Ditty Your mum looks beautiful in those pics
On the William Hague thing........ how can you have a bald head at the front and long'ish hair at the back?
Yes, very much so.
Ditty Your mum looks beautiful in those pics
On the William Hague thing........ how can you have a bald head at the front and long'ish hair at the back?
Yes, very much so.
Beautiful photos of your Mum, and of you as a bonnie child There came a time for me when photos I'd not looked at for a long time were so precious to have. It was a bittersweet experience but they made me smile at the memories, I still look at them from time to time and feel grateful to the person who invented the camera. I wonder if the younger generation will have photos they can hold to look at in the future or are their memories being stored on phones and pc's which could disappear over time.
well these photo's were all on slides.. for as long as we could remember there were boxes & boxes of 35mm slides & negatives stored in boxes under beds and at the bottom of wardrobes.
I bought dad a gadget that scans them onto the computer for his birthday a few months ago. I wasn't sure if he'd like it/attempt to use it.. it was a good move.. he loves it.
all these photos have been lost to him for decades (we've never seen them before).
Brother & I are doing the odd few hour shifts getting through a few hundred or so at a time.
Dad has already selected about 20 photos that we are going to get professionally restored & printed out for him
Ditty Your mum looks beautiful in those pics
On the William Hague thing........ how can you have a bald head at the front and long'ish hair at the back?
I DON'T KNOW!!
It must have been a very brief period of time.. cos I have seen other pics of me younger than this, and a bit older than this.. and I swear I have even coverage all over my head, whether it be short, all bald, or long baby locks
Ditty Your mum looks beautiful in those pics
On the William Hague thing........ how can you have a bald head at the front and long'ish hair at the back?
Yes, very much so.
thank you xx
sorry to hear news
you lot really helped when i lost my Mom
and i hope we can all help you aswell
and i laughed at william hague...sorry
all the best though
early days you know
but youre BB mates are here for ya
hello pirate & thank you & yeah.. I know..
its just so shit innit xxx (the Mum thing.. not me looking like William Hague.. although that too is a bit shit )
you know what this is like.. you're alright one minute.. then out of your head with it all the next.. nothing I can do but accept there is no alturnative but to just go with it
if its any consolation i went bonkers 3weeks ago-OH said she was waiting for it to happen
but i tell ya-it was a bit of a release
like i say early for you yet
youre neither here or there at the minute
kinda in limbo
& we had to wait nearly a month for Moms funeral
that waiting time does no favours for your head
try to occupy your brain, get busy doing summat 'til youre knackered, sleep helps/heals
CINDS.. Loooooooook!
My Dad & WILLIAM HAGUE!!!!!
That's brilliant.
Ditty your mum is beautiful in that photo ^ How's your dad coping?
if its any consolation i went bonkers 3weeks ago-OH said she was waiting for it to happen
but i tell ya-it was a bit of a release
like i say early for you yet
youre neither here or there at the minute
kinda in limbo
& we had to wait nearly a month for Moms funeral
that waiting time does no favours for your head
try to occupy your brain, get busy doing summat 'til youre knackered, sleep helps/heals
A MONTH!!! I don't think I could handle that! This having to wait so long for a funeral thing has come as a right shock to me. I always though that unless the coroner was involved then funerals happened within a week of someone dying!
Mind you.. I have just spent 6 weeks in a different limbo place (only it was mostly worse than this.. waiting for/wishing for her to die.. but actually not wanting her to die.. wishing she had never got ill in the first place)
Its funeral arrangements that are gonna cause the agro now.. 2 weeks is just a bit too long for arrangements to be made quickly & stuck to.. there have already been shenanigans & changing of minds amongst some of the first tier of relatives (we have 2nd & 3rd tiers to go yet.. 4th tier is the ones that live somewhere in the depths of Canada.. the ones where no one can quite track exactly how we are related.. but who are still on the christmas card list) .
