Oh crikey Sooz! I don't know what to say 

Suzy! We people of the top generation should tell it as it is! I had to pick up my eldest grandson from a "sleepover" this morning. It left him in a totally grumpy, contrary, surly mood. I've no idea where all that sleepover shieght started. It's one thing having a friend to stay, but having a hoard of young 10 yo lads to stay in one house hasn't worked for him.

Go to the front door - open it - deep breath ... and say,

 

FOOOOOOK RIGHT OFF  - NOW !!!!

I find it very strange that people who had a hard childhood end up doing the same things to their own children.  I know it's very hard to change who you are but if you choose to have kids then surely you hope for the best for them and usually would want to make sure they have a better life than you did.

My grand son is 10 - i let him have a sleep over with three friends for his birthday. They made it a mission to stay awake all night. They seem to do this at every sleep over - we've put a stop to it now until they can be a bit more sensible. It wrecks their weekend and makes them tired and irritable for days.

I know I feel the same. His two sisters are absolutely brilliant mums - I fear my nephew is a lost cause. I find it soooooo upsetting as it broke my heart to see how horrible his own father was to him. I'm so shocked TBH.

aww Sooz! x

Be honest - you're itching to tell them they're crap?

Yeah, but sometimes you just can't go wading in Renton 

Really??

Really! One has to bite one's tongue at all times.

Not at all. Both Mr Woo and I are trying to just set a bit of an example .......we've spent time playing with the kids today and my boys have been here too. Interestingly my nephew was saying last night what a great Dad he always thought Mr woo was and said he was always surprised that he never smacked our kids. He went on to say - I did try but ...........J is so naughty smacking is the only thing that works with him. I just said ...........well quite clearly it isn't working is it? J is in trouble at pre school for hitting other children ......................I wonder why? I feel really upset by this .............the boy was talking to himself earlier saying 'stop pulling J's hair - that's naughty - it hurts'. I looked at his mum and she smiled and shrugged and said 'oh he's always doing that'. CRIKEY  there's trouble looming.

Oh wen you put it like that

I know it sounds harsh Sooz, but maybe they need to be reported somewhere? I dunno. I'm not an expert  It just seems to me (from the outside) that they need some kind of a kick up the pants 

My brother in law is the same, he had a shit upbringing (caused by the evil da) yet his 3 brothers (my OH included) are great fellas and have made it their goal to give their kids everything they never had....top of the list being LOVE!  Yet this one brother is a replica of the da.  My own sister is another, we had a pretty good upbringing and although we didn't have money our Mum would have sold her soul to make sure we felt loved and had food on the table yet my sister could care less about her kids and they are a terrible nuisance to her yet she is having kids left right and centre!

 

/rant.

TBH ..............although it's bad .....it's relative. I don't think it's bad enough to report it's just ignorance .................I don't believe he's beating him. i do agree they need help though.

Oh dear Soozy

Ah Sooz, I remember being far more judgmental about parenting skills when I was a youngster(ish). Now, I'm just happy that it's someone else's kids, or other parents, getting it wrong!

 

Funnily enough, Mr Blizz was moaning about our 20 year old son today, while his parents were here, and was just about to say how he was like my side of the family (as he always does   and they started spouting out loads of stories about his misdeamenours at a similar age. I just sat there saying, "Oh, who's he like?" 

 

It'll all come out in the wash, as they say. 

Maybe even the carpet!