Saint posted:Are we all ok for Maggie Smith and not Shirley Bassey
Or is it a draw
The final list must go up tonight (for absolutely no reason)
Saint posted:Are we all ok for Maggie Smith and not Shirley Bassey
Or is it a draw
The final list must go up tonight (for absolutely no reason)
Maggie Smith
1 Vera Lynn
2 Judi Dench
3 Michael Palin
4 Stephen Fry
5 Delia Smith
6 David Jason
7 Billy Connolly
8 Barbara Windsor
9 David Attenborough
10 Pam Ayres
11 Christopher Biggins
12 Paul McCartney
13 Trevor McDonald
14 Joanna Lumley
15 Cliff Richards
16 Virginia Wade
17 Jonny Ball
18 Julie Walters
19 David Suchet
20 Bernard Cribbens
21 Nicolas Parsons
22 Leslie Philips
23 Monty Don/Alan Titchmarsh
24 The Queen
25 Shirley Bassey/Maggie Smith
... unless we make it a list of 30
Barry Cryer
Richard Stilgo
Esther Rantzen
Saint posted:1 Vera Lynn
2 Judi Dench
3 Michael Palin
4 Stephen Fry
5 Delia Smith
6 David Jason
7 Billy Connolly
8 Barbara Windsor
9 David Attenborough
10 Pam Ayres
11 Christopher Biggins
12 Paul McCartney
13 Trevor McDonald
14 Joanna Lumley
15 Cliff Richards
16 Virginia Wade
17 Jonny Ball
18 Julie Walters
19 David Suchet
20 Bernard Cribbens
21 Nicolas Parsons
22 Leslie Philips
23 Monty Don/Alan Titchmarsh
24 The Queen
25 Shirley Bassey/Maggie Smith
... unless we make it a list of 30
Baz posted:Baz posted:Saint posted:Barry Cryer
Richard Stilgo
Esther Rantzen
Richard Stilgo is dead , isn’t he
Oh no, he’s not
Surprised me too 
I wouldn't say Cliff Richard is a national treasure. He's liked by women of beyond a certain age but I don't think there's much love for him in the nation. He's considered an annoyance rather than a treasure. His Xmas records are generally irritating. He annoys many with his piety and bored the nation by playing the martyr over the BBC covering the police raid on his home.
Esther Rantzen maybe?
Any other offers?
Carnelian posted:I wouldn't say Cliff Richard is a national treasure. He's liked by women of beyond a certain age but I don't think there's much love for him in the nation. He's considered an annoyance rather than a treasure. His Xmas records are generally irritating. He annoys many with his piety and bored the nation by playing the martyr over the BBC covering the police raid on his home.
Tis a fair point Carny - he's not without a few skeletons.
People tend to forget the religious rallies he attended where homosexuality was denounced, even though he may be gay himself.
He does, however represent some kind of significant place in British history and came out of the Police investigation untainted.
Saint posted:Carnelian posted:I wouldn't say Cliff Richard is a national treasure. He's liked by women of beyond a certain age but I don't think there's much love for him in the nation. He's considered an annoyance rather than a treasure. His Xmas records are generally irritating. He annoys many with his piety and bored the nation by playing the martyr over the BBC covering the police raid on his home.
Tis a fair point Carny - he's not without a few skeletons.
People tend to forget the religious rallies he attended where homosexuality was denounced, even though he may be gay himself.
He does, however represent some kind of significant place in British history and came out of the Police investigation untainted.
I tend to think he is gay. Anyone with his good looks back in the day and celebrity would have been a man who would have had conquests in their hundreds or even thousands. Having a queue of very attractive women with all kind of attractive personalities wanting to be Mrs Cliff Richard and not choosing one, suggests homosexuality to me. I'm no homophobe, it's not for me to tell anyone how to live their lives. He's probably conflicted by his religion.
Carnelian posted:Saint posted:Carnelian posted:I wouldn't say Cliff Richard is a national treasure. He's liked by women of beyond a certain age but I don't think there's much love for him in the nation. He's considered an annoyance rather than a treasure. His Xmas records are generally irritating. He annoys many with his piety and bored the nation by playing the martyr over the BBC covering the police raid on his home.
Tis a fair point Carny - he's not without a few skeletons.
People tend to forget the religious rallies he attended where homosexuality was denounced, even though he may be gay himself.
He does, however represent some kind of significant place in British history and came out of the Police investigation untainted.
I tend to think he is gay. Anyone with his good looks back in the day and celebrity would have been a man who would have had conquests in their hundreds or even thousands. Having a queue of very attractive women with all kind of attractive personalities wanting to be Mrs Cliff Richard and not choosing one, suggests homosexuality to me. I'm no homophobe, it's not a bad thing, but he should have done the decent thing and came out.
He is gay. He lives with a priest. Catholic church eh?
velvet donkey posted:Carnelian posted:Saint posted:Carnelian posted:I wouldn't say Cliff Richard is a national treasure. He's liked by women of beyond a certain age but I don't think there's much love for him in the nation. He's considered an annoyance rather than a treasure. His Xmas records are generally irritating. He annoys many with his piety and bored the nation by playing the martyr over the BBC covering the police raid on his home.
Tis a fair point Carny - he's not without a few skeletons.
People tend to forget the religious rallies he attended where homosexuality was denounced, even though he may be gay himself.
He does, however represent some kind of significant place in British history and came out of the Police investigation untainted.
I tend to think he is gay. Anyone with his good looks back in the day and celebrity would have been a man who would have had conquests in their hundreds or even thousands. Having a queue of very attractive women with all kind of attractive personalities wanting to be Mrs Cliff Richard and not choosing one, suggests homosexuality to me. I'm no homophobe, it's not a bad thing, but he should have done the decent thing and came out.
