http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26492748
This seems incredibly worrying â off the radar since 18.40 (our time) on Friday and no news thus far.
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That's awful.
You simply can't imagine something of that size and carrying that amount of human life can simply disappear.
How dreadful for the families waiting for news.
Terribly sad
This is awful
And why we all inwardly cheer when the plane we're on lands safely
Two oil slicks spotted and they think someone boarded with a stolen passport, its so very sad
Originally Posted by Saint:
This is awful
And why we all inwardly cheer when the plane we're on lands safely
We do don't we? I always want to break out into a round of applause.
I used to be completely blase about flying but Mr woo is always like 'OMG - how amazing is it that all this weight takes off and flies through the air'.
I never think that deeply about things but after years of hearing it I start thinking like that too.
It's the same with cross channel ferries - we watch all the cars, coaches, lorries etc. piling onto the decks and Mr Woo says 'isn't it amazing how these things stay afloat'.
I really wish he didn't say those things ...........I don't want to think about it.
Awful news. It's emergency locator has been detected in the sea so it looks likely that the plane is in the water.
These kind of stories scare the bejesus out of me. I'm a very nervous flier as it is and crashing into the ocean is my worst fear. I feel so awful for those people on board and how scared they must have been in the few minutes before the impact. So sad
Soozy, my youngest thinks too much about that kind of thing too. Last time we were on a plane he said look how high up we are, if those engines stopped working we'd just drop for ages then BANG into the ground and we'd all be dead. I almost burst into tears when he said it, because it's usually what I'm trying not to think about for the entire trip.
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Two oil slicks spotted and they think someone boarded with a stolen passport, its so very sad
It's the passengers with the stolen passports that bothers me.
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Two oil slicks spotted and they think someone boarded with a stolen passport, its so very sad
It's the passengers with the stolen passports that bothers me.
investigating two passports now
Originally Posted by Ells:
Soozy, my youngest thinks too much about that kind of thing too. Last time we were on a plane he said look how high up we are, if those engines stopped working we'd just drop for ages then BANG into the ground and we'd all be dead. I almost burst into tears when he said it, because it's usually what I'm trying not to think about for the entire trip.
I may be corrected here by people with more engineering knowledge but if the engines stop working a plane can glide on to make a landing. They train for gliding in for sea landings as well. It won't just drop out of the sky just like that unless it explodes in the air and breaks apart, in which case you wouldn't know anything about it as it falls as you'd probably be a gonna when it first explodes.. so maybe that is some comfort? 
Originally Posted by Mount Olympus *Olly*:
Originally Posted by Ells:
Soozy, my youngest thinks too much about that kind of thing too. Last time we were on a plane he said look how high up we are, if those engines stopped working we'd just drop for ages then BANG into the ground and we'd all be dead. I almost burst into tears when he said it, because it's usually what I'm trying not to think about for the entire trip.
I may be corrected here by people with more engineering knowledge but if the engines stop working a plane can glide on to make a landing. They train for gliding in for sea landings as well. It won't just drop out of the sky just like that unless it explodes in the air and breaks apart, in which case you wouldn't know anything about it as it falls as you'd probably be a gonna when it first explodes.. so maybe that is some comfort?
Not really thanks
A few years ago we were delayed for 12 hours on a flight home from Cyprus. Once we'd finally boarded the pilot went into great detail informing us of a faulty valve or sprocket or something that they'd had to replace on the wing. Apparently they'd had one flown in and it'd been fitted and we were good to go. As far as I'm concerned - I really didn't need to know far TMI for my liking.
I was waiting at Schiphol airport to fly to Nigeria. A plane was waiting for us when one of my husband's colleagues jumped up and shouted 'DC 10, they crash'. Oh how wonderful (not). I had another stiff drink, but worrid all the way to Kano.
Originally Posted by Mount Olympus *Olly*:
Originally Posted by Ells:
Soozy, my youngest thinks too much about that kind of thing too. Last time we were on a plane he said look how high up we are, if those engines stopped working we'd just drop for ages then BANG into the ground and we'd all be dead. I almost burst into tears when he said it, because it's usually what I'm trying not to think about for the entire trip.
I may be corrected here by people with more engineering knowledge but if the engines stop working a plane can glide on to make a landing. They train for gliding in for sea landings as well. It won't just drop out of the sky just like that unless it explodes in the air and breaks apart, in which case you wouldn't know anything about it as it falls as you'd probably be a gonna when it first explodes.. so maybe that is some comfort?
Olly there's no talking sense to me when it comes to flying. I think up all the worst case scenarios and every bump is just the start of something awful about to happen so there's no comforting me with rational thoughts at all!!
