quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:
i though this thread was about a bunch of fanatics denying the right of free speech of an elected mep and turning him into a martyr.
in fact, yes it was, then the supporters of the anti democratic fascists/stalinist thugs started posting in this thread.
quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by disley21:quote:Originally posted by StGeorgina:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by StGeorgina:
I hate the fact that everything is so damn one-sided in this country, and a majority are cool with that.
This should work both ways. If Nick Griffins hate speech is to be censored, then the police and the public in general need to STOP accepting hate speech when done under the guise of religion.
Soldiers returning from Iraq being abused and receiving death threats, for instance, is disgusting and offensive behaviour, and yet it was tolerated for the mostpart.
A bigger insult on top of that would be that a couple of folks who retaliated were automatically arrested.
I do not take people too seriously if they lambast the likes of Nick Griffin, whilst allowing the likes of Abu Hamza to freely spew his extremism.
I may have only given a couple of examples, but the failure to treat all hatred with equal contempt is something which regularly disheartens me.
i do agree with most of what you say and you do give plenty of disgusting examples but surely to defend the right of even the most disgusting in society is still the right thing to do, let them hang themselves by allowing them to be heard instead of making heroes out of them.
I was speaking regarding those who wish to take free speech away from the likes of Nick Griffin, but at the same time they do not speak out in the same way when another group try and oppress someone else.
Personally I am not for censorship, people tend to hang themselves pretty well and those who do not realise that free speech comes with a degree of responsibility tend to burn out pretty quick.
I find it a tad inconsistent for those who are condemning Nick Griffin not to also condemn other fanatics, this is my point. Appeasers make me pretty sick.
When one's politics replace ones sense of decency, it ceases to impress me.
Nick Griffin should be allowed to speak, no amount of egg throwing will alter the fact that he is now an elected MEP, and the reasons that was allowed to happen is down to all those who favoured apathy over making a stand. Running up the street with placards and half a dozen sodding free range eggs is pointless.
Show me a fanatic, no matter what side of the coin they're on, and I'll criticise them.
This thread is about one fanatic in particular though...
i though this thread was about a bunch of fanatics denying the right of free speech of an elected mep and turning him into a martyr.
in fact, yes it was, then the supporters of the anti democratic fascists/stalinist thugs started posting in this thread.
quote:Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:
which of course makes you a thug no better than what you are saying about the bnp.
weeell i wouldnt call myself a "thug" exactly,
but I also think that sometimes and on SOME occasions violence needs doing,...especially when I see old film footage of concentration camps, and cattle trucks full of men women and children whose only crime was to be of the wrong race/religion/sexual orientation/ political group/ physical or mental state,etc etc
and then when faced with the type of person who either denies that this happened or agrees that it was the RIGHT thing to do,
( I dont CARE what the BNP SAY they stand for)
cause I have seen the video of Nick admitting that he is LYING just to get the people to vote for him and that when they get in power "things will change"
so yeah I HIS case I WOULD make an exception,
well said...
quote:Pity he didn't react like Prescott: have a real set-to
quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddyostrich:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:
i though this thread was about a bunch of fanatics denying the right of free speech of an elected mep and turning him into a martyr.
in fact, yes it was, then the supporters of the anti democratic fascists/stalinist thugs started posting in this thread.
We proletariat sons of toil like to call that 'stimulating a debate'
quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by disley21:quote:Originally posted by StGeorgina:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by StGeorgina:
I hate the fact that everything is so damn one-sided in this country, and a majority are cool with that.
This should work both ways. If Nick Griffins hate speech is to be censored, then the police and the public in general need to STOP accepting hate speech when done under the guise of religion.
Soldiers returning from Iraq being abused and receiving death threats, for instance, is disgusting and offensive behaviour, and yet it was tolerated for the mostpart.
A bigger insult on top of that would be that a couple of folks who retaliated were automatically arrested.
I do not take people too seriously if they lambast the likes of Nick Griffin, whilst allowing the likes of Abu Hamza to freely spew his extremism.
