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Originally Posted by velvet donkey:

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I think it's now comming to a fight between DECENCY and SLEEZE AND LOOSE MORALS.

 

Hope DECENCY wins = so that's Michael, The Twins, Romeo and Gareth.

 

That's not to say that they haven't all had the odd 'questionable' moment, but some have definitely been a bit more questionable than others.

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing

I agree Baz.

 

I was bliddy shocked that Natalie went out last night, I really thought she would have had a larger fanbase than the twins or maybe even Romeo.  I'm glad she's gone though, she was a right shit stirrer.

 

I'm hoping for a Romeo or Gareth win now.....they might be a bit boring but they aren't rude, obnoxious, big headed, spiteful or selfish like the rest of the others.

Ells
Originally Posted by Baz:
Seriously, I really don't get all the hero worship. I find him increasingly obnoxious ... Sorry .. But that's how I feel

But Baz, why does liking/supporting Michael have to be about 'Here Worship'? Maybe it's just a case of NOT DISLIKING his overall conduct (warts and all) as much as the conduct of the others - without referral to him being American and a 'Hollywood movie personality'

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing
Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:
Originally Posted by Baz:
Seriously, I really don't get all the hero worship. I find him increasingly obnoxious ... Sorry .. But that's how I feel

But Baz, why does liking/supporting Michael have to be about 'Here Worship'? Maybe it's just a case of NOT DISLIKING his overall conduct (warts and all) as much as the conduct of the others - without referral to him being American and a 'Hollywood movie personality'

I wasn't  really using the the word hero worship in that way  EFFT (probably my poor choice of phrase)..... I meant that the nearly  whole forum seems to be backing him.... no matter what he does or says...... and  for once I just don't get it

Baz
Originally Posted by Baz:
Seriously, I really don't get all the hero worship. I find him increasingly obnoxious ... Sorry .. But that's how I feel

I don't hero worship him Baz,in fact I hero worship no-one.Yes he can be perceived as obnoxious but truth be told if I were in there dealing with most of that shower I'd be stir crazy by now.He asks Stalker  Denise to stop,why not do the right thing and leave him alone instead of the incessant twittering and droning on and on and on....They're both in the same age bracket,he may have felt he'd found a kindred spirit off sorts in there,instead she behaves like she's 2 sheets to the wind.

~Lee~
Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:
Originally Posted by Baz:
Seriously, I really don't get all the hero worship. I find him increasingly obnoxious ... Sorry .. But that's how I feel

But Baz, why does liking/supporting Michael have to be about 'Here Worship'? Maybe it's just a case of NOT DISLIKING his overall conduct (warts and all) as much as the conduct of the others - without referral to him being American and a 'Hollywood movie personality'

And as far as I can recall I have NEVER  mentioned his (or anyone else's) nationality ..... I have always grrrrrrr'd  who I've grrrrr'd .... no matter what country they are from

Baz
Originally Posted by ~Lee~:
Originally Posted by Baz:
Seriously, I really don't get all the hero worship. I find him increasingly obnoxious ... Sorry .. But that's how I feel

I don't hero worship him Baz,in fact I hero worship no-one.Yes he can be perceived as obnoxious but truth be told if I were in there dealing with most of that shower I'd be stir crazy by now.He asks Stalker  Denise to stop,why not do the right thing and leave him alone instead of the incessant twittering and droning on and on and on....They're both in the same age bracket,he may have felt he'd found a kindred spirit off sorts in there,instead she behaves like she's 2 sheets to the wind.

But that exact argument can  be used the other way round Lee..... Denise may have thought that because of the similarity in age she would also find a kindred spirit in Michael.... and therefore did not understand his attitude.  I am not saying that she  did (and I am certainly not a Denise fan), but it cuts both ways.....

Baz
Originally Posted by Baz:
Originally Posted by ~Lee~:
Originally Posted by Baz:
Seriously, I really don't get all the hero worship. I find him increasingly obnoxious ... Sorry .. But that's how I feel

I don't hero worship him Baz,in fact I hero worship no-one.Yes he can be perceived as obnoxious but truth be told if I were in there dealing with most of that shower I'd be stir crazy by now.He asks Stalker  Denise to stop,why not do the right thing and leave him alone instead of the incessant twittering and droning on and on and on....They're both in the same age bracket,he may have felt he'd found a kindred spirit off sorts in there,instead she behaves like she's 2 sheets to the wind.

But that exact argument can  be used the other way round Lee..... Denise may have thought that because of the similarity in age she would also find a kindred spirit in Michael.... and therefore did not understand his attitude.  I am not saying that she  did (and I am certainly not a Denise fan), but it cuts both ways.....

She is on home turf Baz,she probably already knew quite a few of the others,he's on the other side of the Atlantic from home,he wasn't acquainted with  any of them,a fish out of water in many ways and there is 1 person he does have something in common with ,age wise at least,her.

