I actually agree with you Señora . I find both Mike and Ashley both pathetic and creepy ! And I find Julie's innuendo's far more unpalatable than Rhian and Dannica's flirting !

I wholeheartedly disagree with the boys stance.

They knew the girls had partners yet allowed the flirting to lead them on.

As Lorenzo said - they should recognise that and adjust their behaviour accordingly.

 

I wholeheartedly disagree with the girls.

They have partners yet Rhain got into another man's single bed after having just met him.

Danica has gone beyond flirting over and over, blatantly giving the come on to the guys while her partner watches on TV.

 

Look at Martin's behaviour ... the behaviour of a mature guy with strong marriage and children.

Puts them all to shame

I find myself agreeing with both of you Senora and Baz. Last night I saw a bit of that Jersey Shore. Worra a loada cobblers it is, and it is just all about sex, and who is humping who, and that "Sitch" was leading a girl up the stairs with another bloke, and it left nothing to the imagination. He is a proper male whore, and yet he calls Danika fake. 

I don't condone what she does, but,as was the case with Jasmine, lots of black pots and kettles spring to mind.

Ashley is another one. I detest him, he can't even talk properly, and by the sound of Julians bedtime story, he can't even eat properly. He thinks he is entitled to women falling at his feet, and that it is a privilage for them to do so.

I agree with you too Senora. I dont like this, its alright for the boys and not the girls, thing. I dont have a problem with Danica, maybe if she had kids i would feel differently, but she hasnt. Poor Rhian looks almost scared of Ashley now, imo. Wish someone would pull him to one side and tell him to back off. There is something not quite right with that lad, cant put my finger on it tho. Harvey isnt helping at all. Rhian just looks miserable now, its a shame her time in the house has been spoilt by it all.

Thankyou Senora for putting into words all I've been struggling to say.

Some forums are scary the awful things people are coming out with.

 

BB owe a duty of care to Rhain and Danica .but I think they have helped to ratchet this  situation up. 

Agree with every word Senora.

 

And if this task isn't set up to further isolate I'm John Travolta.

 

Really hating this task.

I agree Velvet .... It's a total set up !

I feel really sorry for Rhian, I reckon she'll be the one to go . Noticed on BBBOTS last night Judi whasserface was quite scathing about her and it fell to Emma to point out that she had made it pretty clear to Ashley that nothing was going to happen romantically and it was actually him that needed to change his behaviour rather than her . It is uncomfortable viewing .

I cant stand any of them, the girls are just as bad as the boys.

I have nothing against what any of them do for a living, that's their choice and if men are out there that want to be fleeced, well more fool them i say. There is so many reality programmes out there trying to out-do each other ie; Jersey Shore, TOWIE, Geordie Shore... Mike has made his fame from it AND his money.

What i cannot abide is the BB manipulation that allows, so called, mature adults to get away with intimidation. Rhian and Danica are no angels, lets remember Danica telling Rhian they had to step up their game and get in with the boys before nominations took place. They dont deserve to be picked on and ostracized though!

I agree that's why this task is making me  It is so set up to attack Rhian/Danica.On some forums they are now questioning Danica's clothes FFS!

What Julie did with the Banana was disgusting,if Danica /Rhian did the same there would have been all hell to play for .

Rhian has told that sex pest the score and still he confronts her daily.As for the females on BBBOTS shame on them .

Agreed Erin, it's disgraceful. 

Why they allowed the housemates themselves to be in charge of this task is beyond me. They must have known they are not mature enough to play the game fairly. Allowing Ashley and Harvey the right to BB in the diary room fgs! they had to know it would be bad for the girls.

I completely agree. Just because the two girls don't fancy the lads they are wrong!  How pathetic.  They both need to grow up and leave Rhian and Danica alone if they can't take rejection. Julie & co are not helping and I think Julie is horrible. Nominating the two girls because the poor lads feel they are being played when they have both been told there's no chance!  I hope Situ or Sam leave on Wednesday so the house gets the message that the viewers do not support this awful bullying!

I think it's disgusting allowing Ashley to question her like that !!!

yup. The whole thing is rotten.

The DR is meant to be the one room you can go and speak to BB inconfidence

Bang out of order

Awful Ashley questioning Rhian like that.  What part of NO, does he not understand! I see Princey has found a voice 

Danicas teddy has been removed for the duration.The Gods instructed Sam to take various item like the tea/sugar/food from the fridge and Danica's teddy.

I cant stand the whole shabang....I think Channel 5 are a sleazy channel compared to Channel 4,who got things wrong too, but this whole casting and no doubt the editing has featured the young ones and their pathetic shenanigins.I dont like the girls or the boys.

 

 

I agree ONE HUNDRED percent Senora! It's been bugging me for days. 

 

I also agree with Amythist, I think the way C5 has handled the editing/narration is disgusting! 

 

It slightly depresses me that they are obviously aiming at a younger audience, and THIS is what they think is an appropriate message to send to young girls (and boys come to that). 

I kinda agree with the fact that the girls seems to be getting the worst of it but not as vehemently as some because of that ^^^^^  they even shook pinkies on it. .and this was after days of Rhian saying Ashley was getting to her..

 

Also I don't know if I am going mad or not but I swear those girls were single when they went in the house. . and more recently someone was saying Rhian didn't have a fella.. or maybe I was dreaming it..

