In the same well Angel was informing Lisa that Noirin was an adult and able to make her own decisions regarding the hunger strike, so Angel is free to make hers, although I agree with many that she may have eating issues. However, Rod's point about it giving a bad message to viewers who may be more vulnerable I thought was more mature than what the two others were saying... by far!
quote:Originally posted by stonks:
Angel is just trying to prove a point to Lisa now that it can be done as for the spagetti water even she should know their is nothing beneficial in it only. She should have listened to Rodders, she is setting a bad example to young people....
I agree that it's not really a very clever thing to televise, things like that put ideas into peoples heads. I used to eat tissues to feel full because I saw someone talking about it on TV.
quote:Originally posted by Queen of the High Teas:quote:Originally posted by stonks:
Angel is just trying to prove a point to Lisa now that it can be done as for the spagetti water even she should know their is nothing beneficial in it only. She should have listened to Rodders, she is setting a bad example to young people....
I agree that it's not really a very clever thing to televise, things like that put ideas into peoples heads. I used to eat tissues to feel full because I saw someone talking about it on TV.
I know how easily something can be put into someones head, when I was 15 I thought I was fat, I was a size 8 but I did'nt understand sizes and that was small....
I think Rodrigo was giving her good sound advice as a friend .
quote:Originally posted by stonks:quote:Originally posted by Queen of the High Teas:quote:Originally posted by stonks:
Angel is just trying to prove a point to Lisa now that it can be done as for the spagetti water even she should know their is nothing beneficial in it only. She should have listened to Rodders, she is setting a bad example to young people....
I agree that it's not really a very clever thing to televise, things like that put ideas into peoples heads. I used to eat tissues to feel full because I saw someone talking about it on TV.
I know how easily something can be put into someones head, when I was 15 I thought I was fat, I was a size 8 but I did'nt understand sizes and that was small....
Snap.
quote:Originally posted by stonks:quote:Originally posted by Queen of the High Teas:quote:Originally posted by stonks:
Angel is just trying to prove a point to Lisa now that it can be done as for the spagetti water even she should know their is nothing beneficial in it only. She should have listened to Rodders, she is setting a bad example to young people....
I agree that it's not really a very clever thing to televise, things like that put ideas into peoples heads. I used to eat tissues to feel full because I saw someone talking about it on TV.
I know how easily something can be put into someones head, when I was 15 I thought I was fat, I was a size 8 but I did'nt understand sizes and that was small....
This is what I think is wrong about what she is doing. It only takes one impressionable young girl (or boy) to watch her and think it's OK and start starving themselves and it can so easily get out of control.
quote:Originally posted by jessejay:She knows what she is doing , she probably does this when in training, drinking the water from the Spaghetti is a way to get nutrients, I know people who drink the water from cabbage.quote:Originally posted by erinp:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by jessejay:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Marguerita:
It can be dangerous and I feel she has done it before she looks very unhealthy , I think she has eating problems I dont know why she feels she has to prove it can be done, but this is only my opinion I could be wrong could be a way of getting attention.
Yes I know of drinking cabbage water (even tried it before) and did wonder if there was anything in spaghetti water other than starch which was beneficial, I just find her strange sucking on raw eggs etc lol
starch breaks down into glucose
though it wold be easier to just drink sugar water lolquote:Originally posted by Queen of the High Teas:quote:Originally posted by stonks:quote:Originally posted by Queen of the High Teas:quote:Originally posted by stonks:
Angel is just trying to prove a point to Lisa now that it can be done as for the spagetti water even she should know their is nothing beneficial in it only. She should have listened to Rodders, she is setting a bad example to young people....
I agree that it's not really a very clever thing to televise, things like that put ideas into peoples heads. I used to eat tissues to feel full because I saw someone talking about it on TV.
I know how easily something can be put into someones head, when I was 15 I thought I was fat, I was a size 8 but I did'nt understand sizes and that was small....
Snap.
Angel is a boxer, she knows what she's talking about.