I may have only given a couple of examples, but the failure to treat all hatred with equal contempt is something which regularly disheartens me.
i do agree with most of what you say and you do give plenty of disgusting examples but surely to defend the right of even the most disgusting in society is still the right thing to do, let them hang themselves by allowing them to be heard instead of making heroes out of them.
I was speaking regarding those who wish to take free speech away from the likes of Nick Griffin, but at the same time they do not speak out in the same way when another group try and oppress someone else.
Personally I am not for censorship, people tend to hang themselves pretty well and those who do not realise that free speech comes with a degree of responsibility tend to burn out pretty quick.
I find it a tad inconsistent for those who are condemning Nick Griffin not to also condemn other fanatics, this is my point. Appeasers make me pretty sick.
When one's politics replace ones sense of decency, it ceases to impress me.
Nick Griffin should be allowed to speak, no amount of egg throwing will alter the fact that he is now an elected MEP, and the reasons that was allowed to happen is down to all those who favoured apathy over making a stand. Running up the street with placards and half a dozen sodding free range eggs is pointless.
Show me a fanatic, no matter what side of the coin they're on, and I'll criticise them.
This thread is about one fanatic in particular though...
i though this thread was about a bunch of fanatics denying the right of free speech of an elected mep and turning him into a martyr.
in fact, yes it was, then the supporters of the anti democratic fascists/stalinist thugs started posting in this thread.
quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddyostrich:
It's all a bit lame, really, isn't it.
You'd expect a couple of cohorts of brown or black shirted goons to wade in, force a pint or two of castor oil down the protestors' throats and force 'em to eat a live toad/frog or two
quote:Originally posted by disley21:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by disley21:quote:Originally posted by StGeorgina:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by StGeorgina:
I hate the fact that everything is so damn one-sided in this country, and a majority are cool with that.
This should work both ways. If Nick Griffins hate speech is to be censored, then the police and the public in general need to STOP accepting hate speech when done under the guise of religion.
Soldiers returning from Iraq being abused and receiving death threats, for instance, is disgusting and offensive behaviour, and yet it was tolerated for the mostpart.
A bigger insult on top of that would be that a couple of folks who retaliated were automatically arrested.
I do not take people too seriously if they lambast the likes of Nick Griffin, whilst allowing the likes of Abu Hamza to freely spew his extremism.
I may have only given a couple of examples, but the failure to treat all hatred with equal contempt is something which regularly disheartens me.
i do agree with most of what you say and you do give plenty of disgusting examples but surely to defend the right of even the most disgusting in society is still the right thing to do, let them hang themselves by allowing them to be heard instead of making heroes out of them.
I was speaking regarding those who wish to take free speech away from the likes of Nick Griffin, but at the same time they do not speak out in the same way when another group try and oppress someone else.
Personally I am not for censorship, people tend to hang themselves pretty well and those who do not realise that free speech comes with a degree of responsibility tend to burn out pretty quick.
I find it a tad inconsistent for those who are condemning Nick Griffin not to also condemn other fanatics, this is my point. Appeasers make me pretty sick.
When one's politics replace ones sense of decency, it ceases to impress me.
Nick Griffin should be allowed to speak, no amount of egg throwing will alter the fact that he is now an elected MEP, and the reasons that was allowed to happen is down to all those who favoured apathy over making a stand. Running up the street with placards and half a dozen sodding free range eggs is pointless.
Show me a fanatic, no matter what side of the coin they're on, and I'll criticise them.
This thread is about one fanatic in particular though...
i though this thread was about a bunch of fanatics denying the right of free speech of an elected mep and turning him into a martyr.
in fact, yes it was, then the supporters of the anti democratic fascists/stalinist thugs started posting in this thread.
We've been over this already, but why is it only Griffin's right to free speech that is mentioned?
Everyone has that right, and thus if I want to stand in front of him booing or whatever I'd be perfectly within MY rights to do so.
It goes both ways.
You CANNOT complain about his right being denied by people who are merely exercising theirs.