He is gay. He lives with a priest. Catholic church eh?
I always thought he was C of E
Saint posted:Laurence Fox perhaps?
that's a no from me!
Made me laugh when Bruce said, "Pritti Patel says the UK press isn't racist". No, it isn't to a rich ladder pulling right-wing lunatic like Pritti Patel, because as a low tax for the elite, right-wing lunatic, she's on exactly the same page as most of the Tory press.
Patel isn't going to bite the hand that feeds her. Fiona Bruce is so bloody clueless! I've seen that clip but that's all. I don't watch BBC news and current affairs anymore after their blatant bias to the Tories in the last few years. We should abolish the licence fee.
1 Vera Lynn
2 Judi Dench
3 Michael Palin
4 Stephen Fry
5 Delia Smith
6 David Jason
7 Billy Connolly
8 Barbara Windsor
9 David Attenborough
10 Pam Ayres
11 Christopher Biggins
12 Paul McCartney
13 Trevor McDonald
14 Joanna Lumley
15 Cliff Richards
16 Virginia Wade
17 Jonny Ball
18 Julie Walters
19 David Suchet
20 Bernard Cribbens
21 Nicholas Parsons
22 Leslie Phillips
23 Monty Don
24 The Queen
25 Shirley Bassey
26 Maggie Smith
27 Alan Titchmarsh
28 Sir Ian McKellen
29 Ester Rantzen
30 Barry Cryer
And unless something else comes to mind (although you lot have had long enough) THIS is the definitive list ... probably
Saint posted:1 Vera Lynn
2 Judi Dench
3 Michael Palin
4 Stephen Fry
5 Delia Smith
6 David Jason
7 Billy Connolly
8 Barbara Windsor
9 David Attenborough
10 Pam Ayres
11 Christopher Biggins
12 Paul McCartney
13 Trevor McDonald
14 Joanna Lumley
15 Cliff Richards
16 Virginia Wade
17 Jonny Ball
18 Julie Walters
19 David Suchet
20 Bernard Cribbens
21 Nicholas Parsons
22 Leslie Phillips
23 Monty Don
24 The Queen
25 Shirley Bassey
26 Maggie Smith
27 Alan Titchmarsh
28 Sir Ian McKellen
29 Ester Rantzen
30 Barry Cryer
And unless something else comes to mind (although you lot have had long enough) THIS is the definitive list ... probably
I approve 
Carnelian posted:velvet donkey posted:Carnelian posted:Saint posted:Carnelian posted:I wouldn't say Cliff Richard is a national treasure. He's liked by women of beyond a certain age but I don't think there's much love for him in the nation. He's considered an annoyance rather than a treasure. His Xmas records are generally irritating. He annoys many with his piety and bored the nation by playing the martyr over the BBC covering the police raid on his home.
Tis a fair point Carny - he's not without a few skeletons.
People tend to forget the religious rallies he attended where homosexuality was denounced, even though he may be gay himself.
He does, however represent some kind of significant place in British history and came out of the Police investigation untainted.
I tend to think he is gay. Anyone with his good looks back in the day and celebrity would have been a man who would have had conquests in their hundreds or even thousands. Having a queue of very attractive women with all kind of attractive personalities wanting to be Mrs Cliff Richard and not choosing one, suggests homosexuality to me. I'm no homophobe, it's not a bad thing, but he should have done the decent thing and came out.
He is gay. He lives with a priest. Catholic church eh?
I always thought he was C of E
I think Cliff is C of E and he lives with an ex RC priest but I could be wrong.
Saint posted:Laurence Fox perhaps?
Loved him as Hathaway in Lewis
Carnelian posted:Robbie Coltrane?
Michael Gambon
Saint posted:Can we omit Miriam Margolyes?
Yes
RIGHT !! We'll go to 35 and that's it !!
Yogi19 posted:Saint posted:Can we omit Miriam Margolyes?
Yes
Awww why? Is she not an idiosyncratic old bat (meant in the kindest way) and so typifying eccentric Britishness?
Saint posted:Yogi19 posted:Saint posted:Can we omit Miriam Margolyes?
Yes
Awww why? Is she not an idiosyncratic old bat (meant in the kindest way) and so typifying eccentric Britishness?
I thought you wanted to omit her so I was trying to be helpful
Yogi19 posted:Saint posted:Yogi19 posted:Saint posted:Can we omit Miriam Margolyes?
Yes
Awww why? Is she not an idiosyncratic old bat (meant in the kindest way) and so typifying eccentric Britishness?
LOL - you're right - sorry
We were running high numbers but ... as we're going up to 35 - should she go in - does she deserve it?
Saint posted:Yogi19 posted:Saint posted:Yogi19 posted:Saint posted:Can we omit Miriam Margolyes?
Yes
Awww why? Is she not an idiosyncratic old bat (meant in the kindest way) and so typifying eccentric Britishness?
LOL - you're right - sorry
We were running high numbers but ... as we're going up to 35 - should she go in - does she deserve it?
Hmm, I’m not sure.....she’s a bit marmite.
I prefer Brenda Blethyn
Hmmm Brenda Blethyn - nice.
What do others think?
Saint posted:
29 Ester Rantzen
And unless something else comes to mind (although you lot have had long enough) THIS is the definitive list ... probably
You can drop that name off the list. She could have done more in the early days of the Savile scandal and instead "chose career". Any work she has done after just goes to negate her earlier misjudgement.
Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:Saint posted:
29 Ester Rantzen
And unless something else comes to mind (although you lot have had long enough) THIS is the definitive list ... probably
You can drop that name off the list. She could have done more in the early days of the Savile scandal and instead "chose career". Any work she has done after just goes to negate her earlier misjudgement.
Agreed.