True, theres nothing like repeated blows to the head to make you talk sense eventually.quote:Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
Angel is a boxer, she knows what she's talking about.
quote:Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
Angel is a boxer, she knows what she's talking about.
quote:Originally posted by faerykelstar:quote:Originally posted by stonks:quote:Originally posted by Queen of the High Teas:quote:Originally posted by stonks:
Angel is just trying to prove a point to Lisa now that it can be done as for the spagetti water even she should know their is nothing beneficial in it only. She should have listened to Rodders, she is setting a bad example to young people....
I agree that it's not really a very clever thing to televise, things like that put ideas into peoples heads. I used to eat tissues to feel full because I saw someone talking about it on TV.
I know how easily something can be put into someones head, when I was 15 I thought I was fat, I was a size 8 but I did'nt understand sizes and that was small....
This is what I think is wrong about what she is doing. It only takes one impressionable young girl (or boy) to watch her and think it's OK and start starving themselves and it can so easily get out of control.
Exactly faery..I'm having to keep an eye on my 13yr old son at the minute and as much as I like her as a HM I think she's talking through her arse..I used to weight train and I know about neutrision but she strikes me as having some sort of eating disorder, she certainly does'nt look fit and well....
quote:Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
Angel is a boxer, she knows what she's talking about.
So she says....
quote:Originally posted by stonks:
Exactly faery..I'm having to keep an eye on my 13yr old son at the minute and as much as I like her as a HM I think she's talking through her arse..I used to weight train and I know about neutrision but she strikes me as having some sort of eating disorder, she certainly does'nt look fit and well....
She does look very slim and pasty. I just don't think she realises how influencial the HMs actions can be too young people on the outside. There is already a huge culture of thin = perfect and her giving tips is not healthy for anyone considering it to watch.
quote:Not eating for 3 days? Is that healthy?
Not if you tell Lisa you're doing it!
I presume the production company have a "Duty of Care" towards the contestants, so the onus is on them.
It's healthier than Cairon's 'In one end, out the same end' diet.
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
It's healthier than Cairon's 'In one end, out the same end' diet.
less fibre though..
Spagetti water is salted water how can that be good for anyone salt is bad for you
quote:Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
Angel is a boxer, she knows what she's talking about.
Mike Tyson's a boxer and he eats peoples ears. Go figure.
I once had to go without food for 4 days. I was in hospital for an operation so of course no food beforehand, the op was cancelled 3 times because of emergencies but they still never fed me in case they could fit me in.
The first two days were a struggle seeing and smelling other patients food at meal times. By Day 3 and 4 I had no hunger pains or desire to eat and felt absolutely fine, I had liquids of course, it's a great detox lol not that I'm recommending it for everyone, just saying how I felt really well
The first two days were a struggle seeing and smelling other patients food at meal times. By Day 3 and 4 I had no hunger pains or desire to eat and felt absolutely fine, I had liquids of course, it's a great detox lol not that I'm recommending it for everyone, just saying how I felt really well
quote:Originally posted by Yellow Rose:
I once had to go without food for 4 days. I was in hospital for an operation so of course no food beforehand, the op was cancelled 3 times because of emergencies but they still never fed me in case they could fit me in.
The first two days were a struggle seeing and smelling other patients food at meal times. By Day 3 and 4 I had no hunger pains or desire to eat and felt absolutely fine, I had liquids of course, it's a great detox lol not that I'm recommending it for everyone, just saying how I felt really well
Surely you were on a saline drip?
quote:Originally posted by Karma_:quote:Originally posted by Yellow Rose:
I once had to go without food for 4 days. I was in hospital for an operation so of course no food beforehand, the op was cancelled 3 times because of emergencies but they still never fed me in case they could fit me in.
The first two days were a struggle seeing and smelling other patients food at meal times. By Day 3 and 4 I had no hunger pains or desire to eat and felt absolutely fine, I had liquids of course, it's a great detox lol not that I'm recommending it for everyone, just saying how I felt really well
Surely you were on a saline drip?
Ah just read you were on fluids
quote:Originally posted by Karma_:quote:Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
Angel is a boxer, she knows what she's talking about.
Mike Tyson's a boxer and he eats peoples ears. Go figure.
Good source of protein.