~Lee~
Originally Posted by ~Lee~:
Originally Posted by Baz:
Originally Posted by ~Lee~:
Originally Posted by Baz:
Seriously, I really don't get all the hero worship. I find him increasingly obnoxious ... Sorry .. But that's how I feel

I don't hero worship him Baz,in fact I hero worship no-one.Yes he can be perceived as obnoxious but truth be told if I were in there dealing with most of that shower I'd be stir crazy by now.He asks Stalker  Denise to stop,why not do the right thing and leave him alone instead of the incessant twittering and droning on and on and on....They're both in the same age bracket,he may have felt he'd found a kindred spirit off sorts in there,instead she behaves like she's 2 sheets to the wind.

But that exact argument can  be used the other way round Lee..... Denise may have thought that because of the similarity in age she would also find a kindred spirit in Michael.... and therefore did not understand his attitude.  I am not saying that she  did (and I am certainly not a Denise fan), but it cuts both ways.....

She is on home turf Baz,she probably already knew quite a few of the others,he's on the other side of the Atlantic from home,he wasn't acquainted with  any of them,a fish out of water in many ways and there is 1 person he does have something in common with ,age wise at least,her.

I understand what you are saying Lee, but I don't think that excuses his behaviour towards her..... two wrongs never make a right in my book..... I know I am way out of kilter with everyone this time, but from my standpoint (and from the edited highlights) he made up his mind he didn't like her almost from day one and then went out of his way to awkward at best, and at times downright nasty. Sorry, but that is how I see it.....

Baz

It should not matter were you come from but why do the celebs  in the house keep referring to them as Americans,last night on BOTS Venessa was going on about the Americans being on UK BB something or other insinuating  we have our own.. or words to that affect,not all of us vote on that basis thank goodness, but there does seem to be a bit of wave flagging from celebs/ media/and the public to vote for our own to win these shows, that is my opinion for what I have seen over the years..hope this year I am wrong.. Michael or the twins to win

 

Marguerita
Originally Posted by Marguerita:

It should not matter were you come from but why do the celebs  in the house keep referring to them as Americans,last night on BOTS Venessa was going on about the Americans being on UK BB something or other insinuating  we have our own.. or words to that affect,not all of us vote on that basis thank goodness, but there does seem to be a bit of wave flagging from celebs/ media/and the public to vote for our own to win these shows, that is my opinion for what I have seen over the years..hope this year I am wrong.. Michael or the twins to win

 

Marg tbh at times it seemed that Michael Georgia and the Twins were *Outsiders*,I wanted to believe it wasn't for the reasons that it now appears it really was.,a *Them and Us* scenario.

~Lee~
Originally Posted by ~Lee~:
Originally Posted by Marguerita:

It should not matter were you come from but why do the celebs  in the house keep referring to them as Americans,last night on BOTS Venessa was going on about the Americans being on UK BB something or other insinuating  we have our own.. or words to that affect,not all of us vote on that basis thank goodness, but there does seem to be a bit of wave flagging from celebs/ media/and the public to vote for our own to win these shows, that is my opinion for what I have seen over the years..hope this year I am wrong.. Michael or the twins to win

 

Marg tbh at times it seemed that Michael Georgia and the Twins were *Outsiders*,I wanted to believe it wasn't for the reasons that it now appears it really was.,a *Them and Us* scenario.

Thats exactly how I feel Lee....

stonks
Originally Posted by stonks:
Originally Posted by ~Lee~:
Originally Posted by Marguerita:

It should not matter were you come from but why do the celebs  in the house keep referring to them as Americans,last night on BOTS Venessa was going on about the Americans being on UK BB something or other insinuating  we have our own.. or words to that affect,not all of us vote on that basis thank goodness, but there does seem to be a bit of wave flagging from celebs/ media/and the public to vote for our own to win these shows, that is my opinion for what I have seen over the years..hope this year I am wrong.. Michael or the twins to win

 

Marg tbh at times it seemed that Michael Georgia and the Twins were *Outsiders*,I wanted to believe it wasn't for the reasons that it now appears it really was.,a *Them and Us* scenario.

Thats exactly how I feel Lee....

The same ^^^

Marguerita
Originally Posted by stonks:
Originally Posted by Blizz'ard:

Any arrogant, misogynistic curmudgeon, from any country, makes my blood boil.

To dislike one woman does'nt make him a  misogynist, otherwise I'm one in the female sense of the word....

I think the way he snapped at Georgia and Natalie and his comments about women, in the diary room, showed him to be a misogynist. He hasn't had a problem with any of the blokes in there, has he?

Blizz'ard
Originally Posted by Blizz'ard:
Originally Posted by stonks:
Originally Posted by Blizz'ard:

Any arrogant, misogynistic curmudgeon, from any country, makes my blood boil.

To dislike one woman does'nt make him a  misogynist, otherwise I'm one in the female sense of the word....

I think the way he snapped at Georgia and Natalie and his comments about women, in the diary room, showed him to be a misogynist. He hasn't had a problem with any of the blokes in there, has he?

I agree Blizzie..... When he snapped at Georgia  (who from what I saw never did anyone any harm while she was in the house.... with the exception of Kirk's ego) it was the last straw for me....

Baz

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