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Originally posted by Karma_:

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Originally posted by demonickitten:

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Originally posted by Karma_:
8.5 stone and 5ft 10 - and this was the dude supposedly at the O2 press conference? Meh.

I said at the time that was a lookylikey...body shape was all wrong ..but did they listen? Double meh.

I said it too And they reckon that the voice you heard at the O2 was his 'real' speaking voice, and for the last 150 years the speaking voice we've heard was for the cameras

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Originally posted by The Secretary:

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Originally posted by longcat:
The autopsy proved MJ was a liar. He always claimed he only had plastic surgery once on his nose.

Nobody ever believed that, surely?

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Originally posted by longcat:

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Originally posted by The Secretary:

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Originally posted by longcat:
The autopsy proved MJ was a liar. He always claimed he only had plastic surgery once on his nose.

Nobody ever believed that, surely?

Only Michael Jackson and a few deluded fans.

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

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Originally posted by Giggles:

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Originally posted by demonickitten:
Its a shame,why didnt his family get him help?

This is an interview with his dad...Ker-Lick

...some family eh? Says it all.

You know what? I think he is just being strong for the family and brushing things aside, he could have shown a little emotion though... And the shameless plugging of his company shouldnt have happened.. But who knows what is going on in his head eh? People grieve in different ways.... His Mom is the sensitive one I hope this doesnt kill her because she really loved Michael......

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Originally posted by WILDER X:

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I think his father is at the root of most of MJ's issues if his auto-biog and various interviews are anything to go by. Joe Jackson has no emotions....and is driven by the mighty $...MJ has claimed he was whipped and abused in many other ways by the man...hardly the right person to be paying tribute to him imo.

I am by no means MJ's biggest fan, yet feel he deserved better from his own father. It is a tragically early and bizarre death, I only hope he finds in death the peace that eluded him in life.

I agree.
It's a shame no one stood up to michael and tryed to help him.
They shouldn't of let him have his own way all the time.
He was mentally ill.

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Originally posted by Templetonpeck:

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

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Originally posted by Giggles:

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Originally posted by demonickitten:
Its a shame,why didnt his family get him help?

This is an interview with his dad...Ker-Lick

...some family eh? Says it all.

You know what? I think he is just being strong for the family and brushing things aside, he could have shown a little emotion though... And the shameless plugging of his company shouldnt have happened.. But who knows what is going on in his head eh? People grieve in different ways.... His Mom is the sensitive one I hope this doesnt kill her because she really loved Michael......

I don't know how you could defend that man

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

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Originally posted by Giggles:

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Originally posted by demonickitten:
Its a shame,why didnt his family get him help?

This is an interview with his dad...Ker-Lick

...some family eh? Says it all.

You know what? I think he is just being strong for the family and brushing things aside, he could have shown a little emotion though... And the shameless plugging of his company shouldnt have happened.. But who knows what is going on in his head eh? People grieve in different ways.... His Mom is the sensitive one I hope this doesnt kill her because she really loved Michael......

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Originally posted by fz:

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

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Originally posted by Giggles:

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Originally posted by demonickitten:
Its a shame,why didnt his family get him help?

This is an interview with his dad...Ker-Lick

...some family eh? Says it all.

You know what? I think he is just being strong for the family and brushing things aside, he could have shown a little emotion though... And the shameless plugging of his company shouldnt have happened.. But who knows what is going on in his head eh? People grieve in different ways.... His Mom is the sensitive one I hope this doesnt kill her because she really loved Michael......

You're kidding right?

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They were all yes men collecting pay checks... My worry is why the family didnt intervene but I fear he may have alienated himself....

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Originally posted by Giggles:

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

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Originally posted by Giggles:

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Originally posted by demonickitten:
Its a shame,why didnt his family get him help?

This is an interview with his dad...Ker-Lick

...some family eh? Says it all.

You know what? I think he is just being strong for the family and brushing things aside, he could have shown a little emotion though... And the shameless plugging of his company shouldnt have happened.. But who knows what is going on in his head eh? People grieve in different ways.... His Mom is the sensitive one I hope this doesnt kill her because she really loved Michael......

No without wanting to patronise you, I'm presuming you're very young pretty~cocoa~eyes. Look up the history of MJ's father. He's one nasty piece of work and who I would lay 90% of his sons problems firmly at his feet.

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

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Originally posted by longcat:

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Originally posted by The Secretary:

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Originally posted by longcat:
The autopsy proved MJ was a liar. He always claimed he only had plastic surgery once on his nose.

Nobody ever believed that, surely?

Only Michael Jackson and a few deluded fans.

You dont have to insult the fans like that it's not very nice...

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

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Originally posted by Templetonpeck:

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

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Originally posted by Giggles:

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Originally posted by demonickitten:
Its a shame,why didnt his family get him help?

This is an interview with his dad...Ker-Lick

...some family eh? Says it all.