It is double standards, plain and simple.
quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:
its not free speech I would like to deny him.....oh no...its free AIR I would deny him,
quote:Originally posted by disley21:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by disley21:quote:Originally posted by StGeorgina:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by StGeorgina:
I hate the fact that everything is so damn one-sided in this country, and a majority are cool with that.
This should work both ways. If Nick Griffins hate speech is to be censored, then the police and the public in general need to STOP accepting hate speech when done under the guise of religion.
Soldiers returning from Iraq being abused and receiving death threats, for instance, is disgusting and offensive behaviour, and yet it was tolerated for the mostpart.
A bigger insult on top of that would be that a couple of folks who retaliated were automatically arrested.
I do not take people too seriously if they lambast the likes of Nick Griffin, whilst allowing the likes of Abu Hamza to freely spew his extremism.
I may have only given a couple of examples, but the failure to treat all hatred with equal contempt is something which regularly disheartens me.
i do agree with most of what you say and you do give plenty of disgusting examples but surely to defend the right of even the most disgusting in society is still the right thing to do, let them hang themselves by allowing them to be heard instead of making heroes out of them.
I was speaking regarding those who wish to take free speech away from the likes of Nick Griffin, but at the same time they do not speak out in the same way when another group try and oppress someone else.
Personally I am not for censorship, people tend to hang themselves pretty well and those who do not realise that free speech comes with a degree of responsibility tend to burn out pretty quick.
I find it a tad inconsistent for those who are condemning Nick Griffin not to also condemn other fanatics, this is my point. Appeasers make me pretty sick.
When one's politics replace ones sense of decency, it ceases to impress me.
Nick Griffin should be allowed to speak, no amount of egg throwing will alter the fact that he is now an elected MEP, and the reasons that was allowed to happen is down to all those who favoured apathy over making a stand. Running up the street with placards and half a dozen sodding free range eggs is pointless.
Show me a fanatic, no matter what side of the coin they're on, and I'll criticise them.
This thread is about one fanatic in particular though...
i though this thread was about a bunch of fanatics denying the right of free speech of an elected mep and turning him into a martyr.
in fact, yes it was, then the supporters of the anti democratic fascists/stalinist thugs started posting in this thread.
We've been over this already, but why is it only Griffin's right to free speech that is mentioned?
Everyone has that right, and thus if I want to stand in front of him booing or whatever I'd be perfectly within MY rights to do so.
It goes both ways.
You CANNOT complain about his right being denied by people who are merely exercising theirs.
It is double standards, plain and simple.
quote:Originally posted by disley21:
Everyone has that right, and thus if I want to stand in front of him booing or whatever I'd be perfectly within MY rights to do so.
quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by disley21:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by disley21:quote:Originally posted by StGeorgina:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by StGeorgina:
I hate the fact that everything is so damn one-sided in this country, and a majority are cool with that.
This should work both ways. If Nick Griffins hate speech is to be censored, then the police and the public in general need to STOP accepting hate speech when done under the guise of religion.
Soldiers returning from Iraq being abused and receiving death threats, for instance, is disgusting and offensive behaviour, and yet it was tolerated for the mostpart.
A bigger insult on top of that would be that a couple of folks who retaliated were automatically arrested.
I do not take people too seriously if they lambast the likes of Nick Griffin, whilst allowing the likes of Abu Hamza to freely spew his extremism.
I may have only given a couple of examples, but the failure to treat all hatred with equal contempt is something which regularly disheartens me.
i do agree with most of what you say and you do give plenty of disgusting examples but surely to defend the right of even the most disgusting in society is still the right thing to do, let them hang themselves by allowing them to be heard instead of making heroes out of them.
I was speaking regarding those who wish to take free speech away from the likes of Nick Griffin, but at the same time they do not speak out in the same way when another group try and oppress someone else.
Personally I am not for censorship, people tend to hang themselves pretty well and those who do not realise that free speech comes with a degree of responsibility tend to burn out pretty quick.