I have decided I don't care! The funeral is going to just be another wave of hurt... twist of the knife kinda thing...
and yeah... keep busy.... when it gets too much I take Loki out and we walk & walk & walk.. then I get home & if I am still knee jiggling or pacing I take a zopliclone. I know they say that its not the ideal way.. but I don't really care right now.. being able to switch off the brain & sleep has kept me sane so far
Ditty your mum is beautiful in that photo ^ How's your dad coping?
oh god.. just thinking about how to sum that up floors me. ermm, well he's not really. He's trying to cope.. and he slept last night (first time since Monday night), so was marginally better today..
but he's really not doing well. We all knew it was going to be hard on him, but I'd assumed that as he has experienced loss before (his mum and his dad) that he'd have had some inkling of how this was going to be...
but I hadn't factored in that when he lost his Dad, and then when he lost his Mum.. he had my Mum by his side.
That's the problem.... his go to person is the one thats gone
It's completely different losing your life partner Ditty. He might get by fine, it will probably help enormously to talk about her with you all, when he is ready, but do bear in mind grief counselling if necessary, and have a number handy.
I have decided I don't care! The funeral is going to just be another wave of hurt... twist of the knife kinda thing...
and yeah... keep busy.... when it gets too much I take Loki out and we walk & walk & walk.. then I get home & if I am still knee jiggling or pacing I take a zopliclone. I know they say that its not the ideal way.. but I don't really care right now.. being able to switch off the brain & sleep has kept me sane so far
who gives a f**k what anyone says?
you cope how you want to-just try & avoid booze (rich coming from me i know lol)
everyday is a day nearer to feeling better
a sloooow process babes
but a tried & tested one
who gives a f**k what anyone says?
you cope how you want to-just try & avoid booze (rich coming from me i know lol)
everyday is a day nearer to feeling better
a sloooow process babes
but a tried & tested one
THANK YOU
and the booze thing ain't a problem - I've been going off the stuff for years.. I do like a pina colada.. and a few other obscure drinks - none of them are really very good for getting drunk on.
but hearing you say that it gets better.. I know you're still going through it, .. it means a lot xxx
who gives a f**k what anyone says?
you cope how you want to-just try & avoid booze (rich coming from me i know lol)
everyday is a day nearer to feeling better
a sloooow process babes
but a tried & tested one
THANK YOU
and the booze thing ain't a problem - I've been going off the stuff for years.. I do like a pina colada.. and a few other obscure drinks - none of them are really very good for getting drunk on.
but hearing you say that it gets better.. I know you're still going through it, .. it means a lot xxx
anytime
but please be aware i charge for opinions/advice & i shall shortly be sending you my paypal address
Ditty your mum is beautiful in that photo ^ How's your dad coping?
oh god.. just thinking about how to sum that up floors me. ermm, well he's not really. He's trying to cope.. and he slept last night (first time since Monday night), so was marginally better today..
but he's really not doing well. We all knew it was going to be hard on him, but I'd assumed that as he has experienced loss before (his mum and his dad) that he'd have had some inkling of how this was going to be...
but I hadn't factored in that when he lost his Dad, and then when he lost his Mum.. he had my Mum by his side.
That's the problem.... his go to person is the one thats gone
Sorry, hope I haven't upset you
Ditts (or can I call you Billy?)
I posted a song a while back... and reading the bit about not being able to remember the happy times makes me think now should be the time to post it. I won't though, in case you think it's too cheesey.. but the lyrics are, to me, spot on (ok, it's written from the perpective of someone who's lost a partner, but the first verse really is true - especially the last two lines) I love the song
Pretty soon you'll be able to remember her
Lying in the garden singing
Right where she'll always be
The door is always open
This is the place that I loved her
And these are the friends that she had
Long may the mountain ring
To the sound of her laughter
And she goes on and on
In her soft wind I will whisper
In her warm sun I will glisten
'till we see her once again
In a world without end
We owe it all to frank sinatra
The song was playing a she walked into the room
After the long weekend
They were a lifetime together
Appearing in the eyes of children
In the clear blue mountain view
The colouring in the sky
And painting ladders to heaven
And she goes on
In her soft wind I will whisper
In her warm sun I will glisten
'till we see her once again
In a world without end
In her soft wind I will whisper
In her warm sun I will glisten
And I always will remember
In a world without end
She goes on
She goes on
She goes on
Oh god I have laughed SO much reading the last couple of William Hague themed pages
Fabulous pictures Ditty! Love the one on FB of you, your Mum and Dad (and Angus ) too! Your Dad looks so much like your brother!
