Does seem pretty low. Not sure about advice.

aww I bet he's dead chuffed

That's only £2.89 and hour. I'm sure that's not legal.

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Originally posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
aww I bet he's dead chuffed

sorry I didn't see what they paid him, good lord !

Hi Moomin, firstly congrats to your son for getting a job not too sure about minimum wage though, although I would have thought at that age he would be. Hope he gets some good tips.

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Originally posted by Lady-Jester:
That's only £2.89 and hour. I'm sure that's not legal.

I think right now the minimum wage for under 18s is meant to be about £3.60, which is what I'm on.

£2.89...blimey Perhaps speak to his boss about it?

not sure min wage for 16 year old

but he will be thrilled with his own money

as long as it wont be hours and hours a day for pitance

he will enjoy it and the money

good luck to him

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Originally posted by Lady-Jester:
That's only £2.89 and hour. I'm sure that's not legal.

Well done Lady J, i'm crap at maths! that cannot be right surely

£3.53 per hour for all workers under the age of 18, who are no longer of compulsory school age

Just copied and pasted this from HM Revenue and Customs site. Still a paltry amount though.

Minimum wage for ppl under 18 is £3.53. Seems about right if they took of NI.

Just googled this, don;t know how old the link is

Main rate for adults aged 22 and over - £5.52
Development rate for 18 – 21 year olds - £4.60
Development rate for 16 -17 year olds - £3.40

He is pleased with his money, but it is hard work in there for very little.

I think I will phone up tomorrow to ask about it - don't want to get him the sack tho!!

youth rate...£3.53

Did he get a proper pay slip?

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Originally posted by cologne1:
Minimum wage for ppl under 18 is £3.53. Seems about right if they took of NI.

NI contributions and Tax are not deducted for earnings of such a small amount, as far as I am aware cologne

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Originally posted by Sunnie:
Did he get a proper pay slip?

Not this week, no, as it is in the middle of a month (they get paid monthly from 20th of each month)

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:

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Originally posted by cologne1:
Minimum wage for ppl under 18 is £3.53. Seems about right if they took of NI.

NI contributions and Tax are not deducted for earnings of such a small amount, as far as I am aware cologne

He certainly won't pay tax as he won't be earning enough.

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Originally posted by Moomin:

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:

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Originally posted by cologne1:
Minimum wage for ppl under 18 is £3.53. Seems about right if they took of NI.

NI contributions and Tax are not deducted for earnings of such a small amount, as far as I am aware cologne

He certainly won't pay tax as he won't be earning enough.

There is a threshold for NI as well as tax moomin. It's quite difficult for you because you are so proud of him taking on a job and I suppose you don't want to dampen his enthusiasm, but he should be getting the minimum wage for his age. Contacting the restaurant to enquire about it could put his, and his brother's, job at risk. It's a difficult one but you also don't want him working for less than he is entitled to.

moomin would it be a trial wage

then if he is kept on permanent after a certain period

he will get the min wage

he will not pay ni or tax

my daughter did not at that age

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:

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Originally posted by cologne1:
Minimum wage for ppl under 18 is £3.53. Seems about right if they took of NI.

NI contributions and Tax are not deducted for earnings of such a small amount, as far as I am aware cologne

Thanks twee, I just wondered about NI. He should have had £31.77 then.

Moomin, if he is or can pay NI that seems okay if a little low however when I was younger I got mine in an envelope with calculations on the front and found out years later they had not actually paid my NI contributions they said, just be careful.

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Originally posted by cup:
moomin would it be a trial wage

then if he is kept on permanent after a certain period

he will get the min wage

he will not pay ni or tax

my daughter did not at that age

Hadn't thought about that cup - it could be I suppose.

I will wait until he gets his first proper payslip before asking his employers.
Then everything will be in black and white, so I can see what's what.

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Originally posted by Moomin:

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Originally posted by cup:
moomin would it be a trial wage

then if he is kept on permanent after a certain period

he will get the min wage

he will not pay ni or tax

my daughter did not at that age

Hadn't thought about that cup - it could be I suppose.

I will wait until he gets his first proper payslip before asking his employers.
Then everything will be in black and white, so I can see what's what.

yeah that is the best thing

good luck to him he will be delighted with the money all grown up i think a job is great for them

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Originally posted by cologne1:

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:

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Originally posted by cologne1:
Minimum wage for ppl under 18 is £3.53. Seems about right if they took of NI.

NI contributions and Tax are not deducted for earnings of such a small amount, as far as I am aware cologne

Thanks twee, I just wondered about NI. He should have had £31.77 then.

When I worked part time for a while I kept my wages below a certain level so that I avoided paying tax and NI. It was all perfectly legal but I always got the full amount of the hourly rate I had earned, albeit that it was quite low.

I think he needs to check if there were any unpaid breaks during his working hours and also ensure he has been paid for the correct number of hours

I use a salary calculator when I'm wondering about NI and tax stuff. No use in this case, except to show that there's a minimum threshold for NI, but it might be useful for someone else:

Salary checker

Some restaurants and other hospitality trades make up salary to minimum wage using tips. Perhaps the tips are collected weekly and he hasn't had his share? Just a thought.

I don't advice you to contact his employer, it would be far better if he asked the questions himself as it would show that he is a confident individual and it would make them think twice about putting on him in the future.


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Originally posted by mary_bee:

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Originally posted by Lady-Jester:
That's only £2.89 and hour. I'm sure that's not legal.

I think right now the minimum wage for under 18s is meant to be about £3.60, which is what I'm on.

£2.89...blimey Perhaps speak to his boss about it?

is that after taxes/NI though?.....don't know much about this, but it does sound low

I think (don't know for sure), If you are employed as a trainee or an apprentice the minimum wage does'nt come into it and they can pay what they want (within reason).

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Originally posted by Scooby doo:
I think (don't know for sure), If you are employed as a trainee or an apprentice the minimum wage does'nt come into it and they can pay what they want (within reason).

also it is possible he's paying an emergency tax until his tax code etc are sorted out.... in which case he should get a rebate in time. my daughter worked in a hairdressers for a few years up to she was 18 and faced a similar situation

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Originally posted by ali:

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Originally posted by Scooby doo:
I think (don't know for sure), If you are employed as a trainee or an apprentice the minimum wage does'nt come into it and they can pay what they want (within reason).

also it is possible he's paying an emergency tax until his tax code etc are sorted out.... in which case he should get a rebate in time. my daughter worked in a hairdressers for a few years up to she was 18 and faced a similar situation

Not sure this is the case as he won't be paying any tax - it's only a part-time weekend job while he is still at school.

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Originally posted by Lady-Jester:
That's only £2.89 and hour. I'm sure that's not legal.

it's not