I think I would most likely take a heart attack and die before impact.
oh well . .. not that I can get on a plane nowadays but that is not because I am scared of flying it's cos my agoraphobia means I have to be able to exit asap if I start to feel an anxiety attack coming on and a plane is not a good place to be when feeling like that 
In the past, before I had all this, I have had some pretty hairy? [is that the right word?] flights and a good few have involved the passengers clapping upon final touchdown after several failed attempts. . two of the funniest was coming in to land at Jersey airport and having to pull up last minute as a cow had wandered onto the runway.. another was flying into Waterford in thick fog and the captain making 3 attempts to land and pulling up at the last minute each time, then giving up altogether and landing in Dublin instead.. also had a couple of pretty dodgy approaches into Athens airport with steep banking involved and plane almost on it's side and rising up and down in strong winds and then wings tips tipping up and down too on an approach to Heathrow as plane was blown side to side and up and down in a gale and couldn't straighten up until the last minute.... bit bumpy on landings but got there in the end... still didn't scare me off flying tho.. .not helping here am I?
Tapes up ollys mouth
I think Lt"s the typing you have to worry about!
Originally Posted by Mount Olympus *Olly*:
oh well . .. not that I can get on a plane nowadays but that is not because I am scared of flying it's cos my agoraphobia means I have to be able to exit asap if I start to feel an anxiety attack coming on and a plane is not a good place to be when feeling like that
In the past, before I had all this, I have had some pretty hairy? [is that the right word?] flights and a good few have involved the passengers clapping upon final touchdown after several failed attempts. . two of the funniest was coming in to land at Jersey airport and having to pull up last minute as a cow had wandered onto the runway.. another was flying into Waterford in thick fog and the captain making 3 attempts to land and pulling up at the last minute each time, then giving up altogether and landing in Dublin instead.. also had a couple of pretty dodgy approaches into Athens airport with steep banking involved and plane almost on it's side and rising up and down in strong winds and then wings tips tipping up and down too on an approach to Heathrow as plane was blown side to side and up and down in a gale and couldn't straighten up until the last minute.... bit bumpy on landings but got there in the end... still didn't scare me off flying tho.. .not helping here am I?
Just a few weeks ago â during the last bad storm I heard an instance of a pilot being given a round of applause after landing a âdivertedâ flight in high winds. So even though most of the passengers now faced an annoying coach transfer to their expected destination they were clearly incredibly grateful to be back on terraferma in one piece!
We were travelling back to Newcastle from Toronto
I had no idea we'd diverted to Montreal's Mirebel airport "due to a problem with the plane".
We were all shocked and had to wait a few hours until another was found!!!
Don't start me off! Mrs Jer flies a few times a year, and I remain stressed out on Flight tracker until I know she is safely landed!
Originally Posted by Aimee:
Tapes up ollys mouth
I forgot about a trip back from Italy where the turbulence was so bad the plane was dropping hundreds of feet at a time with it and everyone around us was throwing up badly. . it was the longest roller coaster ride ever! My mates and I were helping the hostesses by passing the full sick bags to them in the aisles, as there were so many and they were trying to reach over vomiting passengers to collect them
Should I shut up now? 
Yes
okey dokey
Originally Posted by Mount Olympus *Olly*:
Originally Posted by Aimee:
Tapes up ollys mouth
I forgot about a trip back from Italy where the turbulence was so bad the plane was dropping hundreds of feet at a time with it and everyone around us was throwing up badly. . it was the longest roller coaster ride ever! My mates and I were helping the hostesses by passing the full sick bags to them in the aisles, as there were so many and they were trying to reach over vomiting passengers to collect them
Should I shut up now?
Olly I've had some horrendous flying experiences. But I will still get back on them, because they are a quick means to an end.
Back on topic, the news is saying that at least two passengers were flying with false passports, but the tickets they flew with were bought together.
They weren't even checked by security, because interpol had at least one of them flagged as being stolen!
News at 10 on radio 2 have said that they have spotted some debris, but too early to say if it is that of the missing plane.
If they know the passports were false why were they allowed to board??
The only time you need to worry is when the crew look terrified (and scream) and refuse to get out of their own seats to assist the passengers.... as told to my son by his own flight attendant who'd done just that on a flight to New York!
Personally I'd put all hysterical passengers on one plane together. They could freak out to their heart's content and leave the rest of us in peace 
This Malaysia flight sounds ominous. Poor people
Originally Posted by liverbird:
If they know the passports were false why were they allowed to board??
Seems that although Interpol had them on their database, the info hadn't been circulated.
Malaysia's civil aviation chief has said the fate of a missing Malaysia Airlines
jet remains "a mystery".
Similar story on the Sky News web page:
Still no signs of the wreckage and the families are still living in hope of the plane being found somewhere safe as the mobiles of those on board are ringing and not going straight to voicemail.
Originally Posted by Ells:
Still no signs of the wreckage and the families are still living in hope of the plane being found somewhere safe as the mobiles of those on board are ringing and not going straight to voicemail.
How strange. If only...
from the BBC website
When was the last contact made?
Flight MH370 departed from Kuala Lumpur International Airport at 00:41 on Saturday (16:41 GMT Friday), and was due to arrive in Beijing at 06:30. Air traffic controllers lost contact at 01:30.
At a time as yet undisclosed, a relative reportedly managed to call one of the passengers, who was carrying a Singapore phone. Malaysia Airlines has repeatedly tried to call the same number but no ringtone has been heard.
Has to have gone to the island surely. What other explanation could there be for it completely vanishing?