(Not sure why I'm eeking. Family resemblances aren't really eek worthy are they )
Oh I never thought I'd in this thread, but looking at William Hague!!! Your Mum looked lovely Ditty
Your Mum was a lovely looking lady Ditty.
Happier memories will come After a loved one dies often we punish ourselves, feel guilty and rack over the bad times. You're really in the throes of grief right now. A more balanced picture will emerge in time.
So sorry for your pain. That's the price you pay for loving someone so very much
It's completely different losing your life partner Ditty. He might get by fine, it will probably help enormously to talk about her with you all, when he is ready, but do bear in mind grief counselling if necessary, and have a number handy.
thank you
the hospice team have a follow up bereavement service, i.e. they are aware they are still needed. I had been concerned though, cos my Dad has this belief that real men mustn't be seen to cry (keeps hating on himself for "blubbing" <-- his words) and I know he'd shun anything presented to him as "counselling"...
HOWEVER... The morning Mum died, Rev Trev came down & said Dad was just having some private time with Mum, and I took the opportunity to talk to him about this then.. He has agreed to be Dads bereavement person from the hospice.. I am so relieved, because he'll accept it from the Rev.. and he likes him (we all do actually.. really lovely bloke). So fingers crossed Squiggle... we;ve managed to get him the council ling without him actually realising it
Ditty your mum is beautiful in that photo ^ How's your dad coping?
oh god.. just thinking about how to sum that up floors me. ermm, well he's not really. He's trying to cope.. and he slept last night (first time since Monday night), so was marginally better today..
but he's really not doing well. We all knew it was going to be hard on him, but I'd assumed that as he has experienced loss before (his mum and his dad) that he'd have had some inkling of how this was going to be...
but I hadn't factored in that when he lost his Dad, and then when he lost his Mum.. he had my Mum by his side.
That's the problem.... his go to person is the one thats gone
Sorry, hope I haven't upset you
awww Aims.. no, please don't be sorry...
you haven't upset me.. My Mum dying and my Dads heartbreaking upsets me.. it was nice of you to remember to ask about him.. there really is no need to apologise..
(honest, everytime I see someone and they tell me how sorry they are etc it sets me off... but it doesn't mean I don't appreciate what they are saying to me)
It's completely different losing your life partner Ditty. He might get by fine, it will probably help enormously to talk about her with you all, when he is ready, but do bear in mind grief counselling if necessary, and have a number handy.
thank you
the hospice team have a follow up bereavement service, i.e. they are aware they are still needed. I had been concerned though, cos my Dad has this belief that real men mustn't be seen to cry (keeps hating on himself for "blubbing" <-- his words) and I know he'd shun anything presented to him as "counselling"...
HOWEVER... The morning Mum died, Rev Trev came down & said Dad was just having some private time with Mum, and I took the opportunity to talk to him about this then.. He has agreed to be Dads bereavement person from the hospice.. I am so relieved, because he'll accept it from the Rev.. and he likes him (we all do actually.. really lovely bloke). So fingers crossed Squiggle... we;ve managed to get him the council ling without him actually realising it
That's good Ditty. I'm not a religeous person but if that helps your dad then that's a good thing
Ditts (or can I call you Billy?)
