It only seems a few days ago that he was the flavour of the month and almost everyone was falling over themselves to laud him and declare that they 'agreed with Nick'.
And now ... oh dear! He's become like the smelly person on the bus that no-one wants to talk to and everyone wants to get as far away from as possible
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When the carrot of power was dangled in front of him he snatched at it. He cosied up to the Tories and is now paying the price.
I think that his fellow liberal democrats (the people who have to sit next to him on the bus), will get him thrown off before it reaches the next stop
I actually feel a bit sorry for the lib dems. he mucked up when he let down the students and disabled, he would have regained all and maybe more voters if he had walked away from the coalition, instead he betrayed the voters who did not want a Tory government IMO. The pact would have never happened under Charles Kennedy, he stated that publicly 
I actually feel a bit sorry for the lib dems. he mucked up when he let down the students and disabled, he would have regained all and maybe more voters if he had walked away from the coalition, instead he betrayed the voters who did not want a Tory government IMO. The pact would have never happened under Charles Kennedy, he stated that publicly
one eye on a career post Westminster in Europe and all the revenue that will bring him - he's nowt but a greedy git who doesn't give a flying fig what happens to the people of the UK and for him I've no sympathy.
He could have at any time crashed this coalition government but he chose his needs over those he is supposed to serve and has condemned [geddit] 
the Libdems to wastelands of politics for years to come 
*exits thread*
I agree with all of what you say Pengy...I mean I feel sorry for the Libdem voters...they were betrayed by Clegg! I don't feel one bit bothered about him and can't wait to see the last of his smug face.
I do wonder if people even look into the parties policies...UKIP 
I heard one guy saying he was a socialist but voted UKIP because Miliband was too far right and he voted Farage 
the mind boggles a tad 
I agree with all of what you say Pengy...I mean I feel sorry for the Libdem voters...they were betrayed by Clegg! I don't feel one bit bothered about him and can't wait to see the last of his smug face.
I do wonder if people even look into the parties policies...UKIP I heard one guy saying he was a socialist but voted UKIP because Miliband was too far right and he voted Farage the mind boggles a tad
It does indeed Dameee 
Lib Dems future was over the minute Clegg jumped into bed with the Tories and renaged on the promise he made to the students.Lib Dems are dead in the water and I doubt they will ever recover.
I am gutted that UKIP have gained a seat in Scotland,the only positive is that Salmond was proclaiming they would get three seats and would send UKIP home to think again.
The people who voted Green 'to keep UKIP' out should have voted SNP, that was the only way to keep UKIP out. Whether it would have given a third seat to the SNP, I don't know. I don't know the figures closely enough.
The people who voted Green 'to keep UKIP' out should have voted SNP, that was the only way to keep UKIP out. Whether it would have given a third seat to the SNP, I don't know. I don't know the figures closely enough.
The Green vote was irrelevant bacause any gain they made was at the Lib Dems expense.I was unaware there was a' vote green to keep UKIP out' campaign.
I am happy that Labour increased their vote by 5% and SNP stayed the same .
He has broken too may pre-election promises......
To be fair ALL politicians do that.
I rather liked the old Liberal Party, before they merged with the SDP
He has broken too may pre-election promises......
To be fair ALL politicians do that.
But Smegg made a huge point about student tuition and then promptly made a HUGE u-turn when in government
When you said 'too many' I was sort of expecting a list of broken promises.
I think you generally find with parties not in government. They are quite quick to criticise the government of the day, their policies and changes, but I have yet to see a change of government followed by a wholesale sweeping away of all of the previous governments changes. Which is why I think they are all peddlers of half truths and broken promises.
I would guess that when the Lib Dems became part of the coalition they had to trade with the Tories and in so doing some things they got and others they had to let go.
He has broken too may pre-election promises......
To be fair ALL politicians do that.
But Smegg made a huge point about student tuition and then promptly made a HUGE u-turn when in government
When you said 'too many' I was sort of expecting a list of broken promises.
I think you generally find with parties not in government. They are quite quick to criticise the government of the day, their policies and changes, but I have yet to see a change of government followed by a wholesale sweeping away of all of the previous governments changes. Which is why I think they are all peddlers of half truths and broken promises.
