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Did any of you see this story yesterday?

 

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Mia Farrow: Son With Allen 'Possibly' Sinatra's

The actress hints that her 25-year-old son Ronan may have been fathered by her ex-husband and not the film director Woody Allen.

 

I'm really not sure which one it could be?

 

*disclaimer* in fairness it could just be that he got all of his mothers genes and none at all from Mr Allen.

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When Mia Farrow and Woody Allen ended their relationship, there was a long bitter legal battle for the custody of Ronan and their 2 adopted children. It was much in the news at the time. Much was made of Allen's relationship with Soon-Yi, the adopted daughter of Mia Farrow and Andre Previn. Later Allen married her and they are still together.

 

If Mia Farrow believed that Ronan's father was Frank Sinatra, why didn't she say that at the time as if that was proved, Allen would have lost any chance of seeing Allen. As it was, Farrow did get custody, and Allen lost the right to visit Ronan other than under supervision.

 

Why had Farrow waited all these years to say this

El Loro
Originally Posted by El Loro:

When Mia Farrow and Woody Allen ended their relationship, there was a long bitter legal battle for the custody of Ronan and their 2 adopted children. It was much in the news at the time. Much was made of Allen's relationship with Soon-Yi, the adopted daughter of Mia Farrow and Andre Previn. Later Allen married her and they are still together.

 

If Mia Farrow believed that Ronan's father was Frank Sinatra, why didn't she say that at the time as if that was proved, Allen would have lost any chance of seeing Allen. As it was, Farrow did get custody, and Allen lost the right to visit Ronan other than under supervision.

 

Why had Farrow waited all these years to say this

Good point El Loro... it doesn't make sense. 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
This story is full of evil images which are quite upsetting. It's rather like the distressing concept of David Mitchell mauling the delightful Victoria Coren.

Joe, that made me snort to the point Mr C enquired what was up, I dont think he would get it.

 

ETA.  On the flip side, I do have a crush on David Mitchell but more from a motherly point of view.

Cinds

I too read the story yesterday and immediately saw the likeness between him and Frank, one of my all time favourite singers since childhood and so glad I had the opportunity of seeing him in Concert in London and just 3 rows away from him, totally fantastic and unforgettable night for me. Why Mia's released this now only she knows why, everyone else who's come across the info on the web/news will forget in a few days time but for those concerned it's real life situation and hopefully a happy one. I also read Mia and he were accepted into the Sinatra family which is positive news.

Yellow Rose
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:

I too read the story yesterday and immediately saw the likeness between him and Frank, one of my all time favourite singers since childhood and so glad I had the opportunity of seeing him in Concert in London and just 3 rows away from him, totally fantastic and unforgettable night for me. Why Mia's released this now only she knows why, everyone else who's come across the info on the web/news will forget in a few days time but for those concerned it's real life situation and hopefully a happy one. I also read Mia and he were accepted into the Sinatra family which is positive news.

Wow - you're so lucky Yellow Rose. I would've LOVED to see Frank Sinatra perform. An absolute legend.

 

B.t.w. now his widow Barbara is rubbishing the son idea. Mind you she wouldn't know? Frank always stayed close to his exes.

FM
Originally Posted by Videostar:

So is Mia Farrow openly admitting to being a slapper in her youth.?

Youth?

Ronan is 25: Mia was 42 when he was born (and Sinatra was 72...  )

 

Mia Farrow was married to Sinatra in her youth. She was 19 when they met, prompting the famous Dean Martin joke that he owned a bottle of Scotch older than her...

Eugene's Lair
Originally Posted by Roger the Alien (fka noseyrosie):
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:

I too read the story yesterday and immediately saw the likeness between him and Frank, one of my all time favourite singers since childhood and so glad I had the opportunity of seeing him in Concert in London and just 3 rows away from him, totally fantastic and unforgettable night for me. Why Mia's released this now only she knows why, everyone else who's come across the info on the web/news will forget in a few days time but for those concerned it's real life situation and hopefully a happy one. I also read Mia and he were accepted into the Sinatra family which is positive news.

Wow - you're so lucky Yellow Rose. I would've LOVED to see Frank Sinatra perform. An absolute legend.

