Ok this is gonna rage on and on unless we come to a concensus opinion.
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No feelings.
Well I do think she has lead them on, but I also feel sorry for her.
I don't really like or dislike her though.
Well I do think she has lead them on, but I also feel sorry for her.
I don't really like or dislike her though.
Bump for the resident tartlet - LOL
Final Solution? 
That's a bit extreme innit Herr Renton?
That's a bit extreme innit Herr Renton?
sorry - no offence meant
quote:Originally posted by electric6:
Final Solution?
Sounds like he has a bleach bath lined up for her!!
What about 'Can't stand her, but don't think she's flirting'? 
Can a man flirt and lead the women on?
of course he can
I feel different about her at different times. I have no problems with how she acts with Marcus, but by her own admission, she is 'superficial and materialistic' (said in a chat with Marcus the other night) She does , however know she has a lot to learn about life and maybe the house will help her in this!
Not one of my favourite hms, but there are a lot worse!
Not one of my favourite hms, but there are a lot worse!
I've voted no feelings either way, but don't really mean that.
She has been instrumental in giving us loads to talk about during this BB, you can't say she's boring in that respect (where's Hira all the time?).
I think she does lead the men on, she's aware of how men react to her and encourages it.
She's not my favourite housemate, but I do give her credit for livening up this BB.
I'm wondering now if I should have voted she knows what she's doing? Talk about not knowing your own mind. And I'm not even blonde!
She has been instrumental in giving us loads to talk about during this BB, you can't say she's boring in that respect (where's Hira all the time?).
I think she does lead the men on, she's aware of how men react to her and encourages it.
She's not my favourite housemate, but I do give her credit for livening up this BB.
I'm wondering now if I should have voted she knows what she's doing? Talk about not knowing your own mind. And I'm not even blonde!
she knows what shes doing and i think she enjoys watching men try to woo her i just hoping that one day someone she really like does it to her so she can see how it feels to be used .
Shes lapping it all up enjoying every minute.... 
She's led them on, probably as always worked for her in real life, and the other reality show she's been on. 
CONSENSUS so far = She leads men on - she knows wot she is doing
Well well
Well well
Yes she knows what she is doing and leading the men on, but come on they must be enjoying all this attention off her and the flirting. If it was the other way round then maybe people would think differently but Noirin definetly is no angel 
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She knows what she's doing
She is a tease who gives out mixed messages.
End of!
End of!
I record some live feed at night and she spends so much time telling Marcus that they are just friends and she will never fancy him and apart from blanking him altogether what more can she do.
I used to really like him but he is getting a bit disturbing now.
I used to really like him but he is getting a bit disturbing now.
JUDE that was last night - consider the last few weeks then comment again, ok
quote:Originally posted by RENTON:
JUDE that was last night - consider the last few weeks then comment again, ok
RENTON, she has been saying the same thing to him for the last few weeks!
oh that sounded rude - sorry hunny
Mollie - but her actions communicate otherwise - i am never gonna give excuses for marcus et al (not ever)
But Noirin knows she is playing the men
But Noirin knows she is playing the men
Noirin, I find, is a woman who wants to think she is confident and self aware when in fact she is neither. I think Marcus has, over the weeks, convinced her that the only person she can trust is him and now she is unable to break the cycle. This means even when she is telling him that she just wants to be friends she is also worried about how she will cope without his support. Every time she starts to get friendly with any others in the group Marcus is there undermining her basic instincts about people. It's almost like the Stockholm Syndrome. 'dons helmet and waits for the fallout'
I think she picks her victims carefully, men like Sree and Marcus would'nt get anywhere near someone like her in RL. So she played them, they got her noticed. I'm not sure how she would be able to handle Tom, l don't believe she would be able to manipulate him, as she has done with the other two.
quote:Originally posted by Mentalist:
Noirin, I find, is a woman who wants to think she is confident and self aware when in fact she is neither. I think Marcus has, over the weeks, convinced her that the only person she can trust is him and now she is unable to break the cycle. This means even when she is telling him that she just wants to be friends she is also worried about how she will cope without his support. Every time she starts to get friendly with any others in the group Marcus is there undermining her basic instincts about people. It's almost like the Stockholm Syndrome. 'dons helmet and waits for the fallout'
no feelings ,, she doesnt know who sexy she is ,, and the men come on to her first ,, she is just being nice .. but people see it as flirting
omg i did say no feeling lol
omg i did say no feeling lol
quote:Originally posted by Mentalist:
Noirin, I find, is a woman who wants to think she is confident and self aware when in fact she is neither. I think Marcus has, over the weeks, convinced her that the only person she can trust is him and now she is unable to break the cycle. This means even when she is telling him that she just wants to be friends she is also worried about how she will cope without his support. Every time she starts to get friendly with any others in the group Marcus is there undermining her basic instincts about people. It's almost like the Stockholm Syndrome. 'dons helmet and waits for the fallout'
Exactly.
quote:Originally posted by Mollie:quote:Originally posted by RENTON:
JUDE that was last night - consider the last few weeks then comment again, ok
RENTON, she has been saying the same thing to him for the last few weeks!