I posted a song a while back... and reading the bit about not being able to remember the happy times makes me think now should be the time to post it. I won't though, in case you think it's too cheesey.. but the lyrics are, to me, spot on (ok, it's written from the perpective of someone who's lost a partner, but the first verse really is true - especially the last two lines) I love the song
Pretty soon you'll be able to remember her
Lying in the garden singing
Right where she'll always be
The door is always open
This is the place that I loved her
And these are the friends that she had
Long may the mountain ring
To the sound of her laughter
And she goes on and on
In her soft wind I will whisper
In her warm sun I will glisten
'till we see her once again
In a world without end
We owe it all to frank sinatra
The song was playing a she walked into the room
After the long weekend
They were a lifetime together
Appearing in the eyes of children
In the clear blue mountain view
The colouring in the sky
And painting ladders to heaven
And she goes on
In her soft wind I will whisper
In her warm sun I will glisten
'till we see her once again
In a world without end
In her soft wind I will whisper
In her warm sun I will glisten
And I always will remember
In a world without end
She goes on
She goes on
She goes on
thank you for this...
hmmmmm... I wonder... I wonder if I can get dad to consider this one for the funeral. I will take it with me on Sunday (ceremony planning with the vicar) and see what he thinks.
Crowded House - we wanted "Whenever I Fall" at our wedding ceremony.. til we actually sat down & properly listened to the lyrics.. it was the lines
I'm really close tonight
And I feel like I'm moving inside her
Lying in the dark
And I think that I'm beginning to know her
Maaaybe not then
Oh god I have laughed SO much reading the last couple of William Hague themed pages
Fabulous pictures Ditty! Love the one on FB of you, your Mum and Dad (and Angus ) too! Your Dad looks so much like your brother!
(Not sure why I'm eeking. Family resemblances aren't really eek worthy are they )
Oh I never thought I'd in this thread, but looking at William Hague!!! Your Mum looked lovely Ditty
Laughter.. if I ever stop laughing then I know I am well & truly scuppered
& yes.. My Mum looks so lovely in those pics doesn;t she
Ditty
Trev the Rev sounds like the right kind of bloke for your dad
ok.. last William Hague pic (I HOPE)... you might as well see them all...
ready?
Ditty
Trev the Rev sounds like the right kind of bloke for your dad
I know! Perfect for him! (Dad calls him Trev the Rev too )
and... and...and...
he has managed to unearth a load of baby pics of me LOOKING LIKE WILLIAM HAGUE!!!
That's a brilliant picture ditty, your Mum was a beautiful young woman.
Am I allowed to laugh at William Hague?
It's compulsory to laugh at William Hague
Gorgeous woman, ditty xx
ok.. last William Hague pic (I HOPE)... you might as well see them all...
ready?
! They reshaped your head by mowing you down with a Morris!
I like the sound of Trev the Rev Ditty Be good for your dad to have him looking out for him . You take care xxx
DPGT,
You have my heartfelt sympathies. My mother has been very ill for some time now and seems to make a recovery only to get ill again. She is hospitalised, bedridden with numerous complications and it really is one day at a time. I get quite reflective and think how she's not had the best of things for quite a while. She worked so hard for the family and somewhat ungrateful kids - me included.
If she gets better I will pull my finger out to make sure she gets much more out of life. Easily said, and complacency seeps in. I am my mother's son. She's been a huge influence on me. Of course, she has her faults, as anyone has.
Drinking seems selfish and self indulgent when my mother's suffering so much, and yet, a temporary release from the thoughts swimming around is what she would want, putting others first.
I can't know how I will react and what I will think if the worst comes to the worst. What thoughts will be swimming around, what regrets and what anguish
Sorry to bang on about my own concerns at this time. Hope you have lots of lovely memories of your mum.
I hope you're coping as best you can
I think Ditty will be proud to have given us all space to share our experiences of loss. I know I learn from hearing all FMs insight and advice.
This is one that our disappeared FM Marge inspired me when my mum died.
Death is nothing at all.
I have only slipped away to the next room.
I am I and you are you.
Whatever we were to each other,
That, we still are.
Call me by my old familiar name.
Speak to me in the easy way
which you always used.
Put no difference into your tone.
Wear no forced air of solemnity or sorrow.
Laugh as we always laughed
at the little jokes we enjoyed together.
Play, smile, think of me. Pray for me.