 

I do think it is unfair it's all coming down on them.. the boys are awful too.. but I do think they have occasionally given mixed signals when they knew the boys would take things as an  'oooh maybe they are interested' sign.. in the outside world any sane girl stays well away from giving flirty signals with any bloke she knows is interested in a bit more than just friendship not going nowhere flirtiness.. . .well in my world they do/did. .those that don't get the prick teaser label cos that's what it is if you are going too far with an admirer when you have no intention of following up and you know you are giving someone false hope..  

 

Also with lack of LF I have to take the little info we get an,d with quite a lot of different HM's telling them to be careful about giving mixed signals to the lads with their bed hopping etc,  I am inclined to think they are playing a silly game that backfired on them despite warnings..  and by the same token both boys have been told to back off too but ignored that as well..

 

Live Feed would show the reality of it all. .bits and bobs and snippets of convo's of others talking about it is all we have to go on..  in fact it makes my opinion above a load of rubbish   cos it is based on not a lot really

I am so relieved at this thread..    the girl & I have been gobsmacked at the attitudes of the other housemates, young, older, male, female, towards the girls & then the outrage from the boys when told "no thanks".

 

I could go off on one about flirting, but I think its all been said.   Just cos you flirt doesn't mean you are leading someone on.     Just cos a boy wants to shag you, doesn't mean you have to let him!

 

 

A few months ago there were a series of adverts on the telly, aimed at young lads, trying to get the message through to them about what constitutes rape, & how interaction with a girl does not entitle them to sex...    this BB has just undermined the whole campaign!

 

 

 

Anyways..     I've pretty much decided now..    Danica for the win!   don't mind if its Rhian either.

 

I see where you are coming from Ditty with educating boys etc. .but I also think girls need the same too ..ie cut back if a boy has expressed an interest so he gets the message you aren't and the same for a boy if he isn't interested in a girl that is interested in him ..  he should cut back too... there are different levels and types of flirting .. after all if someone is interested how else do they show it if not thru subtle flirting signals?

 

it's not cut and dried for either side. . a lot of grey areas.. both boys and girls need to take responsibility for their actions if they cross the line. .albeit a very blurred one and hard to find sometimes.. .. 

 

I know what I am trying to say but suspect it is coming over wrong as usual

 

I do know I don't want anyone to win.. .dreadful CBB this time even Julian has not come up to expectation..   

Well said Senora et al.....I've been saying much the same in other threads, hadn't seen this one! I'm disgusted by the attitudes towards these women, and, even if they have flirted to get others on side, so what, isn't that what most of them do one way or another? Ah, but if it's a guy or an older person doing it, then they're, at worst, 'game-playing', but if it's a good looking woman then they're apparently a "wh*re, sl*g, sl*t" etc. 

I know what you are saying..   but I don't actually think the lines are blurred in this instance.    They have categorically told them no.  

 

Flirting is flirting..  and flirting, having explained that actually it ain't happening, is just that..  flirting.

 

the boys are so not confused at all.    they know the score, they just don't like it.   And they feel they are entitled to feel hard done by because they got a knock back...  or to not actually have to accept the knock back.

 

It stinks.

 

Even if we say, for arguments sake, the girls ARE leading them on..     this was discussed & decided upon by the boys (with the help of other HMs),  They should then make a decision..    accept the "leading on" for what it is, & have a laugh, or if they find it unacceptable cool it with the girls, preferably whilst still keeping it civil.

 

I agree Super . If the men are thinking with their trousers instead of their brains , more fool them ... And they are defo fools !

oops..  you slipped in there Soops..   

 

I was replying to Olls 

I always thought a "No" and/or telling someone straight that you weren't interested in anything but friendship was sufficient ? Trouble is neither of those guys would take no for an answer, and when it finally got through to their thick skulls that the girls weren't interested in them that way they started a hate campaign against them.

Well we have Samantha with her apron and dusters, all is not lost 

Slipped in huh? Are you flirting with me?

Absolutely, keep them women in aprons, tied to the kitchen sink, making wholesome food for the men, tending their needs and behaving and dressing demurely and all will indeed, again be well with the world!

maybe  *goes for a nipple tweak*

 

 

Yeah I hear ya Ditts which is why I also agree the guys are out of order...

 

but I do have to hold my hands up and be honest and say those types of girls are not ones I'd want to be around nor a good example of the type of girls I'd want as a role model for younger girls. .they cheapen it a tad... I can't verbalise what I mean exactly. .it's the way they go about their flirting and yes I have to admit my opinions also include a distaste for their occupations too... the get a fast buck with my body type of girl. . I just have no respect for that nor ones that target rich men only for what they can get.. gold diggers are the pits. .but I am a tad biased about them sort cos of personal stuff so not as keen to live and let live where that type is concerned. .

You've pulled!

Oh, and that, I now believe, was cleverly edited in the hls to make it look something it wasn't as I saw something somewhere or other where she said something like oh you must be cold

Gawd..  that sounds like my son talking!!!

 

 

(I swear I do not know where he's got his attitude from -  the girl & I are in the process of beating it out of him )

Well sed . . . i mean how horrid a thought

yes that was pretty bad. . it was led and fed by Harvey  too..he gee'd them up a lot..

 

but I can't say hopping back into their beds after saying we're not interested helped matters especially having seen that the boy's didn't seem to get the message..

That, Olly, imo, is precisely why there's so much hatred towards them. Unlike some, at least you're honest about it!

Amen