How could I have forgotten St Delia of the table-propping-up Canaries!
National Treasure - Letsh be 'avin yous!
Saint posted:Yogi19 posted:I agree with Gordon Buchanan and David Jason.
Can we do posthumous ones - then I could nominate the wonderful and much missed Victoria Wood.
I was pondering that but it's very easy to give posthumous awards - we could go back a long way
So hope everyone is ok with the living?
Is Gordon Buchanan well known enough, do you think?
I’m okay with the living.
Gordon is well known with those of us who watch wildlife programmes but perhaps not with others.
Carnelian posted:How could I have forgotten St Delia of the table-propping-up Canaries!
National Treasure - Letsh be 'avin yous!
I like Delia
Why has no one proffered the name of David Bowie yet. His contribution to music and film along with other branches of the arts. Leaving a legacy which will endure for many centuries, well, not too many if the climate crises proves too much for the human race to endure.!
Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
Why has no one proffered the name of David Bowie yet. His contribution to music and film along with other branches of the arts. Leaving a legacy which will endure for many centuries, well, not too many if the climate crises proves too much for the human race to endure.!
Has he been taken to the public's hearts and held in affection?
Respected - yes. Held in affection - hmmm?
Moonie posted:John Noakes?
Excellent !!! 
More suggestions:
Gloria Hunniford, Floella Benjamin, Virginia Wade, Trevor McDonald?
Saint posted:Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
Why has no one proffered the name of David Bowie yet. His contribution to music and film along with other branches of the arts. Leaving a legacy which will endure for many centuries, well, not too many if the climate crises proves too much for the human race to endure.!
Has he been taken to the public's hearts and held in affection?
Respected - yes. Held in affection - hmmm?
140 Million record sales would suggest he is held in affection by a considerable number of people. 
It's quite hard to really define who and who is not held in the public's affection. A lot of the people who get held up as n.t's are being done so by the press and media, whether people genuinely like them is up for debate, we would need a referendum.
Baz posted:Saint posted:Judi Dench
She is a Yorkshire Woman
Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:Baz posted:Saint posted:Judi Dench
She is a Yorkshire Woman
. . . and what criteria is EC using there - hmmm
Saint posted:Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
Why has no one proffered the name of David Bowie yet. His contribution to music and film along with other branches of the arts. Leaving a legacy which will endure for many centuries, well, not too many if the climate crises proves too much for the human race to endure.!
Has he been taken to the public's hearts and held in affection?
Respected - yes. Held in affection - hmmm?
Ermmmmm, yes, much affection. Bowie gets in.
as does Carnelian’s suggestion of Jack Munroe ... fabulous lady who has overcome many demons
Baz posted:How about Freddy Mercury ?
Yup ... gets my vote
Rexi posted:Baz posted:How about Freddy Mercury ?
Yup ... gets my vote
Yep 
I think to clarify the criteria (I know we have to ruthless)
David Bowie OR Paul McCartney
No question - McCartney cos he's more 'liked' and seen as an institution where as Bowie is too 'alternative'. Is he 'loved' by the Nation or respected?
See my point?
Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:Baz posted:Saint posted:Judi Dench
She is a Yorkshire Woman
Judi gets my vote
Saint posted:Rexi posted:Baz posted:How about Freddy Mercury ?
Yup ... gets my vote
Yep
You said they had to be alive
Saint posted:I think to clarify the criteria (I know we have to ruthless)
David Bowie OR Paul McCartney
No question - McCartney cos he's more 'liked' and seen as an institution where as Bowie is too 'alternative'. Is he 'loved' by the Nation or respected?
See my point?
Neither
Vera Lynn <<< this is what i mean
She defines a generation, known by almost everyone, adored by the nation.
Generally seen as an institution in her own right
Oh yeah - no Freddie Mercury - he's ded
Saint, can you confirm whether they need to be alive, because John Noakes and Freddie Mercury are dead. If you are allowing dead people, please can Victoria Wood be included?
Yogi19 posted:Saint, can you confirm whether they need to be alive, because John Noakes and Freddie Mercury are dead. If you are allowing dead people, please can Victoria Wood be included?
Sorry my mistake
Living ... or we could get very historical
Listy time - flexi
1 Vera Lynn
2 Judi Dench
3 Michael Palin
4 Stephen Fry
5 Delia Smith
6 David Jason
We'll have to forgo Bowie if we can't allow McCartney
AND - they have to be instantly recognisable and loved (not successful and admired)
1 Vera Lynn
2 Judi Dench
3 Michael Palin
4 Stephen Fry
5 Delia Smith
6 David Jason
7 Billy Connolly
DAVINA ?
Trevor McDonald must have a look in. Yes? No?