Let my name be ever the household word
that it always was.
Let it be spoken without effect.
Without the trace of a shadow on it.
Life means all that it ever meant.
It is the same that it ever was.
There is absolute unbroken continuity.
Why should I be out of mind
because I am out of sight?
I am but waiting for you.
For an interval.
Somewhere. Very near.
Just around the corner.
All is well.
Lowi! How you doing! Missing you loads and don't know how to chat with you as I'm not on FB or Twitter.
DPGT,
You have my heartfelt sympathies. My mother has been very ill for some time now and seems to make a recovery only to get ill again. She is hospitalised, bedridden with numerous complications and it really is one day at a time. I get quite reflective and think how she's not had the best of things for quite a while. She worked so hard for the family and somewhat ungrateful kids - me included.
If she gets better I will pull my finger out to make sure she gets much more out of life. Easily said, and complacency seeps in. I am my mother's son. She's been a huge influence on me. Of course, she has her faults, as anyone has.
Drinking seems selfish and self indulgent when my mother's suffering so much, and yet, a temporary release from the thoughts swimming around is what she would want, putting others first.
I can't know how I will react and what I will think if the worst comes to the worst. What thoughts will be swimming around, what regrets and what anguish
Sorry to bang on about my own concerns at this time. Hope you have lots of lovely memories of your mum.
I hope you're coping as best you can
Seriously... where you are is horrible.. really really horrible..
its so hard, cos we love them, really love them, but they do still have their faults as well.. I struggled terribly with this (still am).. but then as you say we ALL have faults.. the thing is at the end of the day between parents & offspring it really doesn't matter.
My brother has been complacent this last year, many here know just how fraught that side of things all got.. I would have happily beat ten balls out of him at one point, but Mum never felt like that.. she was never even upset.. just concerned that he didn't get stressed and pressured into coming to see her what with his hectic life & all (she's gone, its over, I am refusing to let myself get wound up about this anymore)... BUT.. he came through in the final weeks..
I struggled to be at her bedside when things got really bad.. I was there, but it was my brother that finally prioritised her, got permission to work from home (their house), was able to help my Dad with the lifting & the very personal care mum ended up needing. I was crap at it.. I couldn't handle watching her distress at her loss of dignity.. My brother however was good at this side of things. So, he made up for it.
Don't wait til she gets better.. be there for her now. For your own sake.
I've put Mum first for the past 14 months & I still feel guilty I didn't do enough sometimes.. so I think the guilt must be unavoidable whatever we do.
& drink - yeah.. we all need one of those sometimes.. My Mum did.. everyday at 4pm she was allowed a glass of wine.. right up to the day before she died
awww I do feel for you.. I've spent a year trying to anticipate how this would feel when it happened.. knowing it was going to hurt.. all I can say is its pretty much as you suspect its going to be.. hurts, really hurts, sad, loss, fear, the odd futile infantile outbreaks of "Its not fair" or "I just want my Mum back"..
Its so horrible Carnelian.. my heart goes out to you.. I remember being your side of it, and seeing people my side of it, and kinda envying them that they were that much more further on than me. Even though it would mean I would see Mum again (& god knows how much I would give to see her one more time) I wouldn't want to go back six months and do it all again.. too hard, too sad.. it feels like you're breaking.
Take it easy on yourself xxx Its hard as hell being where you are at the moment xxxx
I think Ditty will be proud to have given us all space to share our experiences of loss. I know I learn from hearing all FMs insight and advice.
This is one that our disappeared FM Marge inspired me when my mum died.
Death is nothing at all.
I have only slipped away to the next room.
I am I and you are you.
Whatever we were to each other,
That, we still are.
Call me by my old familiar name.
Speak to me in the easy way
which you always used.
Put no difference into your tone.
Wear no forced air of solemnity or sorrow.
Laugh as we always laughed
at the little jokes we enjoyed together.
Play, smile, think of me. Pray for me.
Let my name be ever the household word
that it always was.
Let it be spoken without effect.
