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Originally posted by Flossie:
Well I was happy that your provided whatever level of detail you felt appropriate.

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Originally posted by Justafriend:

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Originally posted by Flossie:

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Originally posted by Justafriend:
but theres nothing appealling about reducing someone to tears because of their appearence Felix its just sad.
sorry to disagree.

Oh God, how naive you are!

Surely you must be aware that BB producers are looking for conflict and drama in the house?

If a bunch of intelligent well balanced and caring types were in the house BB would be blasted by viewers as boring.

Did you see the VT by Craig from BB6(7?) in which he said he liked to hate people and to be hated and to destroy other people? Any reality show with the intentions you suggest would have avoided him! I just wish they had.

you like insulting people dont you,
the other night i was a dimwit something else and had no social skills. now your having another personal go at me.
i could tell you to do what noirin told marcus to do...but i wont im to polite...there ya go theres social skills for ya!

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by Flossie:
Well I was happy that your provided whatever level of detail you felt appropriate.

Well, my answer would be I would be myself. Whether that is palatable to the GBP is a matter for them. If you were to ask what constitutes 'being myself' then I would refer you to my previous response: I haven't chosen to take part in a TV show a consequence of which is public scrutiny and as I haven't, I reserve the right not to remark.

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Originally posted by Flossie:


Did you see the VT by Craig from BB6(7?) in which he said he liked to hate people and to be hated and to destroy other people? Any reality show with the intentions you suggest would have avoided him! I just wish they had.

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Originally posted by RENTON:
KG - Noirin basically says she used to reduce people to tears by picking on their insecurities to the piont of them crying
She sez she likes to use men and flirt with them . . .

And on and on - you get the picdture

All sed with a smile

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Originally posted by Flossie:

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by Flossie:
Well I was happy that your provided whatever level of detail you felt appropriate.

Well, my answer would be I would be myself. Whether that is palatable to the GBP is a matter for them. If you were to ask what constitutes 'being myself' then I would refer you to my previous response: I haven't chosen to take part in a TV show a consequence of which is public scrutiny and as I haven't, I reserve the right not to remark.

In which case you would have failed to get in the house.

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Originally posted by Justafriend:

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Originally posted by felix:

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Originally posted by Justafriend:
but theres nothing appealling about reducing someone to tears because of their appearence Felix its just sad.
sorry to disagree.

I used 'appealing' in more ways than the obvious real meaning. We are talking BB VT cutting room floor off cuts here!
You cannot take a spliced up, hacked to pieces snippet of comments, without having heard the questions and full answers to those questions as the truth to someones life and personality.
You'll be telling me you believe the Daily Star and the Sun next.

shuts up and goes to read the sun!!

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by Flossie:

Indeed, some hms have been picked for their ludicrous niceness as some sort of qwerky character trait e.g. Rachel, but on the whole the incentives in the selection process are to be confrontational, socially inept, attractive, underdeveloped, outraegous, naive or challenged in some way.

As I said before, a Daily Mail reporter wrote a long article about their application and they put in the most outrageous and primitive character responses in their answers, and nearly made it into the house. All the incentives in the selection process were to exaggerate one's worst character traits.

The BB selectors clearly also have some agenda for gathering gays, bis, ethnics etc and other freaks and so if you fit into those slots then one does not have to exaggerate one's character, but if you are normal and charming like Noirin you need to give the selectors a reason to select you and fortunately for her she was attractive enough to be selected, and Irish of course, which is another group the BB selectors always pick.

You lost me at 'Daily Mail'..

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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by Flossie:

Indeed, some hms have been picked for their ludicrous niceness as some sort of qwerky character trait e.g. Rachel, but on the whole the incentives in the selection process are to be confrontational, socially inept, attractive, underdeveloped, outraegous, naive or challenged in some way.

As I said before, a Daily Mail reporter wrote a long article about their application and they put in the most outrageous and primitive character responses in their answers, and nearly made it into the house. All the incentives in the selection process were to exaggerate one's worst character traits.

The BB selectors clearly also have some agenda for gathering gays, bis, ethnics etc and other freaks and so if you fit into those slots then one does not have to exaggerate one's character, but if you are normal and charming like Noirin you need to give the selectors a reason to select you and fortunately for her she was attractive enough to be selected, and Irish of course, which is another group the BB selectors always pick.

