And Video jumps in with both feet..

Not the accent, but the tone of voice and their manner of expressing sentences. Have a good listen next time she is on live feed.

I'd better jump right back out before the abuse comes, this issue always causes the nasty PC brigade to attack any other opinions someone might have.

At least Vids is honest in his ignorance

Everybody has valid points.

 
It's not an argument that anyone can win.




So, about that Nadia Pepper... 

*puts away troll-poking stick for the night*

QUOTE: Videostar;"You want non PC and plain speaking, ok then....Nadia and any transexual who was born male will always be male, no matter how many op's they have, it's nature which shouldn't be tampered with.

BTW I dont dislike Nadia  because of the transexual thing, I just dislike Nadia's personality and he didn't deserve to win BB5.

I know my view isn't popular but im just being honest."

Well done to Videostar for voicing your opinions.  I can imagine the reaction if *I* had said that though: I would have been hanged for it.  Yet not many people are going crazy about your post.  Guess it depends who you are on here eh?

Anyhoo, that aside, Videostar does have a right to their opinion, and is only saying what some people think.

Re; Nadia, I was never actually a massive fan of Nadia's.  Although I thought she was 'ok,' she got on my nerves sometimes.  And I have to say if I had to rate her looks out of 10; I would give her a 4.  She looks awful, the outfit is dreadful, and her 'figure' is just weird.  There are *some* transexuals that look fine as women, and usually non-caucasians.  Brazilians and asians (oriental,) who have them, particularly if they have it done at a young age, look very feminine.  But some transexuals, look like a man in a wig.  Not PC of course, but accurate. 

It doesn't make you a bigot because you say that you think some transexuals look butch, or will always will be the gender they were born as.  (as vid says.)  I get so pissed off with the PC brigade demonising everyone who doesn't agree with their point of view, and berating anyone who 'dares' to make a joke about something; calling them bigots, nazis, and hate-filled dailymail readers.  Some people need to accept that not EVERYone is going to agree with the extreme left, and not EVERYone who makes non-PC 'jokes' is full of hate and vitriol.

And I think that's a judgmental, bigoted viewpoint. What business is it of yours, and what harm does it cause you personally, what gender Nadia or any other transsexual chooses to live as?
I think it's their right to live as happy human beings that 'shouldn't be tampered with' by people who think everyone else 'should' conform to their own narrow agenda.
My view might not be popular either, but I'm just being honest.

I loathe her and Makosi with a passion.

This is my worst BB nightmare

Nadia looks like Divine, an actor/singer from the 80`s

Have to agree with the majority here, she sounds nothing like Sam Pepper.  She sounds like a drag queen.

how ignorant are you??

no,just thick

a wee bloke with tits
 and videostar...


loving the ignorance in this thread.

even if they're desperately unhappy in the body they're born in to?..............nature has a cruel way of mixing things up too........she may have been born male......but everything inside of her was telling her she wasn't.........she has a right to live her life happily and in the manner she wants as who she wants to be..........

Everyone has a right to voice their opinions.  Always makes me laugh when your opinion is ridiculed and dismissed because it doesn't match the opinion of the majority or perhaps it is the minority

Oh and I happen to think she does sound like a man.

Sighs. I wonder what a 12 year old would think but they again I suppose it would depend on the kinda parents they had'

 So if you say something, it's because you're 'being honest', but if anyone else does (and they don't agree with you) they're the nasty PC brigade?
Shouldn't really be surprised, I suppose.

so do some women who are born female

Yes, but we're talking about Nadia's voice and I think Nadia's voice sounds like a man.

yer im aware, just stating her being trans is irrelevant

I didn't say anything about her being a trans. Am talking about the voice.

im aware of that LL, it wasnt a pop @ you

just an observation fitting to the way the threads gone

great too see vids has done his research...

There are more things in heaven and earth, Videostar,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

Funny how no one disputes that nature can mess up re. genetic disorders yet nature fluffing up gender is disputed.

Makes no sense to me.

*Polishes PC brigade badge*

pick meeeeeeeeee pick meeeeeeeeee leccy!!.......i said it!!.....just not as good as you!...xx

ooooh, will this thread become the new 'how to wash a chicken' thread? 

xx  *Pins badge on Spongey*  Sign your membership card soon as you can, you can use it for a discount at the cinema*

*May not be true.

ooooooooo i like a good discount me.............

I don't care what a person looks like or whether they sound like a male, female or washed chicken. I don't care if they used to be male,females or said washed chicken.
What I do care about is how they are and how they treat others.
I like Nadia - SHE  is fun and SHE has been through a lot in her life and still manages to laugh at herself.
I also think she looks and acts like a woman and I am loving her pot belly.

*throws spectacles away, squints at the screen*

Crikey you're right!

(or not)

If we are going to go on that argument, we may as well go back to the dark ages and close all hospitals and have no medical intervention for anything.. just let nature take its course.

Yep, and I'd have to have grey hair in my fringe

I agree, ( not so much about the belly though, or perhaps the dress was a bit too short and tight) but I love her anyway.

And toothache cos no fillings.

I was wondering who this 'nature' is and  why s/he must not be tampered with?

 Thats the best part about her - she just doesn't care !