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in this proud land we grew up strong
we were wanted all along
I was taught to fight, taught to win
I never thought I could fail

no fight left or so it seems
I am a man whose dreams have all deserted
I've changed my face, I've changed my name
but no one wants you when you lose

don't give up
'cos you have friends
don't give up
you're not beaten yet
don't give up
I know you can make it good

though I saw it all around
never thought that I could be affected
thought that we'd be last to go
it is so strange the way things turn

drove the night toward my home
the place where I was born, on the lakeside
as daylight broke, I saw the earth
the trees had burned down to the ground

don't give up
you still have us
don't give up
we don't need much of anything
don't give up
'cause somewhere there's a place
where we belong

rest your head
you worry too much
it's going to be alright
when times get rough
you can fall back on us
don't give up
please don't give up

'got to walk out of here
I can't take anymore
going to stand on that bridge
keep my eyes down below
whatever may come
and whatever may go
that river's flowing
that river's flowing

moved on to another town
tried hard to settle down
for every job, so many men
so many men no-one needs

don't give up
'cause you have friends
don't give up
you're not the only one
don't give up
no reason to be ashamed
don't give up
you still have us
don't give up now
we're proud of who you are
don't give up
you know it's never been easy
don't give up
'cause I believe there's a place
there's a place where we belong
SS
The long and winding road
That leads to your door
Will never disappear
I've seen that road before
It always leads me here
Lead me to you door

The wild and windy night
That the rain washed away
Has left a pool of tears
Crying for the day
Why leave me standing here
Let me know the way

Many times I've been alone
And many times I've cried
Any way you'll never know
The many ways I've tried

But still they lead me back
To the long winding road
You left me standing here
A long long time ago
Don't leave me waiting here
Lead me to your door

But still they lead me back
To the long winding road
You left me standing here
A long long time ago
Don't leave me waiting here
Lead me to your door
SS
I've only read the first page because I know I'll be blubbing before I reach the end of this thread.

I have been in the same situation with my 2 sons.
We got out. But I do have the guilt of not having got out sooner. It wasn't only me who ended up being battered...he eventually started on my boys too. That's when I moved my arse into gear.

He was denied access and I never waivered when I got the occasional pleading letter from one of his family. He hadn't changed but they had no scruples - they had no real concern for the kids, only themselves. He himself never asked to see the kids and announced he had no intention of cleaning up his act as he had no reason to.

He took on a 2nd family and did precisely the same thing to his new wife. From going to the cat that had the cream (they got together whilst I was still living in the same village...the divorce proceding had only just started), she ended up on first name terms with the A&E department.

We luckily moved away before it all came crashing down around him.
We found a happy life and have never looked back...and never saw him again apart from passing sightings. He looked as he was, pathetic.

If any one ever wonders what makes a woman stick around then it is this: you feel safer with what you know despite it being based on fear and misery. The pressure to do the right thing when you have children is terrifying...the fear of the unknown feels less safe than the harsh reality of what you're enduring.

It's bizarre.
Cosmopolitan
My little sister had the same problem with her ex hubby.

He owns a few bars and thinks he is the big shot in the area they live in, he was and probably still is nothing more than a jumped up violent cheating coke head.

He had my pregnant sister by the hair dragging her about the house in a coke fuelled rage.

She begged me and my brother not to interfere, so we didn't.

So my advice to you is if you have brothers send them round. Nod
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Originally posted by daydreamy:
Karma I cant believe you admitted that Ninja

I am taking my kids out for ice cream, many thanks to everyone for giving their support or words of advice and for reading Hug


I've posted it on about 5 peoples facebook pages aswell! I'm such a caaaah Laugh

Have fun with the kiddies and dont be a stranger on here ok? Take care of you Valentine
Karma_
quote:
Originally posted by ~Cosmopolitan~:
I've only read the first page because I know I'll be blubbing before I reach the end of this thread.

I have been in the same situation with my 2 sons.
We got out. But I do have the guilt of not having got out sooner. It wasn't only me who ended up being battered...he eventually started on my boys too. That's when I moved my arse into gear.

