain the arse...Her ego has no bounds, everything has to be about her. One of the issues I've had with this year's BB, is that they have made these two desperate no-marks the centre of everything...I love Andrew, and I can bet there have been loads we've missed, with and his brilliant comic timing. Right now I'd rather watch Andrew's Grandad slippers than watch a nano second of these two oxygen thieves.

Josie has been two faced, all of the housemates are.. however why is she being blamed for a comment that was brought up about her by someone else that she had no idea was said about her anyway?. All of them are hypocrites!.


I didn't like that comment either guess that makes me a sinner.

 

What is it that Ben said about her that she is upset about?

Ben couldn't look her in the eye, so I hope he feels guilty about it.

He hugged and kissed her, more than once.

He said that she had started dressing up and showing too much flesh, which she couldn't get away with, with her figure.

He didn't say anything different to what several million people hear once a week on Gok Wan.

Nail and head Senora! 

and her "boyfriend" felt the need to hurt her with relaying this. The guy is just disgusting.

Yes, he's good at that, isn't he?

So, you don't think he feels guilty, then?

i agree with darlo.........so she nominated ben twice.....so?!!.........had she nominated him every single week then yes.....i could see where the hypocritical comment would stand.......but twice?.....sometimes the slightest thing would offer a reason for someone to nominate you......

and i'm afraid ben was a serial victim..'i don't understand why they're saying this about me'.......'i don't understand why he's doing this to me' etc etc........he was also an uber bitch who held court in the nest with the mad monk for bitching sessions about everyone........just cos he preceeded everything with 'i love him/her but'.....or he/she is a good friend of mine but'.....doesn't mean he wasn't being nasty or bitchy....he was

He said that Josie was changing her behaviour towards JJ as in she was trying to get bim to be interested in her by wearing tight clothes that doesn't suit her body shape.


Not that bad I think.

He didn't want to, to be fair to him.

He was always sucking up to Jose after having a dig about her appearance behind her back. I think he did like her as a person though.

why did he then. Surely if you love someone you will move heaven and earth to protect them.

Josie is the most two faced gamer in that house BAR NONE,  she would hug a HM but then nominate them the next minute.


She enjoys seeing people arguing and takes delight in others misfortune.

Exactly.... nasty little oik!!  He is simply getting back at her for having a go at him earlier today....

Aww Darlo, thats a bit of a exageration (sic) he wasn't. He should have kept his opinion about her largness to himself but to say he was "Always sucking up to her" is not right IMO (moreover he wan't always having a dig at her..

He didn't say anything that bad about her appearence, conrtext is everything.

so ben wasn't being two-faced then after saying she shouldn't wear tight clothes cos of her figure......then hugging and kissing her when he went in  like he'd never said it?

But he did say it, who is disputing he didn't. I don't understand.  They are all as two faced as each other, just some more than others, case being John James and Monk Dave. Why hang Ben out to dry for a comment he made about her being fat. He said it, perhaps shouldn't have but why is John James relaying it to her now

Fairfax, Ben NEVER said Josie was fat, he just suggested that Josie in trying to attract JJ was wearing tight clothes that didn't suit her body shape.

Ben's remark has been blown out of all proportion by those who have an agenda to make it look worse than it was.

All the other housemates are guilty at doing that, the most pathetic reasons are used sometimes if they genuinely have run out of ideas.

Yes that's right Ben never called her fat, and what he said IMO was true...

When she first came in she had really nice dresses and she looked good...Then she started wearing these tight T shirts, ill fitting jeans and she seemed to dress scruffy, baseball cap donned on her head, and IMO she looked awful, compared to when she first came into the house.

Vid and Squiggle, I stand corrected, thanks for that! Makes sense, can't actually imagine Ben saying something so crass and  blatant. Having said that this makes John James stirring even more disgraceful

ff...........the point i was contesting was squiggle  saying josie hugged and kissed ben and is now having a pop at him makes her a hypocrite.....she's having a moan up cos she now knows what he said about her behind her back...........my arguement is......ben said it.....he knows he said it......yet he hugged and kissed josie too.......more than once apparently.........so why doesn't that make him a hypocrite also?........he's slagged her off and greeted her as a friend

For a comment like that to shock John James AND Dave, it's got to be bad!

Ben UNLIKE JOHN JAMES has respect for women.

Only problem with that, is that Ben's comment was about one of the nights when she did get dressed up. 

If you can show me where Ben goes on and on and on about a HM like Josie has just done to him I might agree with you.

As usual, people make things out to be worse than they are, according to what their opinion of the said housemate is.  For some, Josie is the bad guy here, for others, it's Ben.  IMO, they are both equally guilty/at fault. 

If he really loved her he would not repeat back something that could hurt her, if he has told Josie this now, he is only reflecting what he feels for her which is an utter contempt.

oh come on!!!......dress it up all you like.we all knew what he meant by it........'wearing tight clothes that didn't suit her body shape' is a polite way of saying.......'she's too fat to wear tight clothes'