You lost me at 'Daily Mail'..

In that case you missed this gem of a phrase! "gays, bis, ethnics etc and other freaks"

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Originally posted by Flossie:

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Originally posted by Lindsxdx:

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Originally posted by Flossie:

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Originally posted by Lindsxdx:
See, you can't have it both ways. Either she exagerating to get on the show, in which case she has kept up the charade perfectly for months and has been able to manipulate us all in to believing she is a nasty cow or she is open and honest and she truly is a nasty cow.

Huh?

Just read back this illogical drivel.

She has demonstrated consistently that she is caring, affectionate, generously spirited individual who contributes to the group and cares for the feelings of others, even objectionable twats like Sree.

She has never been unpleasant or malicious in the house. Compare that with Charlie, Marcus, Kris, Karly, David, Lisa even Rodrigo. Others have not had the opportunity to be unpleasant because they have been at the bottom of the pecking order, e.g. Freddie and Hira. Noirin has the option of being unpleasant because of her social skills and standing but she chooses to spread affection and goodwill when she can, even Bea doesn't quite match up to her.

Flossie, its not that difficult to understand. Either she is streching the truth or being open and honest? Which one is it?

Thats twice now you have refered to my opinion as drivel, the time I refused to stoop to your level , now I am gonna, your talking total bollocks.

"She has never been unpleasant or malicious in the house" thats an out and out lie.

It is very simple, she related some school experiences to stretch the truth about her current character for the purposes of succeeding in the selection process.

Provide an example where she has been either, and I would be prepared to accept examples where she has been seriously provoked.

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Originally posted by Lindsxdx:
So if it was from her school days, why do they majority of the audience feel that she is exactly the same in the house.

Siavashs gf has done nothing to provoke her but was told to "bring it on, she doesn't give fk, he is mine now", that was pretty malicious.

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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:
In that case you missed this gem of a phrase! "gays, bis, ethnics etc and other freaks"

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The BB selectors clearly also have some agenda for gathering gays, bis, ethnics etc and other freaks

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
I have posted once before on this thread, thanking Noirin for her kind explanation of some of her character traits (on vt), which we have been able to compare with what we already know.

What we know about her now is her coldness, her calculating nature, her very manipulative actions, and her terribly off-kilter flirting style. What we also know is that she loves lots of male attention. We are also aware that she will use any trick in the book to reach the final. Another character trait in her which is noticeable is that she does not get on with her own sex very well, and can make some very nasty comments about women in general. Think Hira, think Angel, think Karly.

Her vt was truthful up to a point. There are shades of the character we now know as Noirin, but she failed to add the ones I listed above so, in a way, I have done her a favour and helped her out.

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Originally posted by Flossie:

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
I have posted once before on this thread, thanking Noirin for her kind explanation of some of her character traits (on vt), which we have been able to compare with what we already know.

What we know about her now is her coldness, her calculating nature, her very manipulative actions, and her terribly off-kilter flirting style. What we also know is that she loves lots of male attention. We are also aware that she will use any trick in the book to reach the final. Another character trait in her which is noticeable is that she does not get on with her own sex very well, and can make some very nasty comments about women in general. Think Hira, think Angel, think Karly.

Her vt was truthful up to a point. There are shades of the character we now know as Noirin, but she failed to add the ones I listed above so, in a way, I have done her a favour and helped her out.

Drivel of astonishingly high order.

Angel adores Noirin and admitted this again in a recent BBLB! She loved her at one point but naturally Noirin wasn't interested in a lesbot relationship.

Hira described Noirin has her very good friend in the nominations yesterday and nominated Siavash in defence of Noirin!

No one outside the Lisa club liked Karly, who was an abrasive, self-interested character, and Noirin was disliked by Karly because of Lisa's venomous propaganda. And of course Karly was so unpopular she was nominated and evicted. So the lack of friendship between Karly and Noirin, which seemed to based on some confusion and Lisa, is not evidence at all of some defect in Noirin.

How you can make comments that have no basis in fact whatsoever but instead are the product of delusion or wishful thinking, presumably as a result of resentment, jealousy or something unpleasant, is extraordinary.