You know what? I think he is just being strong for the family and brushing things aside, he could have shown a little emotion though... And the shameless plugging of his company shouldnt have happened.. But who knows what is going on in his head eh? People grieve in different ways.... His Mom is the sensitive one I hope this doesnt kill her because she really loved Michael......

I don't know how you could defend that man

Im not defending him at all just playing devil's advocate...

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Originally posted by WILDER X:

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They were all yes men collecting pay checks... My worry is why the family didnt intervene but I fear he may have alienated himself....

I agree.
But you would think the family would keep trying. when you want to self distruct is hard to stop someone.
He's a peace now bless him.
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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

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Originally posted by WILDER X:

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I think his father is at the root of most of MJ's issues if his auto-biog and various interviews are anything to go by. Joe Jackson has no emotions....and is driven by the mighty $...MJ has claimed he was whipped and abused in many other ways by the man...hardly the right person to be paying tribute to him imo.

I am by no means MJ's biggest fan, yet feel he deserved better from his own father. It is a tragically early and bizarre death, I only hope he finds in death the peace that eluded him in life.

I agree.
It's a shame no one stood up to michael and tryed to help him.
They shouldn't of let him have his own way all the time.
He was mentally ill.

They were all yes men collecting pay checks... My worry is why the family didnt intervene but I fear he may have alienated himself....

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Originally posted by Templetonpeck:

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

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Originally posted by Templetonpeck:

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

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Originally posted by Giggles:

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Originally posted by demonickitten:
Its a shame,why didnt his family get him help?

This is an interview with his dad...Ker-Lick

...some family eh? Says it all.

You know what? I think he is just being strong for the family and brushing things aside, he could have shown a little emotion though... And the shameless plugging of his company shouldnt have happened.. But who knows what is going on in his head eh? People grieve in different ways.... His Mom is the sensitive one I hope this doesnt kill her because she really loved Michael......

I don't know how you could defend that man

Im not defending him at all just playing devil's advocate...

why?

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Originally posted by CaptVimes:

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

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Originally posted by WILDER X:

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I think his father is at the root of most of MJ's issues if his auto-biog and various interviews are anything to go by. Joe Jackson has no emotions....and is driven by the mighty $...MJ has claimed he was whipped and abused in many other ways by the man...hardly the right person to be paying tribute to him imo.

I am by no means MJ's biggest fan, yet feel he deserved better from his own father. It is a tragically early and bizarre death, I only hope he finds in death the peace that eluded him in life.

I agree.
It's a shame no one stood up to michael and tryed to help him.
They shouldn't of let him have his own way all the time.
He was mentally ill.

They were all yes men collecting pay checks... My worry is why the family didnt intervene but I fear he may have alienated himself....

I read that they were forcing him to see a detox doctor when he arrived in England so it would seem they were doing something.

There seem to be an awful lot of suspicious goings on and a lot of people standing to lose a lot of money if he couldnt perform...I am not usually one for conspiracy theories but.

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Originally posted by Templetonpeck:
PCE go look up the dad on the net, you won't be too keen on him when you do, if you're a jacko fan

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

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Originally posted by CaptVimes:

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

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Originally posted by WILDER X:

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I think his father is at the root of most of MJ's issues if his auto-biog and various interviews are anything to go by. Joe Jackson has no emotions....and is driven by the mighty $...MJ has claimed he was whipped and abused in many other ways by the man...hardly the right person to be paying tribute to him imo.

I am by no means MJ's biggest fan, yet feel he deserved better from his own father. It is a tragically early and bizarre death, I only hope he finds in death the peace that eluded him in life.

I agree.
It's a shame no one stood up to michael and tryed to help him.
They shouldn't of let him have his own way all the time.
He was mentally ill.

They were all yes men collecting pay checks... My worry is why the family didnt intervene but I fear he may have alienated himself....

I read that they were forcing him to see a detox doctor when he arrived in England so it would seem they were doing something.

There seem to be an awful lot of suspicious goings on and a lot of people standing to lose a lot of money if he couldnt perform...I am not usually one for conspiracy theories but.

Hun im not one for theories as well but there is a whole lot of shadyness going on I hope the investigations uncovers alot...

Apparently the Doctor(hired by the organisers of the concerts) who was with him at the time of his death was uncertified... Why would they allow an uncertified Doctor near Michael?

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Originally posted by Demantoid:
That's dreadful... where were his family to allow him to get into such a state?

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Originally posted by Demantoid:
That's dreadful... where were his family to allow him to get into such a state?

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Originally posted by Templetonpeck:

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

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Originally posted by CaptVimes:

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

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Originally posted by WILDER X:

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I think his father is at the root of most of MJ's issues if his auto-biog and various interviews are anything to go by. Joe Jackson has no emotions....and is driven by the mighty $...MJ has claimed he was whipped and abused in many other ways by the man...hardly the right person to be paying tribute to him imo.

I am by no means MJ's biggest fan, yet feel he deserved better from his own father. It is a tragically early and bizarre death, I only hope he finds in death the peace that eluded him in life.

