quote:"increased ".." likelihood of strong El Niños"?
This is a quote from the paper that I edited so that, grammatically it more sense in my post. I don't think change it so much as to misrepresent the paper(to be sure please follow the link

quote:"increased ".." likelihood of strong El Niños"?
quote:More of a question really but in This paper from Hansen et-al, what are the mechanics for the transference of heat caused by co2 from the 'airier' portion of the atmosphere into the oceans to cause [with hind-sight] the "increased ".." likelihood of strong El Niños"?
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Is this more Butterfly effect?
Been digging around suricat and I think the the only way that the reflected energy from GHGs could effect the El Niños events with any balls would be if it was stored within the oceanic conveyor system and was released thus.quote:Originally posted by mufcdiver:
More of a question really but in This paper from Hansen et-al, what are the mechanics for the transference of heat caused by co2 from the 'airier' portion of the atmosphere into the oceans to cause [with hind-sight] the "increased ".." likelihood of strong El Niños"?
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Been digging around suricat and I think the the only way that the reflected energy from GHGs could effect the El Niños events with any balls would be if it was stored within the oceanic conveyor system and was released thus.
Wouldn't this take decades? even centuries?
quote:What are your thoughts SoM (either on solar activity, or NASA policy)?
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I've got to the stage now where there are so many cycles interacting with each other i'm not even convinced that the effect of any one can be identified in the global temperature record (even if it were reasonably accurate).
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It may help Svensmark draw some empirical conclusions about cosmic ray efects.
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There was a nice article on WUWT today which just about sums up the impact side of things as we've often discussed.
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It makes me think more and more that the science and models is a sideshow to distract from solid, realistic planning vs artificial panic considerstions.
I particularly the perspective created by this quote from the essay.
quote:UV directly infuses depths, that include the oceanic conveyor, with energy. What of this?
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I don't know if you remember suricat, but I was looking into UV effects on water (both frozen & liquid) on C4s boards with out a great deal of success.
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I even had an email exchange with Dr Paul Crutzen which came to nothing.
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Have you had better luck?
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Does UV have any interaction with water vapor in this way suricat?
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I found this from Australia which is bothered solely with clouds and refraction. It possibly asks more questions that it answers on here but it also begs the question; Are the right questions being asked?
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