I would guess that when the Lib Dems became part of the coalition they had to trade with the Tories and in so doing some things they got and others they had to let go.
I agree with all of what you say Pengy...I mean I feel sorry for the Libdem voters...they were betrayed by Clegg! I don't feel one bit bothered about him and can't wait to see the last of his smug face.
I do wonder if people even look into the parties policies...UKIP I heard one guy saying he was a socialist but voted UKIP because Miliband was too far right and he voted Farage the mind boggles a tad
If I've heard that once I've heard it a million times and you have to wonder your Dameship do these people actually think about what they are voting for or are they just listening to the media and sucking up what they hear from them? I despair, I really do
I think that in general people are far to harsh about Clegg, had he managed to construct a coalition with Labour rather than the Tories, I really do doubt that he would be in this position now.
I think he was very naive, not a good thing in a politician, I think he got trussed up like a kipper by the Tories.
He allowed them to take far too much out of the Libdem manifesto without getting very much in return, the Tories are delighted to have a whipping boy to take all the flack for their particularly nasty,pernicious policies.
He has often said that he didn't win the election and that he is the junior partner and as such cannot implement all his policies, he clings to the tax thresholds raise, which he gets no credit for, because people are so pissed off about tuition fees.No one thinks about his pupil premium either.restoring the link between earnings and pensions goes unnoticed.
so from a very naive start where he left himself very little to work with, he has failed to promote what achievements has had.
Doubt he'll go before the election, but he will have to shortly after.
I think that in general people are far to harsh about Clegg, had he managed to construct a coalition with Labour rather than the Tories, I really do doubt that he would be in this position now.
I think he was very naive, not a good thing in a politician, I think he got trussed up like a kipper by the Tories.
He allowed them to take far too much out of the Libdem manifesto without getting very much in return, the Tories are delighted to have a whipping boy to take all the flack for their particularly nasty,pernicious policies.
He has often said that he didn't win the election and that he is the junior partner and as such cannot implement all his policies, he clings to the tax thresholds raise, which he gets no credit for, because people are so pissed off about tuition fees.No one thinks about his pupil premium either.restoring the link between earnings and pensions goes unnoticed.
so from a very naive start where he left himself very little to work with, he has failed to promote what achievements has had.
Doubt he'll go before the election, but he will have to shortly after.
That is the point Jacksonb....
It is.
Spose we should have had a an election re run then?
If I've heard that once I've heard it a million times and you have to wonder your Dameship do these people actually think about what they are voting for or are they just listening to the media and sucking up what they hear from them? I despair, I really do
Totally baffles me Pengy, as far as I remember 40% tax across the board was mentioned last time, privatise the NHS and paint all the trains blue, that was either the UKIP manifesto or a very weird dream and I seem to think it the former..oh and Farage never read it He's so right even the Tories wouldn't want him...a banker and a gentlemen 
I think that in general people are far to harsh about Clegg, had he managed to construct a coalition with Labour rather than the Tories, I really do doubt that he would be in this position now.
I think he was very naive, not a good thing in a politician, I think he got trussed up like a kipper by the Tories.
He allowed them to take far too much out of the Libdem manifesto without getting very much in return, the Tories are delighted to have a whipping boy to take all the flack for their particularly nasty,pernicious policies.
He has often said that he didn't win the election and that he is the junior partner and as such cannot implement all his policies, he clings to the tax thresholds raise, which he gets no credit for, because people are so pissed off about tuition fees.No one thinks about his pupil premium either.restoring the link between earnings and pensions goes unnoticed.
so from a very naive start where he left himself very little to work with, he has failed to promote what achievements has had.
Doubt he'll go before the election, but he will have to shortly after.
Nail and head. 
But I think he will be ousted before the general election so that the party can regroup as an untainted force.
I'm still not feeling sorry for him...I feel sorry for those that died whilst having their money stopped because the Libdems voted with the Tories...that's where my sympathy lies. he'll add to his millions. but some terminally ill people spent their last months with nothing 
*waves to Xochi* 
I think that in general people are far to harsh about Clegg, had he managed to construct a coalition with Labour rather than the Tories, I really do doubt that he would be in this position now.
I think he was very naive, not a good thing in a politician, I think he got trussed up like a kipper by the Tories.