Mollie it's an uphill struggle on here .....but if you push on so will I - we are few in number but ...............exhausting as it is - I'm pushing on.
Public opinion is very, very unfair on the girl IMO. The knobheads that go all ga ga over her need to take responsibility for their own behaviour IMO.
quote:Originally posted by RENTON:
JUDE that was last night - consider the last few weeks then comment again, ok
She's said it from day one ......obviously you're selective in what you want to see/hear ......rather like Marcus.
quote:Originally posted by Heartache:
I think she picks her victims carefully, men like Sree and Marcus would'nt get anywhere near someone like her in RL. So she played them, they got her noticed. I'm not sure how she would be able to handle Tom, l don't believe she would be able to manipulate him, as she has done with the other two.
I think you are right there, which is probably why she has steered clear of him
As far as I can see the only solution for some is if the girl stopped breathing....I've never saw as many double standards in relation to HM's....No matter what she does she's vilified for it whilst others are excused praised or forgiven.
We all like different HM's, which is what makes it so interesting. We all see these HM's differently and the situations they find themselves in differently. Doesn't make one right and the other wrong, just makes us different.
How boring would it be on here, if we all liked the same and agreed on everything?
How boring would it be on here, if we all liked the same and agreed on everything?
She knows exactly what she is doing.
I think she knows whats shes doing.I think shes always used her charms to be able to get on in life and has always set the rules.I think getting mixed up with Marcus was a big shock for her.She met someone who wasnt going to play by her rules.She tried to get out and side with camp Lisa who rejected her.She had nowhere left to go but back to her constant Marcus.Someone mentiones Stockholm Syndrome earlier and I think to an extent thats true.In fact yesterday I'd have agreed totally.But the fact she was so keen to respond to Siavash the second Marcus was out of the picture doesnt really add up.
Have to say the whole things an enigma to me.I really didnt see the thing with Siavash coming.As far as I could see she'd given him only cursory interest before last night.
Have to say the whole things an enigma to me.I really didnt see the thing with Siavash coming.As far as I could see she'd given him only cursory interest before last night.
I really developed a dislike for Noirin a couple of weeks in. I haven't really forgiven her for saying English girls were easier than Irish girls and then leading the men on. She should have put a stop to Sree and Marcus long before she said anything.
That said I am frustrated by the way Marcus is treating her, she is now speaking up and he refuses to let go. She asks his permission to do things and is effectively letting him control her time in the house and the confident Noirin is being replaced by a bit of a wimp. It must be hard for her not wanting to upset her friend but she is doing it at her own expense. She has moved way down my list of evictee priority though after weeks at the top.
That said I am frustrated by the way Marcus is treating her, she is now speaking up and he refuses to let go. She asks his permission to do things and is effectively letting him control her time in the house and the confident Noirin is being replaced by a bit of a wimp. It must be hard for her not wanting to upset her friend but she is doing it at her own expense. She has moved way down my list of evictee priority though after weeks at the top.
quote:Originally posted by Mazzystar:
I think she knows whats shes doing.I think shes always used her charms to be able to get on in life and has always set the rules.I think getting mixed up with Marcus was a big shock for her.She met someone who wasnt going to play by her rules.She tried to get out and side with camp Lisa who rejected her.She had nowhere left to go but back to her constant Marcus.Someone mentiones Stockholm Syndrome earlier and I think to an extent thats true.In fact yesterday I'd have agreed totally.But the fact she was so keen to respond to Siavash the second Marcus was out of the picture doesnt really add up.
Have to say the whole things an enigma to me.I really didnt see the thing with Siavash coming.As far as I could see she'd given him only cursory interest before last night.
You are just confused because you don't understand human motives or social interactions.
Noirin did not use Marcus at all.
You are oblivious to Noirin's numerous positive because you don't understand the social situation or her sophisticated interaction style and consideration for others.
to be honest if anyone has gotten anything out of the noirin/marcus stuff then its marcus
hed get no air time on his own or he d be bitchin with lisa
hed get no air time on his own or he d be bitchin with lisa
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mazzystar:
She tried to get out and side with camp Lisa who rejected her.She had nowhere left to go but back to her constant Marcus
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Not how I saw it..she had worked hard on getting a foot in the Lisa camp and then Kris was evicted and she scuttled back to Marcus faster than a ferret up a drainpipe.
Now, according to this forum, she has learned that Siavash is fav to win and lo and behold she is under the duvet with him.
She tried to get out and side with camp Lisa who rejected her.She had nowhere left to go but back to her constant Marcus
QUOTE]
Not how I saw it..she had worked hard on getting a foot in the Lisa camp and then Kris was evicted and she scuttled back to Marcus faster than a ferret up a drainpipe.
Now, according to this forum, she has learned that Siavash is fav to win and lo and behold she is under the duvet with him.
quote:Originally posted by Mollie:quote:Originally posted by RENTON:
JUDE that was last night - consider the last few weeks then comment again, ok
RENTON, she has been saying the same thing to him for the last few weeks!
Sorry to say that I am a sad soul that Sky+S about 4 hours a night since it started as I am missing the secret channel and that is my take on the matter. I know I am in a minority but that is how I see it.