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Originally posted by suzybean:
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Originally posted by tupps:
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Originally posted by suzybean:
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Originally posted by tupps:
I have to say.. as genius at being a pantomine villain Bea is.. she is getting on my lils with this positivity/negativity/aura malarkey.


Nod seeing as she obviously doesn't believe all that guff.


That is as fake as her antique/retro clothes collection.. of which most can be bought in Top Shop.

I just know in 10 years time she'll be in Hunters and a wax jacket mucking out the ponies and screaming at little Jacinta and Tarquin.. and there won't be any of this positivity guff in sight.

I still like her though.. she's fascinating telly.



I have been consistant in thinking that she has been good for the show's dynamics, it was all becoming a little predictable. But I can't stand her (or rather her 'character').
I have to admit though, she really wasn't that cruel to Freddie, she could have said a lot more. Freddie's reaction was more to do with his idea that he had found his soulmate being shattered. Bea can't be blamed for Freddie planning a future for them as a couple.


If she is this character in RL then I would probably find her a bit too much like hard work... but in the house she's HM gold.

I'm with you suze.. I don't think she was nearly as awful as she could have been. In fact she seems very non-confrontational even when she is being confrontational. Always mindful that we don't have LF and last year taught me that what happens in the HL show can be viewed in a completely different way once it is context.. I've even come to the conclusion that from the little I've seen, I probably wouldn't have been quite so diplomatic with Freddie. Ninja

Nod I think there is an awful lot going on in the deep dark recesses of Mr Fisher's mind and not all of it based in reality.. and Bea can't be blamed for that.
tupps
Put the cattle prod away Rawky. Roll Eyes I championed her when she first arrived, and applauded her sense of telling it like it is, and thought...at last someone who can hold her own against the nasties ! However, she only tells it as she sees it in the world of Bea, and she has proven time after time, that she's a nasty piece of work, who doesn't give a stuff about anybody other than herself! Dunno about the rest of them in there, and what they REALLY think of her, but she has seriously become a complete headf**k, and while it's fascinating to watch her, it's also disturbing to see her sally forth and be the mistress of her own self destruction.
FM
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Originally posted by Tiddly~Wink:
Put the cattle prod away Rawky. Roll Eyes I championed her when she first arrived, and applauded her sense of telling it like it is, and thought...at last someone who can hold her own against the nasties ! However, she only tells it as she sees it in the world of Bea, and she has proven time after time, that she's a nasty piece of work, who doesn't give a stuff about anybody other than herself! Dunno about the rest of them in there, and what they REALLY think of her, but she has seriously become a complete headf**k, and while it's fascinating to watch her, it's also disturbing to see her sally forth and be the mistress of her own self destruction.


Oooh get your handbags out Big Grin
Rawky-Roo
I think Bea is truly disappointed that this has happened with Freddie. I believe she wanted to be friends with him but Freddie thought he could take it to another level even though she clearly told him otherwise. Thats when the relationship changed.

He turned into a lapdog around her, she had no peace from him at all. He even badgered her when she was in the bath fgs. He is so wearing I dont blame Bea for distancing herself completely
kazzy
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Originally posted by Rawky-Roo:
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Originally posted by Tiddly~Wink:
Put the cattle prod away Rawky. Roll Eyes I championed her when she first arrived, and applauded her sense of telling it like it is, and thought...at last someone who can hold her own against the nasties ! However, she only tells it as she sees it in the world of Bea, and she has proven time after time, that she's a nasty piece of work, who doesn't give a stuff about anybody other than herself! Dunno about the rest of them in there, and what they REALLY think of her, but she has seriously become a complete headf**k, and while it's fascinating to watch her, it's also disturbing to see her sally forth and be the mistress of her own self destruction.


Oooh get your handbags out Big Grin

Lot less lethal and harmless than a cattle prod eh? *sticks brick in Hermes Birkin* Big Grin
FM
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Originally posted by kazzy:
I think Bea is truly disappointed that this has happened with Freddie. I believe she wanted to be friends with him but Freddie thought he could take it to another level even though she clearly told him otherwise. Thats when the relationship changed.

He turned into a lapdog around her, she had no peace from him at all. He even badgered her when she was in the bath fgs. He is so wearing I dont blame Bea for distancing herself completely


I remember Tom (oh what a disaster losing him was) saying, when he got out of the house, that when he was watching he didn't see what HMs were saying about Freddie being difficult to live with... but that when he went in he understood.. nice guy but a pain in the azz.