If she had anything about her she would not starve herself ,she has been told she will be sending out the wrong message and she has ignored this, I hope she changes her mind just dont understand she can not see this.
quote:Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:quote:Originally posted by Karma_:quote:Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
Angel is a boxer, she knows what she's talking about.
Mike Tyson's a boxer and he eats peoples ears. Go figure.
Good source of protein.
Are you well?
quote:Originally posted by Karma_:quote:Originally posted by Yellow Rose:
I once had to go without food for 4 days. I was in hospital for an operation so of course no food beforehand, the op was cancelled 3 times because of emergencies but they still never fed me in case they could fit me in.
The first two days were a struggle seeing and smelling other patients food at meal times. By Day 3 and 4 I had no hunger pains or desire to eat and felt absolutely fine, I had liquids of course, it's a great detox lol not that I'm recommending it for everyone, just saying how I felt really well
Surely you were on a saline drip?
No, honestly, just liquids
quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:
If she had anything about her she would not starve herself ,she has been told she will be sending out the wrong message and she has ignored this, I hope she changes her mind just dont understand she can not see this.
Whose she sending messages to? And if you think so strongly about this why do you think the producers have included this in their story line?
quote:Originally posted by Karma_:quote:Originally posted by Karma_:quote:Originally posted by Yellow Rose:
I once had to go without food for 4 days. I was in hospital for an operation so of course no food beforehand, the op was cancelled 3 times because of emergencies but they still never fed me in case they could fit me in.
The first two days were a struggle seeing and smelling other patients food at meal times. By Day 3 and 4 I had no hunger pains or desire to eat and felt absolutely fine, I had liquids of course, it's a great detox lol not that I'm recommending it for everyone, just saying how I felt really well
Surely you were on a saline drip?
Ah just read you were on fluids
Yes
and they're really important to the body, people can go without food for several days without major problems but being denied liquids is risky. I think Angel said she was doing it for 3 days so she'll be fine as she's taking liquids and BB would moniter her anywayquote:Originally posted by Karma_:quote:Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:quote:Originally posted by Karma_:quote:Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
Angel is a boxer, she knows what she's talking about.
Mike Tyson's a boxer and he eats peoples ears. Go figure.
Good source of protein.
Are you well?
Quite well thank you, how are you ?
She is sending the wrong message to young people that it is okay to starve yourself for three days ,sorry my opinion is not the same as yours I like Angel but that does not mean I think everything she does is right, I havent got tunnell vision were she is concerned or any of the HMSquote:Originally posted by VesnaWasRobbed:quote:Originally posted by Marguerita:
If she had anything about her she would not starve herself ,she has been told she will be sending out the wrong message and she has ignored this, I hope she changes her mind just dont understand she can not see this.
Whose she sending messages to? And if you think so strongly about this why do you think the producers have included this in their story line?
No-one ever hear of detox ?
quote:Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
No-one ever hear of detox ?
In my post above I mentioned detox, ok in my case it was enforced by circumstances not choice, 4 days without food did me no harm at all in fact I was surprised how good I felt physically.
quote:Originally posted by Yellow Rose:quote:Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
No-one ever hear of detox ?
In my post above I mentioned detox, ok in my case it was enforced by circumstances not choice, 4 days without food did me no harm at all in fact I was surprised how good I felt physically.
My training partner (martial arts) swears by it. Every now and then (think it's twice a year) he takes a week off and has fluids only. Never tried it myself but it certainly doesn't seem to do him any harm.
Proper Detoxing is not starving yourself of food you detox your body with eating certain fruits vegetables etc.
quote:Originally posted by stonks:
Angel is just trying to prove a point to Lisa now that it can be done as for the spagetti water even she should know their is nothing beneficial in it only. She should have listened to Rodders, she is setting a bad example to young people....
I'm with you on that one Stonks, but Noiriin is as bad, 'I need to lose some weight anyway' she's like a stick insect
what is that telling the young girls that watch 
And anyways fasting for 3 days, as long as you are fit and healthy is ok, I do it all the time *munch munch*
Detoxing is a load of bollox.
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
Detoxing is a load of bollox.
ok
can't see that not eating for 3 days is harmful to anyone who is moderately fit