Without the trace of a shadow on it.
Life means all that it ever meant.
It is the same that it ever was.
There is absolute unbroken continuity.
Why should I be out of mind
because I am out of sight?
I am but waiting for you.
For an interval.
Somewhere. Very near.
Just around the corner.
All is well.
oh
thank you for this...
Dtty
I was on hols last week, so have only just seen this. Look after yourself too in the weeks ahead.
DPGT,
You have my heartfelt sympathies. My mother has been very ill for some time now and seems to make a recovery only to get ill again. She is hospitalised, bedridden with numerous complications and it really is one day at a time. I get quite reflective and think how she's not had the best of things for quite a while. She worked so hard for the family and somewhat ungrateful kids - me included.
If she gets better I will pull my finger out to make sure she gets much more out of life. Easily said, and complacency seeps in. I am my mother's son. She's been a huge influence on me. Of course, she has her faults, as anyone has.
Drinking seems selfish and self indulgent when my mother's suffering so much, and yet, a temporary release from the thoughts swimming around is what she would want, putting others first.
I can't know how I will react and what I will think if the worst comes to the worst. What thoughts will be swimming around, what regrets and what anguish
Sorry to bang on about my own concerns at this time. Hope you have lots of lovely memories of your mum.
I hope you're coping as best you can
Seriously... where you are is horrible.. really really horrible..
its so hard, cos we love them, really love them, but they do still have their faults as well.. I struggled terribly with this (still am).. but then as you say we ALL have faults.. the thing is at the end of the day between parents & offspring it really doesn't matter.
My brother has been complacent this last year, many here know just how fraught that side of things all got.. I would have happily beat ten balls out of him at one point, but Mum never felt like that.. she was never even upset.. just concerned that he didn't get stressed and pressured into coming to see her what with his hectic life & all (she's gone, its over, I am refusing to let myself get wound up about this anymore)... BUT.. he came through in the final weeks..
I struggled to be at her bedside when things got really bad.. I was there, but it was my brother that finally prioritised her, got permission to work from home (their house), was able to help my Dad with the lifting & the very personal care mum ended up needing. I was crap at it.. I couldn't handle watching her distress at her loss of dignity.. My brother however was good at this side of things. So, he made up for it.
Don't wait til she gets better.. be there for her now. For your own sake.
I've put Mum first for the past 14 months & I still feel guilty I didn't do enough sometimes.. so I think the guilt must be unavoidable whatever we do.
& drink - yeah.. we all need one of those sometimes.. My Mum did.. everyday at 4pm she was allowed a glass of wine.. right up to the day before she died
awww I do feel for you.. I've spent a year trying to anticipate how this would feel when it happened.. knowing it was going to hurt.. all I can say is its pretty much as you suspect its going to be.. hurts, really hurts, sad, loss, fear, the odd futile infantile outbreaks of "Its not fair" or "I just want my Mum back"..
Its so horrible Carnelian.. my heart goes out to you.. I remember being your side of it, and seeing people my side of it, and kinda envying them that they were that much more further on than me. Even though it would mean I would see Mum again (& god knows how much I would give to see her one more time) I wouldn't want to go back six months and do it all again.. too hard, too sad.. it feels like you're breaking.
Take it easy on yourself xxx Its hard as hell being where you are at the moment xxxx
Thank you for your kind your words and concern, Especially at this time for you and sorry to bring my own concerns at this terrible time for you.
It's difficult for me to find the words to articulate, but what I want to say is the best of wishes and concern are with you at this awful time.
Dtty
I was on hols last week, so have only just seen this. Look after yourself too in the weeks ahead.
Thank you xxx
& thank you.. you know.. for the hope you helped me hang onto when this all started. it helped.. it helped a lot. I told my Mum about it and it helped her too.
So thank you xxxx
It's difficult for me to find the words to articulate, but what I want to say is the best of wishes and concern are with you at this awful time.
Thank you xxx
and yeah, "finding the right words to articulate" especially on somthing as complex as all this - I struggle with that too xx
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