I find it a tad inconsistent for those who are condemning Nick Griffin not to also condemn other fanatics, this is my point. Appeasers make me pretty sick.
When one's politics replace ones sense of decency, it ceases to impress me.
Nick Griffin should be allowed to speak, no amount of egg throwing will alter the fact that he is now an elected MEP, and the reasons that was allowed to happen is down to all those who favoured apathy over making a stand. Running up the street with placards and half a dozen sodding free range eggs is pointless.
Show me a fanatic, no matter what side of the coin they're on, and I'll criticise them.
This thread is about one fanatic in particular though...
i though this thread was about a bunch of fanatics denying the right of free speech of an elected mep and turning him into a martyr.
in fact, yes it was, then the supporters of the anti democratic fascists/stalinist thugs started posting in this thread.
We've been over this already, but why is it only Griffin's right to free speech that is mentioned?
Everyone has that right, and thus if I want to stand in front of him booing or whatever I'd be perfectly within MY rights to do so.
It goes both ways.
You CANNOT complain about his right being denied by people who are merely exercising theirs.
It is double standards, plain and simple.
well for free speech he should be allowed to say what he wants (and hang himself maybe) and yes the leftie thugs should have exactly the same right to say what they want to say, but that isnt what they were doing though is it? i'm not aware that airhorns, threats of violence and throwing things constitutes freedom of speech.
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:quote:Originally posted by disley21:
Everyone has that right, and thus if I want to stand in front of him booing or whatever I'd be perfectly within MY rights to do so.
That's not really true, is it? And what about the eggs? Is that a right, too?
quote:Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by disley21:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by disley21:quote:Originally posted by StGeorgina:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by StGeorgina:
I hate the fact that everything is so damn one-sided in this country, and a majority are cool with that.
This should work both ways. If Nick Griffins hate speech is to be censored, then the police and the public in general need to STOP accepting hate speech when done under the guise of religion.
Soldiers returning from Iraq being abused and receiving death threats, for instance, is disgusting and offensive behaviour, and yet it was tolerated for the mostpart.
A bigger insult on top of that would be that a couple of folks who retaliated were automatically arrested.
I do not take people too seriously if they lambast the likes of Nick Griffin, whilst allowing the likes of Abu Hamza to freely spew his extremism.
I may have only given a couple of examples, but the failure to treat all hatred with equal contempt is something which regularly disheartens me.
i do agree with most of what you say and you do give plenty of disgusting examples but surely to defend the right of even the most disgusting in society is still the right thing to do, let them hang themselves by allowing them to be heard instead of making heroes out of them.
I was speaking regarding those who wish to take free speech away from the likes of Nick Griffin, but at the same time they do not speak out in the same way when another group try and oppress someone else.
Personally I am not for censorship, people tend to hang themselves pretty well and those who do not realise that free speech comes with a degree of responsibility tend to burn out pretty quick.
I find it a tad inconsistent for those who are condemning Nick Griffin not to also condemn other fanatics, this is my point. Appeasers make me pretty sick.
When one's politics replace ones sense of decency, it ceases to impress me.
Nick Griffin should be allowed to speak, no amount of egg throwing will alter the fact that he is now an elected MEP, and the reasons that was allowed to happen is down to all those who favoured apathy over making a stand. Running up the street with placards and half a dozen sodding free range eggs is pointless.
Show me a fanatic, no matter what side of the coin they're on, and I'll criticise them.
This thread is about one fanatic in particular though...
i though this thread was about a bunch of fanatics denying the right of free speech of an elected mep and turning him into a martyr.
in fact, yes it was, then the supporters of the anti democratic fascists/stalinist thugs started posting in this thread.
We've been over this already, but why is it only Griffin's right to free speech that is mentioned?
Everyone has that right, and thus if I want to stand in front of him booing or whatever I'd be perfectly within MY rights to do so.
It goes both ways.
You CANNOT complain about his right being denied by people who are merely exercising theirs.
