This supposed fourth person involved been charged?

http://news.bbc.co.uk


All so sick, poor kids and their families

although people may not understand what I'm about to say, please remember its only my opinion.

I feel a lot more sorry for the parents than the children. The children are young & will get plenty of help & support & they also have the luxury of their age.

On the other hand the poor parents will remember it in detail for the rest of their lives & they do not get any help (mentally). They will be the ones blaming themselves & seeing that their childs innocence has been lost.

Abo

It sure is a horrid situation

it makes me ill thinking about it. theres no words to describe them.

I hope this evil monstrosity pays over and over for the rest of her life.

That's not always the case.  You can never get the support you need to come to terms with something like this.  No matter how young or old you are there are so many divergent layers, there is absolutely no 'luxury' to it.

I think what Abo meant was that the children were so young that they could come out of this with very little harm, mentally, as they would not have understood what was happening.

Obviously, we don't know the full details, but I hope that there was no physical damage.

I know its the Sun but its good information

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/ho...-escape-justice.html

& its not the police farce force that let these people away with it, its the Crown Proscecution Services (CPS) that decide the merits of the case. Pack of fucken wankers

Oh Jesus dont get me started on that woman and her associates

Is it just me that gets thoroughly pissed off with the Suns constant use of the word "cops" for the police?

Fiends as well, such emotive language will go down well with the Sun readership.

In no way am I playing down this disgusting story and if it is true, well the police need to do more, I'm just sick of reading this and the way American spelling is becoming more used over here, not having a go at our American friends, I just always think of my English teacher when I read it.

I agree with the cops word. It drives me nucking futs

Reference Abo. "The children are young & will get plenty of help & support"


For any child affected I hope they receive the help they need, how long lasting it will be as the children grow up only they will find out later in life, how much will be remembered on a conscious level, and how much will be stored in the subconscious that may create problems in their life without them understanding why.

It's assumed that females don't take part in such things with children, whether their own, or others. I'm sure it doesn't happen as much as it does with males subjecting children to this but it may not be as rare as some people assume, just not talked or known about as much.

I know a woman in her 30's who was sexually abused by her mother from a very young age, also by her brother and other male members in the family. She was also beaten, locked in cupboards, denied food, and often made to sleep on the floor.

She has a lot of memories of that time, her mother is still alive and an alcoholic now, she never sees her but absolutely hates her and wishes she was dead. Quite a contradiction to the person I know who is one of the sweetest, kindest and most caring people I've ever met. She constantly wants to help others, cannot stand anyone suffering, went into the nursing profession because she cared about others, and then worked with the elderly because she cared about their well being.

Her personal life has been a disaster many times and she's often felt suicidal, her physical health is an ongoing challenge, the same as her emotional health. 2 men fathered her children, both men were abusive and violent, eventually with help of another friend and I we got her to leave the last one and move nearer to my friend who is also helping her in many ways. I've been told details of what she's been through and it's so painful, and often very uncomfortable to listen to, how much harder is it for anyone to have all that in their background and to try and live a life that's balanced and healthy in all areas. I've learnt also from others I've come across that whether abuse is sexual, physical or emotional it leaves a scar that is so damaging that the abuser has no clue about.

 

the woman you are speaking of is in her 30's. Her pattern of abuse was also a long drawn out sorry state of affairs which I feel so saddened about. But speaking from experience children now are given that much support & help that I've actually heard one say "can we not come here anymore cause its in the past & I wanna enjoy life (6yo)". Smart kid & still very very cheeky too.

The thing with these families that go thru situations like this is that because of how intensive the therapy, family counselling & one on one counselling is, what I would call normal family life dosen't exist because you are just living from moment to moment.

Like I said her story saddens me but it is brilliant to know that this hasn't stopped her from helping others. She now needs to seek help for herself & there are plenty of places that are willing to help.

 Reference Abo.  I can understand why to some that because she's in her 30's it can seem a long time ago, but for her it's still part of her "now", always has been whatever the year, as it is for so many who aren't children any longer. Believe me another friend and I tried for a very long time to persuade her to receive professional help, she needs it, but she's absolutely terrified of what she'll have to deal with, relive, through whatever a particular counselling and their method she'd be expected to take part in.

Through my friend and I she did agree eventually to make an appointment with a hypnotherapist who she felt maybe able to help her as while under hypnosis she wouldn't have to relive her experiences in the same raw way as she did in her memories, but it reached a point while under hypnosis it all felt to real and she came out of it and fled the room and never returned.

For those children that can come through such an experience with the help of counselling or whatever help I think thank goodness for them. From my experience of quite a few I know life is such that for some the struggle is continually ongoing, I just hope they all get to where they want to be in life.