He was denied access and I never waivered when I got the occasional pleading letter from one of his family. He hadn't changed but they had no scruples - they had no real concern for the kids, only themselves. He himself never asked to see the kids and announced he had no intention of cleaning up his act as he had no reason to.

He took on a 2nd family and did precisely the same thing to his new wife. From going to the cat that had the cream (they got together whilst I was still living in the same village...the divorce proceding had only just started), she ended up on first name terms with the A&E department.

We luckily moved away before it all came crashing down around him.
We found a happy life and have never looked back...and never saw him again apart from passing sightings. He looked as he was, pathetic.

If any one ever wonders what makes a woman stick around then it is this: you feel safer with what you know despite it being based on fear and misery. The pressure to do the right thing when you have children is terrifying...the fear of the unknown feels less safe than the harsh reality of what you're enduring.

It's bizarre.


Bless you mate xxx But going to bed at night and being able to sleep and wake up with no fear is a wonderful thing isn't it? Cant put a price on that.
Karma_
quote:
Originally posted by 12345:
My little sister had the same problem with her ex hubby.

He owns a few bars and thinks he is the big shot in the area they live in, he was and probably still is nothing more than a jumped up violent cheating coke head.

He had my pregnant sister by the hair dragging her about the house in a coke fuelled rage.

She begged me and my brother not to interfere, so we didn't.

So my advice to you is if you have brothers send them round. Nod


The reason she didn't want you to get involved was through fear it would end up being taken out on her. She obviously wasn't in a strong enough position mentally to leave at that point. I also know how frustrating it is to watch a destructive situation and feel powerless to do anything, it's not easy.

Good choice of song BTW Thumbs Up
Karma_
quote:
Originally posted by skive:
For everyone here Hug

And to those who might criticise people who choose to ask for advice here all I can say is that someone may be reading who is in that situation and they may not post but just reading that they are not alone could help enormously.


It can be frustrating when so many incidentals are considered not relevant in the legal sense.
Venting via a keyboard is theraputic and helps you get things into perspective, I think and it's great for keeping you sane.

Shame t'internet weren't available when I was going through it. Quill and parchment just wasn't the same.... Wink
Cosmopolitan
quote:
Originally posted by ~Cosmopolitan~:
quote:
Originally posted by Karma_:

Bless you mate xxx But going to bed at night and being able to sleep and wake up with no fear is a wonderful thing isn't it? Cant put a price on that.


Hi Karma. Hug for you.
I'm in Smug Land and have been for the last 20 years. Can't believe my luck, but there you go. Big Grin


And bloody good for you too woman! Thumbs Up xx
Karma_
quote:
Originally posted by 12345:
My little sister had the same problem with her ex hubby.

He owns a few bars and thinks he is the big shot in the area they live in, he was and probably still is nothing more than a jumped up violent cheating coke head.

He had my pregnant sister by the hair dragging her about the house in a coke fuelled rage.

She begged me and my brother not to interfere, so we didn't.

So my advice to you is if you have brothers send them round. Nod



No don't. I have no brothers but I do have a dad and various uncles who aren't the sort to mess about.

I kept as much as I could from them until the legal proceding were in place. It was for the best as it reined my dad's neck in (not to mention his murderous emotions).

The thought of my dad, or my uncles, ending up in the slammer over that vile oaf was more than I could cope with. Now that really would have been a guilt trip.

And besides, softly softly, catchee monkey....
Cosmopolitan
Frowner Been through this myself, albeit about 10 years ago, when my son (then 8) turned round to me and said "Dont let daddy come back, coz he'll only hurt you again"!!! This was the one thing that made me realise I couldnt put my kids through seeing it go on anymore! It is very hard. My son still will have absolutely nothing to do with his father. Both my girls did for a very short time over the last year,(after having not seen him for many years- long story) but he has again alienated them both. Theyve never received birthday/christmas cards/presents from him (except for last year when one did coz she was having contact!) and of course Ive never received a penny in maintenance. Things will get better, believe me. Nothing worse than being married to someone who beats you up. I put up with it for nearly 9 years, and shouldve thrown him out long before I did; Well, actually, I didnt; The police had to forcibly remove him! Believe me, kids know what is going on which is why you have done the right thing. Try not to worry. Just take care of yourself and them Hug
Little Miss Spurs

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