It is double standards, plain and simple.
well for free speech he should be allowed to say what he wants (and hang himself maybe) and yes the leftie thugs should have exactly the same right to say what they want to say, but that isnt what they were doing though is it? i'm not aware that airhorns, threats of violence and throwing things constitutes freedom of speech.
I was wondering the the lefties would arise
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
I reckon those protestors, rather than merely exercising their right to freedom of expression, were committing a public order offence. Section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986? In particular for throwing eggs.
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
I reckon those protestors, rather than merely exercising their right to freedom of expression, were committing a public order offence. Section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986? In particular for throwing eggs.
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
I reckon those protestors, rather than merely exercising their right to freedom of expression, were committing a public order offence. Section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986? In particular for throwing eggs.
quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
I reckon those protestors, rather than merely exercising their right to freedom of expression, were committing a public order offence. Section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986? In particular for throwing eggs.
yep you are probably right,
but he is also spouting racist hate filth, that would eventually lead to far worse than a few dead chicken embryos
quote:Originally posted by Mike Strutter:
Will it mean he stays in Brussels now ..??
quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:
well although all the main parties did sign up for unite against facism lets be straight that "group" is mainly made up of the old an(a)l who were very much lefties (they were one of the 2 groups the other being the left wing anti racism league), unite against facism is supported by individual members and certain trade unions (the former t&g, now unite being the main one)
quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddyostrich:quote:Originally posted by Mike Strutter:
Will it mean he stays in Brussels now ..??
He would, except that he hates foreign people
quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
I reckon those protestors, rather than merely exercising their right to freedom of expression, were committing a public order offence. Section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986? In particular for throwing eggs.
yep you are probably right,
but he is also spouting racist hate filth, that would eventually lead to far worse than a few dead chicken embryos
quote:Originally posted by disley21:quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:quote:Originally posted by disley21:
Everyone has that right, and thus if I want to stand in front of him booing or whatever I'd be perfectly within MY rights to do so.
That's not really true, is it? And what about the eggs? Is that a right, too?
I've already covered the egg thing about three pages ago, and I'm not really fond of repeating myself...
Basically what you're saying is, Griffin should be allowed to stand there and say what the hell he wants, but I wouldn't be allowed the right of reply if I was there with him?
That would be denying my free speech...
And seeing as we're all so concerned about Griffin's right being denied, it'd be hypocritical to do so.
There really is no argument against this that doesn't result in somebodies right to free speech being denied, which we cannot allow of course... Simples.
quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:
well although all the main parties did sign up for unite against facism lets be straight that "group" is mainly made up of the old an(a)l who were very much lefties (they were one of the 2 groups the other being the left wing anti racism league), unite against facism is supported by individual members and certain trade unions (the former t&g, now unite being the main one)
well I chose the sign in my sig NOT because I am a memeber of ANY organisation (union backed or otherwise)
I chose it as a symbol of unity of ALL decent thinking people, no matter what their politics, to show their utter contempt of racists everywhere,
quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddyostrich:
The BNP leader Nick Griffin was forced to abandon a press conference outside parliament today after protesters pelted him with eggs.
The demonstrators shouted "off our streets, Nazi scum" and chased him down the street to his car.
Full story
and by doing so they are playing directly into his hands, they realy are stupid thinking that shouting him down is going to do anything but gain him publicity and encourage people to want to hear why a group of imbeciles are trying to block his free speech
just listen to the comments being called into r5live
forgive me BBBS but arent you the stupid one..I mean you voted for him
i did not vote for him, i did vote for his party but not in support of it, other than their anti eu stance i find them vile but i did want to use my vote to make the biggest point i could.
i certainly dont want to listen to what he has to say but all these nutters trying to stop him are as the op points out making him a martyr and thats no good for anyone.
quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
I reckon those protestors, rather than merely exercising their right to freedom of expression, were committing a public order offence. Section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986? In particular for throwing eggs.
yep you are probably right,
but he is also spouting racist hate filth, that would eventually lead to far worse than a few dead chicken embryos
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
The right to free speech isn't the complete freedom to say what you like anywhere you like. It's a qualified right.
quote:Originally posted by squiggle:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddyostrich:
The BNP leader Nick Griffin was forced to abandon a press conference outside parliament today after protesters pelted him with eggs.