He allowed them to take far too much out of the Libdem manifesto without getting very much in return, the Tories are delighted to have a whipping boy to take all the flack for their particularly nasty,pernicious policies.
He has often said that he didn't win the election and that he is the junior partner and as such cannot implement all his policies, he clings to the tax thresholds raise, which he gets no credit for, because people are so pissed off about tuition fees.No one thinks about his pupil premium either.restoring the link between earnings and pensions goes unnoticed.
so from a very naive start where he left himself very little to work with, he has failed to promote what achievements has had.
Doubt he'll go before the election, but he will have to shortly after.
Nail and head. But I think he will be ousted before the general election so that the party can regroup as an untainted force.
It takes the lib dems months to shuffle anyone anywhere, can't see him going without being pushed.
I don't feel sorry for him either Dame, but I do think he's an easy target with those who can't hit a barn door at 20 paces.
I don't feel sorry for him either Dame, but I do think he's an easy target with those who can't hit a barn door at 20 paces.
oh yes Jackson and I totally agree that's for sure, but you hold the job and make the decisions and when the axe falls its the main neck in the block Just some of the injustices that they went along with, he would have been well on his way if he had just walked away IMO
I think that in general people are far to harsh about Clegg, had he managed to construct a coalition with Labour rather than the Tories, I really do doubt that he would be in this position now.
I think he was very naive, not a good thing in a politician, I think he got trussed up like a kipper by the Tories.
He allowed them to take far too much out of the Libdem manifesto without getting very much in return, the Tories are delighted to have a whipping boy to take all the flack for their particularly nasty,pernicious policies.
He has often said that he didn't win the election and that he is the junior partner and as such cannot implement all his policies, he clings to the tax thresholds raise, which he gets no credit for, because people are so pissed off about tuition fees.No one thinks about his pupil premium either.restoring the link between earnings and pensions goes unnoticed.
so from a very naive start where he left himself very little to work with, he has failed to promote what achievements has had.
Doubt he'll go before the election, but he will have to shortly after.
Nail and head. But I think he will be ousted before the general election so that the party can regroup as an untainted force.
It takes the lib dems months to shuffle anyone anywhere, can't see him going without being pushed.
I don't feel sorry for him either Dame, but I do think he's an easy target with those who can't hit a barn door at 20 paces.
If you fly with the crows you get shot with the crows.
No argument from me.
Erinp and Dame.
*waves to Xochi*
*waves harder* 
*waves so hard I pull a little muscle*
I think that in general people are far to harsh about Clegg, had he managed to construct a coalition with Labour rather than the Tories, I really do doubt that he would be in this position now.
I think he was very naive, not a good thing in a politician, I think he got trussed up like a kipper by the Tories.
He allowed them to take far too much out of the Libdem manifesto without getting very much in return, the Tories are delighted to have a whipping boy to take all the flack for their particularly nasty,pernicious policies.
He has often said that he didn't win the election and that he is the junior partner and as such cannot implement all his policies, he clings to the tax thresholds raise, which he gets no credit for, because people are so pissed off about tuition fees.No one thinks about his pupil premium either.restoring the link between earnings and pensions goes unnoticed.
so from a very naive start where he left himself very little to work with, he has failed to promote what achievements has had.
Doubt he'll go before the election, but he will have to shortly after.
Nail and head. But I think he will be ousted before the general election so that the party can regroup as an untainted force.
It takes the lib dems months to shuffle anyone anywhere, can't see him going without being pushed.
I don't feel sorry for him either Dame, but I do think he's an easy target with those who can't hit a barn door at 20 paces.
If you fly with the crows you get shot with the crows.
What happens if you hang with the lions?
*waves to Xochi*
*waves harder*
*waves so hard I pull a little muscle*
That's enough about your private life thank you.
Still don't really get the contempt for him though.
The Tories given free rein would have shoved through even more draconian policies.
I was grateful for the tempering of those policies.
I was also happy that his changes to the tax threshold took millions out of having to pay taxes, although the Tories have tried to claim that one.
I reserve my contempt for the real culprits, Cameron, Osborne and IDS.
*waves to Xochi*
*waves harder*
*waves so hard I pull a little muscle*
That's enough about your private life thank you.