Noirin is anything but cold, she has demonstrated a remarkably generous and caring spirit, and even put up with the attentions of twats like Sree and stifling from Marcus, yet she still managed to show concern for the feelings of these people.

She has shown concern for the group and no inclination to selfishness or self-promotion. She has shown remarkably maturity and social skills.

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:
In that case you missed this gem of a phrase! "gays, bis, ethnics etc and other freaks"

Oh my...

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Originally posted by Lindsxdx:
http://gagajoyjoy.com/eve/foru...20102461&m=203106603
So if it was from her school days, why do they majority of the audience feel that she is exactly the same in the house.

Siavashs gf has done nothing to provoke her but was told to "bring it on, she doesn't give fk, he is mine now", that was pretty malicious.

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Originally posted by SazBomb:

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:
In that case you missed this gem of a phrase! "gays, bis, ethnics etc and other freaks"

Oh my...

I knew there was a reason I didn't bother reading his posts

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Originally posted by Flossie:

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Originally posted by Lindsxdx:

So if it was from her school days, why do they majority of the audience feel that she is exactly the same in the house.

Siavashs gf has done nothing to provoke her but was told to "bring it on, she doesn't give fk, he is mine now", that was pretty malicious.

Some of the audience, usually the intellectually-challenged, regard her as a flirt, when in fact they don't appreciate that Noirin has been assailed by passionate admirers and because she is compassionate and caring she finds it difficult to heartlessly dismiss sincere advances.

Any self-centred, uncaring female would have told Sree where to go immediately, and even though he was an objectionable, conceited, social misfit, Noirin put up with him longer than any human should have to with a patience that was almost saintly.

Noirin is generous in her affections and care, but alas the dim-witted can't see her rich caring and considerate approach because she is nuanced. Not for her the vocal pronouncement of caring to be found in Lisa and her like, Noirin does care and her sensitivity to the feelings of Marcus have demonstrated this repeatedly.

I gave a long explanation about Siavash's gf. Remember that Siavash has just declared that his "girlfriend" never was his girlfriend, he was merely going out with her for a month before BB, and he only said that she was his girlfriend in BB to avoid relationship problems. So as far as Noirin is concerned she isn't a girlfriend, she has to believe what Sivash says. Additionally I think at the time she said those things she was trying to announce her affection to Siavash in public because she was feeling guilty about not showing him affection in private. She said it in a mock tone of battling spirit. It was clearly a joke to those of us who can appreciate moderately sophisticated humour and social banter.

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Originally posted by cologne1:
You have got it bad, on a par with Marcus and Siavash. Keep the faith.

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Originally posted by Skylark24:

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Originally posted by Flossie:

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Originally posted by Lindsxdx:

So if it was from her school days, why do they majority of the audience feel that she is exactly the same in the house.

Siavashs gf has done nothing to provoke her but was told to "bring it on, she doesn't give fk, he is mine now", that was pretty malicious.

Some of the audience, usually the intellectually-challenged, regard her as a flirt, when in fact they don't appreciate that Noirin has been assailed by passionate admirers and because she is compassionate and caring she finds it difficult to heartlessly dismiss sincere advances.

Any self-centred, uncaring female would have told Sree where to go immediately, and even though he was an objectionable, conceited, social misfit, Noirin put up with him longer than any human should have to with a patience that was almost saintly.

Noirin is generous in her affections and care, but alas the dim-witted can't see her rich caring and considerate approach because she is nuanced. Not for her the vocal pronouncement of caring to be found in Lisa and her like, Noirin does care and her sensitivity to the feelings of Marcus have demonstrated this repeatedly.

I gave a long explanation about Siavash's gf. Remember that Siavash has just declared that his "girlfriend" never was his girlfriend, he was merely going out with her for a month before BB, and he only said that she was his girlfriend in BB to avoid relationship problems. So as far as Noirin is concerned she isn't a girlfriend, she has to believe what Sivash says. Additionally I think at the time she said those things she was trying to announce her affection to Siavash in public because she was feeling guilty about not showing him affection in private. She said it in a mock tone of battling spirit. It was clearly a joke to those of us who can appreciate moderately sophisticated humour and social banter.

Are you being serious?

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Originally posted by Flossie:

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Originally posted by Skylark24:

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Originally posted by Flossie:

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Originally posted by Lindsxdx:

So if it was from her school days, why do they majority of the audience feel that she is exactly the same in the house.