Now.. imagine that coupled with terrier like amour and shadowing.. I do think that would try the patience of a saint.

Like Marcus said to Bea when she was discussing him and her feelings towards him.. he's pissed everyone off at some time, maybe it is your turn... so maybe she is going through the very thing they all went through in the early(ish) days of the house when practically everyone at some time or another was apparently exasperated... it's just writ large because she is the only one experiencing it.
tupps
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Originally posted by tupps:
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Originally posted by kazzy:
I think Bea is truly disappointed that this has happened with Freddie. I believe she wanted to be friends with him but Freddie thought he could take it to another level even though she clearly told him otherwise. Thats when the relationship changed.

He turned into a lapdog around her, she had no peace from him at all. He even badgered her when she was in the bath fgs. He is so wearing I dont blame Bea for distancing herself completely


I remember Tom (oh what a disaster losing him was) saying, when he got out of the house, that when he was watching he didn't see what HMs were saying about Freddie being difficult to live with... but that when he went in he understood.. nice guy but a pain in the azz.

Now.. imagine that coupled with terrier like amour and shadowing.. I do think that would try the patience of a saint.

Like Marcus said to Bea when she was discussing him and her feelings towards him.. he's pissed everyone off at some time, maybe it is your turn... so maybe she is going through the very thing they all went through in the early(ish) days of the house when practically everyone at some time or another was apparently exasperated... it's just writ large because she is the only one experiencing it.


True .... Im sure when Bea asked Marcus to speak to Freddie last night Marcus said "we,ve seen it all before, he always does this"

Not having LF we are only getting small doses of Freddie....imagine 24/7 Crazy
kazzy
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Originally posted by kazzy:
True .... Im sure when Bea asked Marcus to speak to Freddie last night Marcus said "we,ve seen it all before, he always does this"

Not having LF we are only getting small doses of Freddie....imagine 24/7 Crazy


Yeah Marcus did say that.. verrrrrrrrrr telling.

Unfortunately, I can imagine Freddie 24/7.. which may be why the way he has been acting lately holds no water with me. I used to know a Freddie.. small doses ok.. locked in a house with him 24/7.. I would have throttled him by now or been so completely bliddy horrible to him that he'd get the message, leave me alone and give me some space.
tupps
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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Glance wavey Glance
Is it safe in here? Laugh
Bea did kinda, 'kick a man when he was down,' but imo, if you break it down, all she did was accuse him of negativity,(which he is guilty of and he had accused her of,) and making assumptions re what she said to other hms, (which were incorrect on his part); tell him she didn't want to sleep with/next to him,(no nore hand jobs there then,) and say things in front of other hms which they had decided for themselves weeks ago anyway.....She can be responsible for her behaviour, (which was a bit OTT admittedly,) but not for his excessive, melodramatic, reaction to it


Clapping Nod Clapping
Blizz'ard
i'm not waiting for a damascus moment from bea, i like her as she is but, i also have nagging memories of past bb's.
in particular the one with aisleyne in it, where her coverage on highlights was a hatchet job.
then the one with pete in it,and we all know what happened there.
i'm not saying either of these two things has happened during this bb, but i do have an open mind about it.
jacksonb
We're not seeing LF... therefore we have no real context. We see some beginnings, some middles, some ends (if we are lucky) but never the full picture.

Last year there were pitch battles about HL shows.. misinformation and misinterpretation were rife until someone who saw the whole thing put the matters in context.

*adopts Freddie-esque am-dram voice* I have nooooo re-zonnnn to doubt that may be happening here!
tupps
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Originally posted by JacksonB:
i'm not waiting for a damascus moment from bea, i like her as she is but, i also have nagging memories of past bb's.
in particular the one with aisleyne in it, where her coverage on highlights was a hatchet job.
then the one with pete in it,and we all know what happened there.
i'm not saying either of these two things has happened during this bb, but i do have an open mind about it.


You wanna be in the brigade?
Rawky-Roo
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Originally posted by Rawky-Roo:
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Originally posted by JacksonB:
i'm not waiting for a damascus moment from bea, i like her as she is but, i also have nagging memories of past bb's.
in particular the one with aisleyne in it, where her coverage on highlights was a hatchet job.
then the one with pete in it,and we all know what happened there.
i'm not saying either of these two things has happened during this bb, but i do have an open mind about it.