 

B.t.w. now his widow Barbara is rubbishing the son idea. Mind you she wouldn't know? Frank always stayed close to his exes.

Rosie, so nice to see that you like me totally "got" the Frankie thing  the Master in my eyes having bought his albums, cd's from when I was young, watched the films he was in, and when I learnt he was in London I just had to go because I never thought I'd have the opportunity of hearing and seeing him Live. It was a magical, truly magical and unforgettable for me. I'm so glad I was born in the era that knew of him

Yellow Rose
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:
 

Rosie, so nice to see that you like me totally "got" the Frankie thing  the Master in my eyes having bought his albums, cd's from when I was young, watched the films he was in, and when I learnt he was in London I just had to go because I never thought I'd have the opportunity of hearing and seeing him Live. It was a magical, truly magical and unforgettable for me. I'm so glad I was born in the era that knew of him

Amazing you saw him sing only three rows away. I'm so jealous Yellow Rose 

Love the way Sinatra "acted" a song and brought out the meaning of the words. Fascinated by his life too - what a man.

FM

Rosie I so wish you'd had the opportunity I had to see him as you would have appreciated and enjoyed him as much as I did.  There were times in the Concert I felt I had to pinch myself that he was really only feet away from me instead of on a screen or a soundtrack after all those years of enjoying him through what I had access to.

He was exactly the same in personality on stage that night as I'd seen on tv many times with his cheeky boy and twinkly eyed humour.  With certain songs that night he had his usual props he was famous for, the cigarette, the trilby hat, at a bar singing a sad love song. Some ballads that were favourites made me misty eyed because of the perfection of his voice merging like another musical instrument with the wonderful orchestra backing him. When you say he acted a song I know what you mean. He always told a story through a song whether it was up tempo or a sad ballad, he experienced the story with honesty as if it was his own story...and some were...I can't remember the name now but one song was recorded just after his break up with Ava Gardener who he loved and I remember a documentary about how that recording affected him emotionally, and it came across in the recording, heartfelt. Apart from his own natural gift he lived in a time when there were talented lyricists who also deserve credit that allowed him choice of some memorable songs he recorded.  You're right, what a man, and what a gift to those of us who appreciated and enjoyed him, and what a colourful life he led.

Yellow Rose
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:

Rosie I so wish you'd had the opportunity I had to see him as you would have appreciated and enjoyed him as much as I did.  There were times in the Concert I felt I had to pinch myself that he was really only feet away from me instead of on a screen or a soundtrack after all those years of enjoying him through what I had access to.

He was exactly the same in personality on stage that night as I'd seen on tv many times with his cheeky boy and twinkly eyed humour.  With certain songs that night he had his usual props he was famous for, the cigarette, the trilby hat, at a bar singing a sad love song. Some ballads that were favourites made me misty eyed because of the perfection of his voice merging like another musical instrument with the wonderful orchestra backing him. When you say he acted a song I know what you mean. He always told a story through a song whether it was up tempo or a sad ballad, he experienced the story with honesty as if it was his own story...and some were...I can't remember the name now but one song was recorded just after his break up with Ava Gardener who he loved and I remember a documentary about how that recording affected him emotionally, and it came across in the recording, heartfelt. Apart from his own natural gift he lived in a time when there were talented lyricists who also deserve credit that allowed him choice of some memorable songs he recorded.  You're right, what a man, and what a gift to those of us who appreciated and enjoyed him, and what a colourful life he led.

 

And in spite of his rages (or so they said) he looked after Ava when she was  ill and paid her medical fees ..he led a colourful life ,but so do most folks but we are not that famous I loved him a legend and looked after everyone in his will ...Its online ...thanks for the info 

FM
Originally Posted by frodo:

And in spite of his rages (or so they said) he looked after Ava when she was  ill and paid her medical fees ..he led a colourful life ,but so do most folks but we are not that famous I loved him a legend and looked after everyone in his will ...Its online ...thanks for the info 

Really? Awww. He also paid for Judy Garland's funeral.

FM


After Frank died those who knew him well spoke of his generosity to others, and also his anonymous donations to people or children whose story he'd heard about.