Siavashs gf has done nothing to provoke her but was told to "bring it on, she doesn't give fk, he is mine now", that was pretty malicious.

Some of the audience, usually the intellectually-challenged, regard her as a flirt, when in fact they don't appreciate that Noirin has been assailed by passionate admirers and because she is compassionate and caring she finds it difficult to heartlessly dismiss sincere advances.

Any self-centred, uncaring female would have told Sree where to go immediately, and even though he was an objectionable, conceited, social misfit, Noirin put up with him longer than any human should have to with a patience that was almost saintly.

Noirin is generous in her affections and care, but alas the dim-witted can't see her rich caring and considerate approach because she is nuanced. Not for her the vocal pronouncement of caring to be found in Lisa and her like, Noirin does care and her sensitivity to the feelings of Marcus have demonstrated this repeatedly.

I gave a long explanation about Siavash's gf. Remember that Siavash has just declared that his "girlfriend" never was his girlfriend, he was merely going out with her for a month before BB, and he only said that she was his girlfriend in BB to avoid relationship problems. So as far as Noirin is concerned she isn't a girlfriend, she has to believe what Sivash says. Additionally I think at the time she said those things she was trying to announce her affection to Siavash in public because she was feeling guilty about not showing him affection in private. She said it in a mock tone of battling spirit. It was clearly a joke to those of us who can appreciate moderately sophisticated humour and social banter.

Are you being serious?

If you tried thinking about the issues a little more deeply then you would appreciate my comments.

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Originally posted by Flossie:

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Originally posted by SazBomb:

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:
In that case you missed this gem of a phrase! "gays, bis, ethnics etc and other freaks"

Oh my...

I knew there was a reason I didn't bother reading his posts

It was just a one word mis-phrasing of the sentence. I am having to write so many posts at speed I am inevitably going to make some typing errors.

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Originally posted by Flossie:

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Originally posted by Lindsxdx:

So if it was from her school days, why do they majority of the audience feel that she is exactly the same in the house.

Siavashs gf has done nothing to provoke her but was told to "bring it on, she doesn't give fk, he is mine now", that was pretty malicious.

Some of the audience, usually the intellectually-challenged, regard her as a flirt, when in fact they don't appreciate that Noirin has been assailed by passionate admirers and because she is compassionate and caring she finds it difficult to heartlessly dismiss sincere advances.

Any self-centred, uncaring female would have told Sree where to go immediately, and even though he was an objectionable, conceited, social misfit, Noirin put up with him longer than any human should have to with a patience that was almost saintly.

Noirin is generous in her affections and care, but alas the dim-witted can't see her rich caring and considerate approach because she is nuanced. Not for her the vocal pronouncement of caring to be found in Lisa and her like, Noirin does care and her sensitivity to the feelings of Marcus have demonstrated this repeatedly.

I gave a long explanation about Siavash's gf. Remember that Siavash has just declared that his "girlfriend" never was his girlfriend, he was merely going out with her for a month before BB, and he only said that she was his girlfriend in BB to avoid relationship problems. So as far as Noirin is concerned she isn't a girlfriend, she has to believe what Sivash says. Additionally I think at the time she said those things she was trying to announce her affection to Siavash in public because she was feeling guilty about not showing him affection in private. She said it in a mock tone of battling spirit. It was clearly a joke to those of us who can appreciate moderately sophisticated humour and social banter.

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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:

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Originally posted by Flossie:

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Originally posted by SazBomb:

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:
In that case you missed this gem of a phrase! "gays, bis, ethnics etc and other freaks"

Oh my...

I knew there was a reason I didn't bother reading his posts

It was just a one word mis-phrasing of the sentence. I am having to write so many posts at speed I am inevitably going to make some typing errors.

No.. I've thought and thought and can't come up with the word you mistyped freak for. Best I can come up with is 'minorities' and it's a bit of a typo to get freaks from that. Unless of you course meant 'subconscious error'.

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Originally posted by Lindsxdx:

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Originally posted by Flossie:

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Originally posted by Lindsxdx:

So if it was from her school days, why do they majority of the audience feel that she is exactly the same in the house.