I agree.
It's a shame no one stood up to michael and tryed to help him.
They shouldn't of let him have his own way all the time.
He was mentally ill.

They were all yes men collecting pay checks... My worry is why the family didnt intervene but I fear he may have alienated himself....

I read that they were forcing him to see a detox doctor when he arrived in England so it would seem they were doing something.

There seem to be an awful lot of suspicious goings on and a lot of people standing to lose a lot of money if he couldnt perform...I am not usually one for conspiracy theories but.

Hun im not one for theories as well but there is a whole lot of shadyness going on I hope the investigations uncovers alot...

Apparently the Doctor(hired by the organisers of the concerts) who was with him at the time of his death was uncertified... Why would they allow an uncertified Doctor near Michael?

I don't think he was uncertified. He seemed t have been virtually bankrupt alright, but he shut his practice to go on Jacksons tour payroll.

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

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Originally posted by CaptVimes:

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

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Originally posted by WILDER X:

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I think his father is at the root of most of MJ's issues if his auto-biog and various interviews are anything to go by. Joe Jackson has no emotions....and is driven by the mighty $...MJ has claimed he was whipped and abused in many other ways by the man...hardly the right person to be paying tribute to him imo.

I am by no means MJ's biggest fan, yet feel he deserved better from his own father. It is a tragically early and bizarre death, I only hope he finds in death the peace that eluded him in life.

I agree.
It's a shame no one stood up to michael and tryed to help him.
They shouldn't of let him have his own way all the time.
He was mentally ill.

They were all yes men collecting pay checks... My worry is why the family didnt intervene but I fear he may have alienated himself....

I read that they were forcing him to see a detox doctor when he arrived in England so it would seem they were doing something.

There seem to be an awful lot of suspicious goings on and a lot of people standing to lose a lot of money if he couldnt perform...I am not usually one for conspiracy theories but.

Hun im not one for theories as well but there is a whole lot of shadyness going on I hope the investigations uncovers alot...

Apparently the Doctor(hired by the organisers of the concerts) who was with him at the time of his death was uncertified... Why would they allow an uncertified Doctor near Michael?

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

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Originally posted by Demantoid:
That's dreadful... where were his family to allow him to get into such a state?

Im wondering about that and these his new "close" friends all showing the faces in interviews, where were they? If I see my friend in destroying themselves I would intervene... Hollywood is a weird place....

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Originally posted by Karma_:

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Originally posted by demonickitten:

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Originally posted by Karma_:
8.5 stone and 5ft 10 - and this was the dude supposedly at the O2 press conference? Meh.

I said at the time that was a lookylikey...body shape was all wrong ..but did they listen? Double meh.

I said it too And they reckon that the voice you heard at the O2 was his 'real' speaking voice, and for the last 150 years the speaking voice we've heard was for the cameras

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Originally posted by WILDER X:
In this country no way would a doctor perscribe all those meds.
Even on antidepressants you have to have councilling.

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

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Originally posted by Demantoid:
That's dreadful... where were his family to allow him to get into such a state?

Im wondering about that and these his new "close" friends all showing the faces in interviews, where were they? If I see my friend in destroying themselves I would intervene... Hollywood is a weird place....

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Originally posted by WILDER X:
In this country no way would a doctor perscribe all those meds.
Even on antidepressants you have to have councilling.

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Originally posted by The Secretary:

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Originally posted by longcat:
The autopsy proved MJ was a liar. He always claimed he only had plastic surgery once on his nose.

Nobody ever believed that, surely?

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
Its on the popular blogsites (the same one that ist broke the news of MJ's death) now that he is uncertified.....

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Originally posted by droopydrawers:
why are people boycotting the sun ? op said this was source.

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

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Originally posted by WILDER X:
In this country no way would a doctor perscribe all those meds.
Even on antidepressants you have to have councilling.

Very scary cocktail of drugs, I thought the stars had the best when it came to medical care I wonder which human being in their right senses prescribed all that to him .... Apparently their Lawyer is going to be naming names in the near future. Those Hollywood drug pushers with stethoscopes need to be punished...

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Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:

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Originally posted by droopydrawers:
why are people boycotting the sun ? op said this was source.

ask just about anyone in liverpool. it was after the sun printed that liverpool fans were robbing the dead and dying during the hillsborough disaster and blamed them for it happening. many have been boycotting it ever since.

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Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

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Originally posted by demonickitten:

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
Why are they leaking this out why? Let the man be gosh ...

To sell papers.

Its sick.. They have also leaked out photos of his kids my God havnt they learnt anything? This is a private issue for the family alone not for the public some of which hated him to see...

the pictures of his eldest two children was online quite some time ago.



squiggle, i realy hope the same too, they would be much better off with their mother, there was plenty of evidence to suggest that joe was not an ideal parent when it came to his own childrens upbringing, let alone the fact that bot him and his wife are realy too old to be taking parental responsability for two, soon to be teenage, children.