I'm not absolutely sure this is the song he recorded after the break up from Ava. Even if it isn't for me it's one of many that illustrates the story telling as if it's his own story. Beautiful ballad.

 

Yellow Rose
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:
I'm not absolutely sure this is the song he recorded after the break up from Ava. Even if it isn't for me it's one of many that illustrates the story telling as if it's his own story. Beautiful ballad.

It's one of the songs from that period. It's from the album "In the Wee Small Hours", which is generally accepted to have been heavily influenced by the breakup: "perhaps the definitive musical evocation of loneliness", as one critic put it...

 

Eugene's Lair
Originally Posted by Roger the Alien (fka noseyrosie):

Thanks Yellow Rose... oh I love the way he sang that

 

One For My Baby - did he he record that after the break up?.. it rings a bell, maybe in a doucumentary I saw once

You could be right about that song as it was recorded after they broke up. I remember in one documentary there was a scene of him in the studio recording a song after the break up and his whole demeanour was one of sadness. The Producer talked about how Frank wasn't his usual jokey self and mentioned Ava. With Frank having around 50 years in the business with so many recordings it's really hard to be sure which recording was the Ava one, especially as whatever he sings, and however many times he sings it, he puts his heart into it. Like you said, an absolute legend

Yellow Rose
Originally Posted by Eugene's Lair:
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:
I'm not absolutely sure this is the song he recorded after the break up from Ava. Even if it isn't for me it's one of many that illustrates the story telling as if it's his own story. Beautiful ballad.

It's one of the songs from that period. It's from the album "In the Wee Small Hours", which is generally accepted to have been heavily influenced by the breakup: "perhaps the definitive musical evocation of loneliness", as one critic put it...

 

I bought that album Eugene and have been going through my music collection trying to find it but haven't yet, hmm, where is it. I've found a double CD called Frank Sinatra The Capitol Years that I forgot I had, there are 75 tracks! the song I Get Along Without You isn't on it but I have a lot of Frankie to enjoy

I agree with the critic, with certain lyrics and the way Frank performed them he could certainly draw out that emotion


Yellow Rose
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:
 

I bought that album Eugene and have been going through my music collection trying to find it but haven't yet, hmm, where is it. I've found a double CD called Frank Sinatra The Capitol Years that I forgot I had, there are 75 tracks! the song I Get Along Without You isn't on it but I have a lot of Frankie to enjoy

I agree with the critic, with certain lyrics and the way Frank performed them he could certainly draw out that emotion

I hope you find your copy of "In the Wee Small Hours" OK. It's not just my favourite Sinatra album, but one of my favourite albums full stop. Nelson Riddle's arrangements are beautifully understated, Sinatra's voice was aproaching his best and he was clearly drawing on a lot of emotional pain during the recordings.

As for your Capitol collection: you've only gone and reminded me of the gaps in my own collection...

Eugene's Lair
Originally Posted by Eugene's Lair:
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:
 

I bought that album Eugene and have been going through my music collection trying to find it but haven't yet, hmm, where is it. I've found a double CD called Frank Sinatra The Capitol Years that I forgot I had, there are 75 tracks! the song I Get Along Without You isn't on it but I have a lot of Frankie to enjoy

I agree with the critic, with certain lyrics and the way Frank performed them he could certainly draw out that emotion

I hope you find your copy of "In the Wee Small Hours" OK. It's not just my favourite Sinatra album, but one of my favourite albums full stop. Nelson Riddle's arrangements are beautifully understated, Sinatra's voice was aproaching his best and he was clearly drawing on a lot of emotional pain during the recordings.

As for your Capitol collection: you've only gone and reminded me of the gaps in my own collection...

Although Frank worked with other orchestras sometimes Nelson Riddle was always my favourite that he worked with, their blending was perfect It's frustrating I've not found it yet, if I don't find it soon I'm going to have to buy it online as that's the one I listened to most often.

 

When I read the titles of the tracks on the double CD I was reminded of so many I'd forgotten lol, if you do add it to your collection I'm sure you'll enjoy it

Yellow Rose

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