You wanna be in the brigade?
i'll stick my bayonet over the parapets, now and then.
jacksonb
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Originally posted by JacksonB:
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Originally posted by Rawky-Roo:
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Originally posted by JacksonB:
i'm not waiting for a damascus moment from bea, i like her as she is but, i also have nagging memories of past bb's.
in particular the one with aisleyne in it, where her coverage on highlights was a hatchet job.
then the one with pete in it,and we all know what happened there.
i'm not saying either of these two things has happened during this bb, but i do have an open mind about it.


You wanna be in the brigade?
i'll stick my bayonet over the parapets, now and then.


Alright, well you've got the role of 'Negotiator' now Nod
Rawky-Roo
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Originally posted by JacksonB:
i'm not waiting for a damascus moment from bea, i like her as she is but, i also have nagging memories of past bb's.
in particular the one with aisleyne in it, where her coverage on highlights was a hatchet job.
then the one with pete in it,and we all know what happened there.
i'm not saying either of these two things has happened during this bb, but i do have an open mind about it.


So, basically, you only remember BB7? Glance
Blizz'ard
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Originally posted by tupps:
We're not seeing LF... therefore we have no real context. We see some beginnings, some middles, some ends (if we are lucky) but never the full picture.

Last year there were pitch battles about HL shows.. misinformation and misinterpretation were rife until someone who saw the whole thing put the matters in context.

*adopts Freddie-esque am-dram voice* I have nooooo re-zonnnn to doubt that may be happening here!


Laugh Laugh
Blizz'ard
I feel a bit bad saying I HATE Bea like I did yesterday. I don't: I was just mad at her, as I am very fond of Freddie... I don't hate her; I just hate the way she has behaved this week, and I feel sorry for Freddie and think his 'upset' last night 'was' genuine.

And I totally respect anyone who still likes her a lot though, and has not gone off her and may think Freddie is a drama queen. We are all entitled to our views, after all, and I like all you guys on here who still support Bea Thumbs Up Rawky, Maz, Blizzie, Tupps and all of ya, so I would hate to fall out over me going off her - and as I said, I don't hate her, but I do think she was pretty mean to Freddie. And TBH, I have been going off her slowly for about a week. Frowner

So I have just gone off her, and really can't be in the Bea-support group any longer... but I still love y'all! And I think we can all still be friends and be civil without any bad feeling.

So here's a wee gift for you lot:

CheekyPixie
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Originally posted by Blizzie:
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Originally posted by JacksonB:
i'm not waiting for a damascus moment from bea, i like her as she is but, i also have nagging memories of past bb's.
in particular the one with aisleyne in it, where her coverage on highlights was a hatchet job.
then the one with pete in it,and we all know what happened there.
i'm not saying either of these two things has happened during this bb, but i do have an open mind about it.


So, basically, you only remember BB7? Glance
some people are so picky.
jacksonb
I am in the Bea brigade, definately. I think she is great. Freddie, Siavash and Marcus were actring like nobs and I thought she was right in the way she responded. I personally think they are all out of order for the way they have treated her. Go Bea!

I thought it was going to be another boys BB but I am loving the ladies at the moment, Bea and Sophie all the way Thumbs Up
L
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Originally posted by Lindsxdx:
I am in the Bea brigade, definately. I think she is great. Freddie, Siavash and Marcus were actring like nobs and I thought she was right in the way she responded. I personally think they are all out of order for the way they have treated her. Go Bea!

I thought it was going to be another boys BB but I am loving the ladies at the moment, Bea and Sophie all the way Thumbs Up


Awesome, you role in the Brigade is : Seductress Thumbs Up
Rawky-Roo
It kind of all kicked off on LF after 2pm.
Bea was having a go at Freddie again. I missed that, but after Freddie went to bed, she laid into Marcus who was a good match for her.Did not let her off the hook. Charlie butted in and made and just confused the issue a little, but Bea did not come out of it well at all. She accused Marcus of the same things she accused Freddie of. Saying that he was attacking her, when in fact he was very reasonable and clam. she can't have anyone disagree with her, that's her problem.
Green&Pink

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