Siavashs gf has done nothing to provoke her but was told to "bring it on, she doesn't give fk, he is mine now", that was pretty malicious.

Some of the audience, usually the intellectually-challenged, regard her as a flirt, when in fact they don't appreciate that Noirin has been assailed by passionate admirers and because she is compassionate and caring she finds it difficult to heartlessly dismiss sincere advances.

Any self-centred, uncaring female would have told Sree where to go immediately, and even though he was an objectionable, conceited, social misfit, Noirin put up with him longer than any human should have to with a patience that was almost saintly.

Noirin is generous in her affections and care, but alas the dim-witted can't see her rich caring and considerate approach because she is nuanced. Not for her the vocal pronouncement of caring to be found in Lisa and her like, Noirin does care and her sensitivity to the feelings of Marcus have demonstrated this repeatedly.

I gave a long explanation about Siavash's gf. Remember that Siavash has just declared that his "girlfriend" never was his girlfriend, he was merely going out with her for a month before BB, and he only said that she was his girlfriend in BB to avoid relationship problems. So as far as Noirin is concerned she isn't a girlfriend, she has to believe what Sivash says. Additionally I think at the time she said those things she was trying to announce her affection to Siavash in public because she was feeling guilty about not showing him affection in private. She said it in a mock tone of battling spirit. It was clearly a joke to those of us who can appreciate moderately sophisticated humour and social banter.

Ok, thats your opinion, mine is totally different and I am done dancing around this thread with you. As the old saying goes Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference

Good luck for the eviction this Friday, your girl is going to need it with all these intellectually challenged, self centred, uncaring, dimwitted individuals voting for her as we speak.

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Yes I have, and I am not intellectually challenged. I see Noirin in a completely different light to you. i feel sorry for Siavash and think she has used him to get Marcus off her back, in the same way she used Marcus to get rid of Sree. I dont see her compassion at all, just a very self centred spoilt madam

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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:


No.. I've thought and thought and can't come up with the word you mistyped freak for. Best I can come up with is 'minorities' and it's a bit of a typo to get freaks from that. Unless of you course meant 'subconscious error'.

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Any unprejudiced, non-resentful, non-jealous person who has seen Noirin in her most natural environment in the house such as when she is interacting with Bea, Sophie or Siavash can see that she is caring, sharing, generously-spirited individual who enjoys giving and receiving affection

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Originally posted by Lindsxdx:





Ok, thats your opinion, mine is totally different and I am done dancing around this thread with you. As the old saying goes Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference

Good luck for the eviction this Friday, your girl is going to need it with all these intellectually challenged, self centred, uncaring, dimwitted individuals voting for her as we speak.

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Originally posted by Flossie:

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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:


No.. I've thought and thought and can't come up with the word you mistyped freak for. Best I can come up with is 'minorities' and it's a bit of a typo to get freaks from that. Unless of you course meant 'subconscious error'.

Oh for goodness sake. I never stated it was the word freaks was the problem! I despair at the intellectual capacity of some people on this forum. But then perhaps I shouldn't be surprised at the level of Noirin haters who couldn't think their way out of a paper bag.

The phrase I meant to use was "gays, bis, ethnics etc and freaks"

Because as we all know BB has been accused of being accused of being a freak show because they seem to deliberately recruit them. It really isn't difficult.

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Originally posted by Flossie:

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Originally posted by cologne1:

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Originally posted by Flossie:

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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:


No.. I've thought and thought and can't come up with the word you mistyped freak for. Best I can come up with is 'minorities' and it's a bit of a typo to get freaks from that. Unless of you course meant 'subconscious error'.

Oh for goodness sake. I never stated it was the word freaks was the problem! I despair at the intellectual capacity of some people on this forum. But then perhaps I shouldn't be surprised at the level of Noirin haters who couldn't think their way out of a paper bag.

The phrase I meant to use was "gays, bis, ethnics etc and freaks"

Because as we all know BB has been accused of being accused of being a freak show because they seem to deliberately recruit them. It really isn't difficult.

While it might be mildly amusing to read your drivel, you really are very insulting and don't seem to have any of the social graces you so attribute to Noirin.

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Originally posted by Skylark24:
Just let my 15year old son see her VT and had a talk with him about staying well clear from girls like Noirin. so it has been very educational , maybe it should be shown in schools