The demonstrators shouted "off our streets, Nazi scum" and chased him down the street to his car.
Full story
and by doing so they are playing directly into his hands, they realy are stupid thinking that shouting him down is going to do anything but gain him publicity and encourage people to want to hear why a group of imbeciles are trying to block his free speech
just listen to the comments being called into r5live
forgive me BBBS but arent you the stupid one..I mean you voted for him
i did not vote for him, i did vote for his party but not in support of it, other than their anti eu stance i find them vile but i did want to use my vote to make the biggest point i could.
i certainly dont want to listen to what he has to say but all these nutters trying to stop him are as the op points out making him a martyr and thats no good for anyone.
But BBBS do you think your vote really made any sort of protest?
quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddyostrich:quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
I reckon those protestors, rather than merely exercising their right to freedom of expression, were committing a public order offence. Section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986? In particular for throwing eggs.
Arguably s.4, too. Also a common assault, possibly criminal damage to his braided tunic and a breach of the peace.
But who gives a damn, when he's such a muppet?
quote:Originally posted by squiggle:
But BBBS do you think your vote really made any sort of protest?
quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by squiggle:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddyostrich:
The BNP leader Nick Griffin was forced to abandon a press conference outside parliament today after protesters pelted him with eggs.
The demonstrators shouted "off our streets, Nazi scum" and chased him down the street to his car.
Full story
and by doing so they are playing directly into his hands, they realy are stupid thinking that shouting him down is going to do anything but gain him publicity and encourage people to want to hear why a group of imbeciles are trying to block his free speech
just listen to the comments being called into r5live
forgive me BBBS but arent you the stupid one..I mean you voted for him
i did not vote for him, i did vote for his party but not in support of it, other than their anti eu stance i find them vile but i did want to use my vote to make the biggest point i could.
i certainly dont want to listen to what he has to say but all these nutters trying to stop him are as the op points out making him a martyr and thats no good for anyone.
But BBBS do you think your vote really made any sort of protest?
look at the reaction on here to a single vote and the reaction from politicians on the bnp getting almost 1 million votes and 2 mep's, yes, i think its given them enough of a kick to get them to finally take notice that not everyone is a europhile
quote:Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by squiggle:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddyostrich:
The BNP leader Nick Griffin was forced to abandon a press conference outside parliament today after protesters pelted him with eggs.
The demonstrators shouted "off our streets, Nazi scum" and chased him down the street to his car.
Full story
and by doing so they are playing directly into his hands, they realy are stupid thinking that shouting him down is going to do anything but gain him publicity and encourage people to want to hear why a group of imbeciles are trying to block his free speech
just listen to the comments being called into r5live
forgive me BBBS but arent you the stupid one..I mean you voted for him
i did not vote for him, i did vote for his party but not in support of it, other than their anti eu stance i find them vile but i did want to use my vote to make the biggest point i could.
i certainly dont want to listen to what he has to say but all these nutters trying to stop him are as the op points out making him a martyr and thats no good for anyone.
But BBBS do you think your vote really made any sort of protest?
look at the reaction on here to a single vote and the reaction from politicians on the bnp getting almost 1 million votes and 2 mep's, yes, i think its given them enough of a kick to get them to finally take notice that not everyone is a europhile
STOP trying to justify your actions as a protest vote......TBH I dont think you actually know, or cared to find out just what this party was about.......I mean you thought you could join them FFS
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
We used to think we could just ignore them.
Now we are paying their wages and paying for their campaigning.
quote:Originally posted by disley21:quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
The right to free speech isn't the complete freedom to say what you like anywhere you like. It's a qualified right.
I'm pretty sure some of the things Griffin has said in the past wouldn't be covered by that... but there you go, you can deny my right to tear apart his reasoning with simple logic, but let him spout hatred from every pore of his body...
There's those double standards again.
